I-751 processing times in Vermont
Jun 1st 2003, 12:43 pm
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I-751 processing times in Vermont
I filed an I-751 petition at the Vermont ( Lack of) Service Center in April,
2002. I got my NOA about two weeks later extending my status for one year.
As has become apparent, I-751 applications are not moving at all right now,
I don't see any indication that I will be approved before my one year
extension is set to expire, which will be the end of July 2003.
As I understand it, I can get a further extension by going to my BCIS office
and get a further extension stamp. This I find mindboggling. By not
processing I-751 applications within 15 months (I filed my application 3
months before my conditional status was set to expire), BCIS is forcing ALL
I-751 applicants to have to appear in person at their local BCIS office
without an appointment. What a ridiculous waste of BCIS rersources, and time
and stress to applicants who have to waste the time to go simply because
BCIS is not making an effort to process I-751 applications in time. I have
no problem with the waiting time involved, but surely a letter from the
Vermont Service Center re-extending my conditional status would be a much
simpler solution. I guess that's too easy for the BCIS beaurocrats. The last
time I went to my local office without an appointment, travel time plus
wating time was 8 hours, and the actual time I spent at the counter talking
to an Information Services Officer was no more than 3 minutes. And I had to
use one of my holiday days from work to do it.
I wonder how many thousand visits to BCIS are going to happen due to this
particular backlog? I have written to my Senators office who basically told
me that they have contacted Vermont, and were told it will be 5 to 7 more
months to process my application and to cantact them again after that time
if that hasn't happened.
What good is a one year extension letter when they KNOW that applications
are really taking closer to 2 years to process?????? This is a make-work
project to generate unnecessary walk-in visits if you ask me. I can't think
of a much more frustrating way to spend a day than in a BCIS waiting room.
2002. I got my NOA about two weeks later extending my status for one year.
As has become apparent, I-751 applications are not moving at all right now,
I don't see any indication that I will be approved before my one year
extension is set to expire, which will be the end of July 2003.
As I understand it, I can get a further extension by going to my BCIS office
and get a further extension stamp. This I find mindboggling. By not
processing I-751 applications within 15 months (I filed my application 3
months before my conditional status was set to expire), BCIS is forcing ALL
I-751 applicants to have to appear in person at their local BCIS office
without an appointment. What a ridiculous waste of BCIS rersources, and time
and stress to applicants who have to waste the time to go simply because
BCIS is not making an effort to process I-751 applications in time. I have
no problem with the waiting time involved, but surely a letter from the
Vermont Service Center re-extending my conditional status would be a much
simpler solution. I guess that's too easy for the BCIS beaurocrats. The last
time I went to my local office without an appointment, travel time plus
wating time was 8 hours, and the actual time I spent at the counter talking
to an Information Services Officer was no more than 3 minutes. And I had to
use one of my holiday days from work to do it.
I wonder how many thousand visits to BCIS are going to happen due to this
particular backlog? I have written to my Senators office who basically told
me that they have contacted Vermont, and were told it will be 5 to 7 more
months to process my application and to cantact them again after that time
if that hasn't happened.
What good is a one year extension letter when they KNOW that applications
are really taking closer to 2 years to process?????? This is a make-work
project to generate unnecessary walk-in visits if you ask me. I can't think
of a much more frustrating way to spend a day than in a BCIS waiting room.
Jun 2nd 2003, 3:12 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
"Don" wrote in message news:...
> What good is a one year extension letter when they KNOW that applications
> are really taking closer to 2 years to process?????? This is a make-work
> project to generate unnecessary walk-in visits if you ask me. I can't think
> of a much more frustrating way to spend a day than in a BCIS waiting room.
I know what you mean and I'm concerned about the long wait as well.
My take on it? Well, my spouse will be filing the I-751 later this
year at the VSC(gasp!) and if I have one inkling that approval is
going to run close to TWO years, then I believe that my husband is
legally entitled to file for citizenship, even if the I-751 process
isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
I-751 is approved?
> What good is a one year extension letter when they KNOW that applications
> are really taking closer to 2 years to process?????? This is a make-work
> project to generate unnecessary walk-in visits if you ask me. I can't think
> of a much more frustrating way to spend a day than in a BCIS waiting room.
I know what you mean and I'm concerned about the long wait as well.
My take on it? Well, my spouse will be filing the I-751 later this
year at the VSC(gasp!) and if I have one inkling that approval is
going to run close to TWO years, then I believe that my husband is
legally entitled to file for citizenship, even if the I-751 process
isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
I-751 is approved?
