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Old Mar 24th 2003, 2:45 pm
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Hi,

I've recently been thru the entire I-130 process and have been living in the USA with my husband for 3 months now.

My grandfather in Canada has recently become very ill and is not expected to last long. I'm pretty sure that it's ok for me to leave for the funeral but, as I don't want to mess anything up, I'm still going to ask this question.

If I have my Permanent Resident card in hand, is it ok for me to hop a bus and go back to Canada for this? After all the work we've done to be together, I don't want to jepordize anything.


Thanks,
Deanna
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Old Mar 25th 2003, 12:06 am
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I'm a bit confused about where in process you are, and what kind of I-130
you filed. Since you mention your husband, I'm assuming that he is either
a US citizen or a Green Card holder.

Is the I-130 still pending? What is your current status? The answer to
your question depends mostly on what your current status is, since the
I-130 by itself doesn't do much; it just allows you to eventually apply
for a Green Card.

On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 03:45:51 +0000, Deanna852 wrote:

    >
    > Hi,
    >
    > I've recently been thru the entire I-130 process and have been living in
    > the USA with my husband for 3 months now.
    >
    > My grandfather in Canada has recently become very ill and is not
    > expected to last long. I'm pretty sure that it's ok for me to leave for
    > the funeral but, as I don't want to mess anything up, I'm still going to
    > ask this question.
    >
    > If I have my Permanent Resident card in hand, is it ok for me to hop a
    > bus and go back to Canada for this? After all the work we've done to be
    > together, I don't want to jepordize anything.
    >
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Deanna
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Old Mar 25th 2003, 3:33 am
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I'm a conditional permanent resident right now. Conditional because we've been married less than two years. The I-130 was marriage based. I've been thru all the paperwork and the interview, crossed the border, gotten my passport stamped, and recieved my card in the mail.

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Old Mar 25th 2003, 3:36 am
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Found my answer on the www.immigration.gov site.


"A Permanent Resident of the United States can travel freely outside of the US. A passport from the country of citizenship is normally all that is needed. To reenter the US a Permanent Resident normally needs to present the green card (Permanent Resident Card, Form I-551) for readmission. A reentry permit is needed for reentry for trips greater than one year but less than two years in duration"
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Old Mar 25th 2003, 8:30 am
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On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:33:03 +0000, Deanna852 wrote:

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    > I'm a conditional permanent resident right now. Conditional because
    > we've been married less than two years. The I-130 was marriage based.
    > I've been thru all the paperwork and the interview, crossed the border,
    > gotten my passport stamped, and recieved my card in the mail.

I see you already found your answer. Yes, you can travel freely. You are
in many respects treated just as a US citizen (you can usually even use
the line for US citizens).
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 8:12 am
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Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    > [LPRs] are in many respects treated just as a US citizen
> (you can usually even use the line for US citizens).

Not one of these life-and-death questions, but I am curious... ;-)

What is the correct procedure for "mixed" travel parties, e.g., LPR
parents and their USC children (at terminals where LPRs are supposed to
line up with non-immigrants)? What about, say, (adult) LPRs traveling
with their non-immigrant parents, who may have a hard time communicating
in English (at terminals where LPRs and non-immigrants have different
lines)?

Thanks,
Thorsten
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 4:03 pm
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:12:09 +0000, Thorsten wrote:

    > Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    >> [LPRs] are in many respects treated just as a US citizen
    > > (you can usually even use the line for US citizens).
    >
    > Not one of these life-and-death questions, but I am curious... ;-)
    >
    > What is the correct procedure for "mixed" travel parties, e.g., LPR
    > parents and their USC children (at terminals where LPRs are supposed to
    > line up with non-immigrants)?

I don't think such terminals exist. Even if the sign just says "US
citizen, you can still get into the same line.

    > What about, say, (adult) LPRs traveling with their non-immigrant
    > parents, who may have a hard time communicating in English (at terminals
    > where LPRs and non-immigrants have different lines)?

You have two options: either, you all get in the non-immigrant line, or
you go into separate lines. By the way, even if you are in the same line,
you should not step up to the inspector together with your parents. They
only want families with minor children, or at least who live together, to
show up together. When I was travelling with my brother (both as tourist
at the time) but without my parents, they asked us to step up separately.

If communication problems do develop, don't worry too much. They are used
to that, and also, they can then still ask you to translate.
 
