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Old Apr 20th 2010, 2:03 am
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My friend filed an I-129F to bring his fiance here from China. Even though she went to the interview for a K-1 visa in Guangzhou with over 100 pictures as proof of a valid relationship, she was denied for lack of evidence after a two minute interview. What's the best thing for her to do now, have the US fiance file another I-129F petition?

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My friend filed an I-129F to bring his fiance here from China. Even though she went to the interview for a K-1 visa in Guangzhou with over 100 pictures as proof of a valid relationship, she was denied for lack of evidence after a two minute interview. What's the best thing for her to do now, have the US fiance file another I-129F petition?

Thanks for your help.
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K1 can be refiled keeping in mind the issues of the denial. A proficient counsel will help you refile by overpowering the issues and objections raised in the denial. All this happens with strong documentation and presentation.

Good Luck!
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My friend filed an I-129F to bring his fiance here from China. Even though she went to the interview for a K-1 visa in Guangzhou with over 100 pictures as proof of a valid relationship, she was denied for lack of evidence after a two minute interview. What's the best thing for her to do now, have the US fiance file another I-129F petition?

Thanks for your help.
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Thanks. I am wondering, if the petition gets sent back to the US, the petitioner rebut an NOID and the petition remains valid, does the petitioner still need to file a new I-129F or can the old one be reactivated?


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Thanks. I am wondering, if the petition gets sent back to the US, the petitioner rebut an NOID and the petition remains valid, does the petitioner still need to file a new I-129F or can the old one be reactivated?
Comment: I am curious what Marc will have to say about your excellent question. By the way, Marc is the maven on situations such as yours.
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Thanks. I am wondering, if the petition gets sent back to the US, the petitioner rebut an NOID and the petition remains valid, does the petitioner still need to file a new I-129F or can the old one be reactivated?
IMO, you've got enough lingo to be dangerous to your friend.

They need a lawyer, preferably one with experience with China. Marc Ellis can be busy & difficult to reach, but his articles published on the NOID topic should be illuminating to your friend.
The China-specific 'Candle for Love' forum will have good information on this topic as well, and they may know a lawyer who specializes in China returns.
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IMO, you've got enough lingo to be dangerous to your friend.

They need a lawyer, preferably one with experience with China. Marc Ellis can be busy & difficult to reach, but his articles published on the NOID topic should be illuminating to your friend.
The China-specific 'Candle for Love' forum will have good information on this topic as well, and they may know a lawyer who specializes in China returns.
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Further comment: Ghuagzhou is quite problematical these days on K's.
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Adding to the good advice that is already posted... with just some thoughts.

I have also heard of Guangzhou being very sticky. So why not get married in China first? After all, wedding banquets are so important to Chinese family, so why not add to the 100 pictures and get some wedding photos?

I can guess reasons might be age gap, English abilities and so on. I have read about the USC using local reps / senators to help push things through Guangzhou. There are also some west coast firms that deal with petitions through Guangzhou.
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Adding to the good advice that is already posted... with just some thoughts.

I have also heard of Guangzhou being very sticky. So why not get married in China first? After all, wedding banquets are so important to Chinese family, so why not add to the 100 pictures and get some wedding photos?

I can guess reasons might be age gap, English abilities and so on. I have read about the USC using local reps / senators to help push things through Guangzhou. There are also some west coast firms that deal with petitions through Guangzhou.
You know that if they get married, they have to start all over with an Immigrant Visa, from scratch, right?

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Well as it sounds, they could be otherwise in limbo land for a long time, with the present situation...

It was just an idea, but I am sure that G/Z like to see Wedding banquet photos... Just it fits more from a cultural perspective.

I am sorry for the OPs friend.
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Was a 100 pictures the only evidence they provided?
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I think this is an interesting article.

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0323-ellis.shtm

As it would seem that OPs friend needs to reply to NOID, even if they do get married.

Anyway it would seem that splurging a few bucks on a lawyer could be a great idea!

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I think this is an interesting article.

http://www.ilw.com/articles/2006,0323-ellis.shtm

As it would seem that OPs friend needs to reply to NOID, even if they do get married.

Anyway it would seem that splurging a few bucks on a lawyer could be a great idea!
Maven Marc at his best. Interesting article.
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Age difference should not be a problem, my wife is 13 years younger than I.
They need to take more evidence than just photos, phone records, letters etc are good to use.
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Getting married does not, in an of itself, solve the problem of overcoming the consular officer's concern about the basis for the relationship.

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Well as it sounds, they could be otherwise in limbo land for a long time, with the present situation...

It was just an idea, but I am sure that G/Z like to see Wedding banquet photos... Just it fits more from a cultural perspective.

I am sorry for the OPs friend.
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