Jun 2nd 2003, 4:12 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
"Omo" wrote ...
> isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
> 2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
> permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
> there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
> I-751 is approved?
No and the service centers take it into account. I've seen announcements
from CSC and VSC that they'll process the removal of conditions as part of
the naturalization application if necessary; I haven't seen the same thing
from the other offices but they probably do that.
So, file when you are eligible.
Andy.
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> isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
> 2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
> permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
> there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
> I-751 is approved?
No and the service centers take it into account. I've seen announcements
from CSC and VSC that they'll process the removal of conditions as part of
the naturalization application if necessary; I haven't seen the same thing
from the other offices but they probably do that.
So, file when you are eligible.
Andy.
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I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Jun 2nd 2003, 4:41 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
Since N-400 applications go to a different address in VSC than I-751, will the officer take out I-751 when he/she is getting ready to work on VSC. The latest info is 12-16 months wait on the forms. I wonder why I-751 is backlogged. It should not be the case. If you are ok then grant LPR, if in doubt then schedule an interview soon enough.
any inputs?
any inputs?
Jun 2nd 2003, 5:13 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
The reason that I-751s are so backed up is that there is little
justification for expending resources processing them. The person is a
permanent resident and they can get stamps if necessary to show that (albeit
with the overhead of a trip to the local INS office).
Andy.
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"SMO" wrote in message
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> Since N-400 applications go to a different address in VSC than I-751,
> will the officer take out I-751 when he/she is getting ready to work on
> VSC. The latest info is 12-16 months wait on the forms. I wonder why
> I-751 is backlogged. It should not be the case. If you are ok then grant
> LPR, if in doubt then schedule an interview soon enough.
> any inputs?
> --
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justification for expending resources processing them. The person is a
permanent resident and they can get stamps if necessary to show that (albeit
with the overhead of a trip to the local INS office).
Andy.
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I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
"SMO" wrote in message
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> Since N-400 applications go to a different address in VSC than I-751,
> will the officer take out I-751 when he/she is getting ready to work on
> VSC. The latest info is 12-16 months wait on the forms. I wonder why
> I-751 is backlogged. It should not be the case. If you are ok then grant
> LPR, if in doubt then schedule an interview soon enough.
> any inputs?
> --
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Jun 2nd 2003, 6:12 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
Originally posted by SMO
Since N-400 applications go to a different address in VSC than I-751, will the officer take out I-751 when he/she is getting ready to work on VSC. The latest info is 12-16 months wait on the forms. I wonder why I-751 is backlogged. It should not be the case. If you are ok then grant LPR, if in doubt then schedule an interview soon enough.
any inputs?
Since N-400 applications go to a different address in VSC than I-751, will the officer take out I-751 when he/she is getting ready to work on VSC. The latest info is 12-16 months wait on the forms. I wonder why I-751 is backlogged. It should not be the case. If you are ok then grant LPR, if in doubt then schedule an interview soon enough.
any inputs?
It is backlogged because it is one of the less pressing petitions to need attention. The person is already a CPR. The status can be extended indefinitely on an annual basis with a new I-551, etc. No one's life or love is hanging in the balance if the petition is not adjudicated in a timely manner. Hence the workers assigned to this area are pulled out first to work on more pressing time sensitive petitions, such as the recent deadline for citizens Hondurans and Nicaraguans.
Rete
Jun 2nd 2003, 7:51 am
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I-751 processing time in VSC
Well Rete what I mean was N-400 and I-751 have different address where the forms have to be mailed. Now you and Andy seem to suggest that I-751 is not a very important form and resources are not needed at VSC. However if that is the case why is NSC and TSC so fast in getting them approved and VSC is not. The issue is not the importance of I-751 but it has to do something the way VSC is processing the application.
I would like to know how they process N-400 and I-751 simultaneously.
I would like to know how they process N-400 and I-751 simultaneously.
Jun 2nd 2003, 8:33 am
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Re: I-751 processing time in VSC
Originally posted by SMO
Well Rete what I mean was N-400 and I-751 have different address where the forms have to be mailed. Now you and Andy seem to suggest that I-751 is not a very important form and resources are not needed at VSC. However if that is the case why is NSC and TSC so fast in getting them approved and VSC is not. The issue is not the importance of I-751 but it has to do something the way VSC is processing the application.
I would like to know how they process N-400 and I-751 simultaneously.
Well Rete what I mean was N-400 and I-751 have different address where the forms have to be mailed. Now you and Andy seem to suggest that I-751 is not a very important form and resources are not needed at VSC. However if that is the case why is NSC and TSC so fast in getting them approved and VSC is not. The issue is not the importance of I-751 but it has to do something the way VSC is processing the application.
