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Old Jul 16th 2008, 11:37 am
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So it turns out that my fiancee through crossed wires didnt file a I-864 :curse: and we havent filed a I-864W either. She thought we didnt need an I-864 because she thought i was self sponsoring because i had sufficient assets. (That end of things i basically left up to her) but it seems we may now be a form short either way.

If i do have enough money to self sponsor do i still need to have filed either the 864 or 864w?

I have assets of around $40k, which should be enough assuming the site is accurate, which says 125% for all sponsors and with 2 people is only $17.5k

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So it turns out that my fiancee through crossed wires didnt file a I-864 :curse: and we havent filed a I-864W either. She thought we didnt need an I-864 because she thought i was self sponsoring because i had sufficient assets. (That end of things i basically left up to her) but it seems we may now be a form short either way.

If i do have enough money to self sponsor do i still need to have filed either the 864 or 864w?

I have assets of around $40k, which should be enough assuming the site is accurate, which says 125% for all sponsors and with 2 people is only $17.5k
This must be for a K-1 visa, since you said "fiancee", correct?

The I-864 is not required for the K-1 visa. If anything, it will be an I-134 affidavit of support. However, if you have enough in assets, which $40K sounds like it might be enough, you can self sponsor.

What makes you now think that's not possible?

The I-864 won't be needed until you enter the USA, get married, and file for AOS.

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So it turns out that my fiancee through crossed wires didnt file a I-864 :curse: and we havent filed a I-864W either. She thought we didnt need an I-864 because she thought i was self sponsoring because i had sufficient assets. (That end of things i basically left up to her) but it seems we may now be a form short either way.

If i do have enough money to self sponsor do i still need to have filed either the 864 or 864w?

I have assets of around $40k, which should be enough assuming the site is accurate, which says 125% for all sponsors and with 2 people is only $17.5k
Hi:

What makes you think that $40K is more than $51K? Just curious.
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Default Re: I-864/I864W trouble

I have my interview next week so im probably just panicking a bit. I think filing all this stuff is quite possibly the most stressful experience i have ever had.

I thought i had to file either a 864 or an 864W or the 134 before the interview,
So the first 2 are for after were married and the last one is only if i need it?

Someone also told me that since the money i have is cash rather then income, that i might need more than the 125% to qualify?

Thanks again Noorah, you always know how to asuage my depraved panickings
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What makes you think that $40K is more than $51K? Just curious.
what does 51k have to do with it?
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I have my interview next week so im probably just panicking a bit. I think filing all this stuff is quite possibly the most stressful experience i have ever had.

I thought i had to file either a 864 or an 864W or the 134 before the interview,
So the first 2 are for after were married and the last one is only if i need it?

Someone also told me that since the money i have is cash rather then income, that i might need more than the 125% to qualify?

Thanks again Noorah, you always know how to asuage my depraved panickings
The I-864 is for your AOS inside the USA, correct.

If anything, you'll need an I-134 from your fiancee. Won't hurt to have it in hand at your interview, in case they don't accept your self-sponsorship.

The self-sponsoring amount is up to the consular officer, they can approve or disapprove any amount they want to.

You don't need to submit the affidavit of support before the interview, no. You will be asked for it (or for proof of your self-sponsorship) at the time of your interview.

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what does 51k have to do with it?
$17K x 3 = amount you would need in assets.

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what does 51k have to do with it?
Hi:

My apologies -- you gave the impression that you were talking about qualifying solely by assets rather than income.
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
$17K x 3 = amount you would need in assets.

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is this x3 because of self sponsorship or because of assets rather then income?
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Originally Posted by Folinskyinla
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My apologies -- you gave the impression that you were talking about qualifying solely by assets rather than income.
Thats correct yes, the 40k i have at the moment is cash in the bank rather then income or property etc


Should be ok though, i can get the rest from my parents

Thanks again guys!

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Default Re: I-864/I864W trouble

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is this x3 because of self sponsorship or because of assets rather then income?
Because of assets.
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Default Re: I-864/I864W trouble

Originally Posted by benzine87
Thats correct yes, the 40k i have at the moment is cash in the bank rather then income or property etc


Should be ok though, i can get the rest from my parents

Thanks again guys!
If you have $40K in cash sitting in your bank, that should work as self-sponsorship. Bring proof of how long you've had the funds in the bank (I'm guessing they won't like it if you only put that in there recently...)

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Default Re: I-864/I864W trouble

Originally Posted by benzine87
Thats correct yes, the 40k i have at the moment is cash in the bank rather then income or property etc


Should be ok though, i can get the rest from my parents

Thanks again guys!
What 'rest'?

Slow down, bud. It's going to be OK, really it is!

Your USC fiancee 'should' complete an I-134, copy or get transcripts of her last 3 years federal tax returns, a couple of recent paystubs (calender 2008) and be earning +$17500 gross.
This is the most conservative, vanilla way to go to a London K-1 interview.

Which part of that can she not do?

If all, most or even 'some', YOU can take evidence of your assets (cash or things that can become cash in 12 months or less). Cash deposits are obviously easiest. There is no stated magic number of $$ to show for a K-1 interview, but the amount you state has been sufficient in the past.
You can include a copy of your CV if you think it will show you as easily employable in the US in an over-the-poverty-level job.

You can't borrow the money from your parents.

The above is all from anecdotal evidence posted around the various groups. It may or may not be technically correct by way of the law, but it is how interviews typically go.

Your (then) wife WILL need all of the above named after you marry and are applying for your Green Card. THAT is form I-864. If she can't meet that one, there are other workarounds too.
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Originally Posted by Noorah101
$17K x 3 = amount you would need in assets.

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x3 will have nothing to do for a K-1 visa, other than a rough guide based off of the I-864 (which does allow for an asset formula).
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x3 will have nothing to do for a K-1 visa, other than a rough guide based off of the I-864 (which does allow for an asset formula).
I agree, was just showing him where the figure came from.
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