Old Mar 27th 2003, 5:51 pm
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Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    > On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:12:09 +0000, Thorsten wrote:

    >>What is the correct procedure for "mixed" travel parties, e.g., LPR
    >>parents and their USC children (at terminals where LPRs are supposed to
    >>line up with non-immigrants)?

    > I don't think such terminals exist. Even if the sign just says "US
    > citizen, you can still get into the same line.

I am positive that at least once I went thru an arrival terminal where
USCs were sent to one side and non-immigrants and (explicitly) LPRs were
sent to the other side. Unfortunately, I don't remember which terminal
(or even which airport) this was. It must have been at one of the
following airports: JFK, EWR (Newark), ORD (O'Hare), LAX, SFO, or SJC
(San Jose).

    >>What about, say, (adult) LPRs traveling with their non-immigrant
    >>parents, who may have a hard time communicating in English (at terminals
    >>where LPRs and non-immigrants have different lines)?

    > You have two options: either, you all get in the non-immigrant line, or
    > you go into separate lines. By the way, even if you are in the same line,
    > you should not step up to the inspector together with your parents. They
    > only want families with minor children, or at least who live together, to
    > show up together. When I was traveling with my brother (both as tourist
    > at the time) but without my parents, they asked us to step up separately.


Interesting. I guess these things are handled on a discretionary basis.
I had no problems whatsoever stepping up together with my parents (whose
English is at about the same level as my Sanskrit, i.e., non-existent.)

Thorsten
 
Old Mar 28th 2003, 1:53 pm
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:51:53 +0000, Thorsten wrote:

    > Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    >> On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:12:09 +0000, Thorsten wrote:
    >
    >>>What is the correct procedure for "mixed" travel parties, e.g., LPR
    >>>parents and their USC children (at terminals where LPRs are supposed to
    >>>line up with non-immigrants)?
    >
    >> I don't think such terminals exist. Even if the sign just says "US
    >> citizen, you can still get into the same line.
    >
    > I am positive that at least once I went thru an arrival terminal where
    > USCs were sent to one side and non-immigrants and (explicitly) LPRs were
    > sent to the other side. Unfortunately, I don't remember which terminal
    > (or even which airport) this was. It must have been at one of the
    > following airports: JFK, EWR (Newark), ORD (O'Hare), LAX, SFO, or SJC
    > (San Jose).

Interesting! I have used JFK, LAX (international terminal),
Washington-Dulles and ATL since I got my GC. At least in ATL, I went into
line marked US citizens without a problem. There was no sign that said
LPRs for either of the lines.

Of course it is entirely possible that the "sorters" (the people who tell
you where to go) just used gut feeling. For that matter, they do send even
regular non-immigrants to the US citizen line once there are no citizens
waiting there.

    >>>What about, say, (adult) LPRs traveling with their non-immigrant
    >>>parents, who may have a hard time communicating in English (at terminals
    >>>where LPRs and non-immigrants have different lines)?
    >
    >> You have two options: either, you all get in the non-immigrant line, or
    >> you go into separate lines. By the way, even if you are in the same line,
    >> you should not step up to the inspector together with your parents. They
    >> only want families with minor children, or at least who live together, to
    >> show up together. When I was traveling with my brother (both as tourist
    >> at the time) but without my parents, they asked us to step up separately.
    >
    > Interesting. I guess these things are handled on a discretionary basis.
    > I had no problems whatsoever stepping up together with my parents (whose
    > English is at about the same level as my Sanskrit, i.e., non-existent.)

In practical terms, they probably often simply don't care.
 
Old Mar 28th 2003, 9:17 pm
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Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    > On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 06:51:53 +0000, Thorsten wrote:
    >>Ingo Pakleppa wrote:
    >>>On Thu, 27 Mar 2003 21:12:09 +0000, Thorsten wrote:

    >>>>What is the correct procedure for "mixed" travel parties, e.g., LPR
    >>>>parents and their USC children (at terminals where LPRs are supposed to
    >>>>line up with non-immigrants)?

    >>>I don't think such terminals exist. Even if the sign just says "US
    >>>citizen, you can still get into the same line.

    >>I am positive that at least once I went thru an arrival terminal where
    >>USCs were sent to one side and non-immigrants and (explicitly) LPRs were
    >>sent to the other side. Unfortunately, I don't remember which terminal
    >>(or even which airport) this was.