I would like to know how they process N-400 and I-751 simultaneously.
Because they have less of one petition than the other or place priority on one over the other.
The same question is why is VSC so quick with the I-129F Fiancee Visa over the other three.
As for the address issue, unless my glasses are really dirty the I-129F and the N-400 were both sent to the same address for the Vermont Service Center as I can see from both my copies of the two forms.
Rete
Jun 2nd 2003, 11:29 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
"Andy Platt" wrote in message news:...
> "Omo" wrote ...
>
> > isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
> > 2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
> > permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
> > there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
> > I-751 is approved?
>
> No and the service centers take it into account. I've seen announcements
> from CSC and VSC that they'll process the removal of conditions as part of
> the naturalization application if necessary; I haven't seen the same thing
> from the other offices but they probably do that.
>
> So, file when you are eligible.
>
> Andy.
You've only confirmed what I already knew, so thanks for the
clarification Andy! Oooo,..can't wait!
> "Omo" wrote ...
>
> > isn't approved yet after one year or more. We'll be filing December
> > 2003 and, as I understand, be eligble for citizenship after 3 years of
> > permanent residency and continuous marriage. Is that accurate? Is
> > there some law that says a PR can't file for citizenship until his/her
> > I-751 is approved?
>
> No and the service centers take it into account. I've seen announcements
> from CSC and VSC that they'll process the removal of conditions as part of
> the naturalization application if necessary; I haven't seen the same thing
> from the other offices but they probably do that.
>
> So, file when you are eligible.
>
> Andy.
You've only confirmed what I already knew, so thanks for the
clarification Andy! Oooo,..can't wait!
Jun 3rd 2003, 5:48 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
hi,
the i-751 NOA state that we are to contact them after 6 months if we
do not hear or get anything from them.
my husband and i are aware of the looooong waiting time for the I-751.
my current I-551 stamp is going to expire in august and he told me to
keep going back to the BCIS office to extend the stamp....yes, more
waiting and wasting of my time.
the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
card?
since coming to the US.....i've learn to be very, very patient. ;p
just my thoughts.
-goosy
the i-751 NOA state that we are to contact them after 6 months if we
do not hear or get anything from them.
my husband and i are aware of the looooong waiting time for the I-751.
my current I-551 stamp is going to expire in august and he told me to
keep going back to the BCIS office to extend the stamp....yes, more
waiting and wasting of my time.
the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
card?
since coming to the US.....i've learn to be very, very patient. ;p
just my thoughts.
-goosy
Jun 3rd 2003, 6:37 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
"Goose" wrote:
> the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
> justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
> if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
> card?
Yes getting the additional stamp (if needed, which will only be for travel
abroad) is a pain but other than that there really isn't any reason to
process an I-751 with any speed. With an N-400 you are applying for a
specific benefit; with an I-751 you already have that benefit and it will
not be removed while the processing continues. So, you aren't losing
anything by not applying for US citizenship.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
> the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
> justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
> if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
> card?
Yes getting the additional stamp (if needed, which will only be for travel
abroad) is a pain but other than that there really isn't any reason to
process an I-751 with any speed. With an N-400 you are applying for a
specific benefit; with an I-751 you already have that benefit and it will
not be removed while the processing continues. So, you aren't losing
anything by not applying for US citizenship.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Jun 3rd 2003, 6:44 pm
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
Originally posted by Andy Platt
"Goose" wrote:
> the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
> justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
> if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
> card?
Yes getting the additional stamp (if needed, which will only be for travel
abroad) is a pain but other than that there really isn't any reason to
process an I-751 with any speed. With an N-400 you are applying for a
specific benefit; with an I-751 you already have that benefit and it will
not be removed while the processing continues. So, you aren't losing
anything by not applying for US citizenship.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
"Goose" wrote:
> the priority of the processing of the N400 over the I-751 is still not
> justifiable. i feel that everything should be done concurrently. what
> if someone does not want to get US citizenship but just the green
> card?
Yes getting the additional stamp (if needed, which will only be for travel
abroad) is a pain but other than that there really isn't any reason to
process an I-751 with any speed. With an N-400 you are applying for a
specific benefit; with an I-751 you already have that benefit and it will
not be removed while the processing continues. So, you aren't losing
anything by not applying for US citizenship.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
Hello All!
Are there any time requirements for getting a passport stamped due to the expiration of the I-751 1 year extention? I heard the BCIS won't stamp your passport if you show up more than 30 days prior to the expiration. Does this sound correct? The reason I'm asking is that we've to get my wife's passport stamped by 07/25 and have to go to 26 Federal Plaza in NYC - do not want to be told by BCIS that we came too early...
Thanks
Jun 4th 2003, 1:30 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
MKVEREL wrote in message news:...
>
> Hello All!
>
> Are there any time requirements for getting a passport stamped due to
> the expiration of the I-751 1 year extention? I heard the BCIS won't
> stamp your passport if you show up more than 30 days prior to the
> expiration.
Where did you hear - or read - about that? Is it at BCIS or their
local website?
Does this sound correct? The reason I'm asking is that we've
> to get my wife's passport stamped by 07/25 and have to go to 26 Federal
> Plaza in NYC - do not want to be told by BCIS that we came too early...
>
>
Thanks
I've never heard of such a restriction, but I could be wrong. Is this
directive for all local BCIS offices or just NYC?
Omo
>
> Hello All!
>
> Are there any time requirements for getting a passport stamped due to
> the expiration of the I-751 1 year extention? I heard the BCIS won't
> stamp your passport if you show up more than 30 days prior to the
> expiration.
Where did you hear - or read - about that? Is it at BCIS or their
local website?
Does this sound correct? The reason I'm asking is that we've
> to get my wife's passport stamped by 07/25 and have to go to 26 Federal
> Plaza in NYC - do not want to be told by BCIS that we came too early...
>
>
Thanks
I've never heard of such a restriction, but I could be wrong. Is this
directive for all local BCIS offices or just NYC?
Omo
Jun 4th 2003, 2:57 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
This is a per-BCIS office thing from posts I've seen. Some offices have
given the stamp when there is ages left on the extension letter and some
refuse to give it until that extension is passed.
Andy.
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I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
"Omo" wrote in message
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> MKVEREL wrote in message
news:...
> >
> > Hello All!
> >
> > Are there any time requirements for getting a passport stamped due to
> > the expiration of the I-751 1 year extention? I heard the BCIS won't
> > stamp your passport if you show up more than 30 days prior to the
> > expiration.
> Where did you hear - or read - about that? Is it at BCIS or their
> local website?
> Does this sound correct? The reason I'm asking is that we've
> > to get my wife's passport stamped by 07/25 and have to go to 26 Federal
> > Plaza in NYC - do not want to be told by BCIS that we came too early...
> >
> >
> Thanks
> I've never heard of such a restriction, but I could be wrong. Is this
> directive for all local BCIS offices or just NYC?
> Omo
given the stamp when there is ages left on the extension letter and some
refuse to give it until that extension is passed.
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
"Omo" wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> MKVEREL wrote in message
news:...
> >
> > Hello All!
> >
> > Are there any time requirements for getting a passport stamped due to
> > the expiration of the I-751 1 year extention? I heard the BCIS won't
> > stamp your passport if you show up more than 30 days prior to the
> > expiration.
> Where did you hear - or read - about that? Is it at BCIS or their
> local website?
> Does this sound correct? The reason I'm asking is that we've
> > to get my wife's passport stamped by 07/25 and have to go to 26 Federal
> > Plaza in NYC - do not want to be told by BCIS that we came too early...
> >
> >
> Thanks
> I've never heard of such a restriction, but I could be wrong. Is this
> directive for all local BCIS offices or just NYC?
> Omo
Jun 4th 2003, 4:11 am
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Re: I-751 processing times in Vermont
Originally posted by Rete
What different address in Vermont SC? We mailed our on May 20 and it was 75 Lower Weldon, St. Albans, VT.
It is backlogged because it is one of the less pressing petitions to need attention. The person is already a CPR. The status can be extended indefinitely on an annual basis with a new I-551, etc. No one's life or love is hanging in the balance if the petition is not adjudicated in a timely manner. Hence the workers assigned to this area are pulled out first to work on more pressing time sensitive petitions, such as the recent deadline for citizens Hondurans and Nicaraguans.
Rete
What different address in Vermont SC? We mailed our on May 20 and it was 75 Lower Weldon, St. Albans, VT.
It is backlogged because it is one of the less pressing petitions to need attention. The person is already a CPR. The status can be extended indefinitely on an annual basis with a new I-551, etc. No one's life or love is hanging in the balance if the petition is not adjudicated in a timely manner. Hence the workers assigned to this area are pulled out first to work on more pressing time sensitive petitions, such as the recent deadline for citizens Hondurans and Nicaraguans.
Rete
If you really want it there quickly -- use USPS express mail -- which can deliver to POB's.