    > Interesting! I have used JFK, LAX (international terminal),
    > Washington-Dulles and ATL since I got my GC. At least in ATL, I went into
    > line marked US citizens without a problem. There was no sign that said
    > LPRs for either of the lines.

    > Of course it is entirely possible that the "sorters" (the people who tell
    > you where to go) just used gut feeling. For that matter, they do send even
    > regular non-immigrants to the US citizen line once there are no citizens
    > waiting there.

Oh, yes, I have seen that, also. However, in the case I remember, the
signs above the inspection windows read "U.S. Citizens" on one side and
"Permanent Residents / Visitors" on the other. I distinctly remember
this because this happened a few months before I became an LPR and I was
thinking, "Great, I'm finally getting a GC and now they are changing the
system so that I'll still have to go to the long line!"

Now, ever since I've had my GC, I've only come thru terminals which had
what seems to be the default system, i.e. where USCs and LPRs have a
common line. :-)

Thorsten
 
Old Mar 29th 2003, 6:06 pm
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I came through O' Hare in October 2002 - the LPR's there were in the same line as USC's. Same for SF in June 2001. Can't vouch personally for the others of recent.
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Old Mar 30th 2003, 2:36 am
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On several times me and my wife have just lined up at the US citizen
line with no problem. She is US citizen I am on AOS - never had a
problem, officers where friendly and nice

Sometimes she was allowed to go with me to secondary inspection and
sometimes not.

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Old Mar 30th 2003, 10:37 am
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Mayo wrote:
    > On several times me and my wife have just lined up at the US citizen
    > line with no problem. She is US citizen I am on AOS - never had a
    > problem, officers where friendly and nice

Same experience here (at least as the friendly INS [I haven't dealt with
BCBP, yet] inspectors are concerned.) Ever since becoming an LPR, they
always greet me a warm "Welcome home!", a far cry from the German border
inspectors, who for some reason (maybe they are under order to be always
grumpy?) would never greet a German citizen (!) like me in a similar
manner.

    > Sometimes she was allowed to go with me to secondary inspection and
    > sometimes not.

Does this mean that you are _routinely_ asked to secondary inspection?!
Care to elaborate?

Thorsten
 
Old Mar 30th 2003, 10:16 pm
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On Sun, 30 Mar 2003 23:37:16 +0000, Thorsten wrote:

    > Mayo wrote:
    >> On several times me and my wife have just lined up at the US citizen
    >> line with no problem. She is US citizen I am on AOS - never had a
    >> problem, officers where friendly and nice
    >
    > Same experience here (at least as the friendly INS [I haven't dealt with
    > BCBP, yet] inspectors are concerned.) Ever since becoming an LPR, they
    > always greet me a warm "Welcome home!", a far cry from the German border
    > inspectors, who for some reason (maybe they are under order to be always
    > grumpy?) would never greet a German citizen (!) like me in a similar
    > manner.
    >
    >> Sometimes she was allowed to go with me to secondary inspection and
    >> sometimes not.
    >
    > Does this mean that you are _routinely_ asked to secondary inspection?!
    > Care to elaborate?

He mentioned that he was in AOS, and therefore would be travelling with
Advance Parole. Those are always handled at secondary inspection. Some
airports have two secondary inspection areas (one is Atlanta) that are
color-coded. A/P is the "mild" or "routine" secondary inspection (I think
it is coded green). Orange or red is the "tough" secondary inspection. Or
it could be the other way round; it's been a while since I came through
Atlanta.
 
Old Mar 31st 2003, 12:49 am
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Yes, my understandign is that every time you come in with advance
parole you are sent to secondary inspection, I believe it is just a
procedural thing. I just wait my turn, am sometimes asked verification
questions and given my passport back with an entry stamp.

This has been the case in both JFK and Newark, however I flew into
Chicago once and all was done by the officer at the line (I forgotten
about that trip). Not sure if that was a fluke (it was a really busy
day, July 3rd) or if the process is different by airport/region

I do not believe this will be the case for people with green cards,
just during the AOS when using AP. Maybe someone else can explain the
rationale or give more details

I must say that all officers were very nice to me even at secondary
inspection.

Mario





Thorsten wrote in message news:...
    > Mayo wrote:
    > > On several times me and my wife have just lined up at the US citizen
    > > line with no problem. She is US citizen I am on AOS - never had a
    > > problem, officers where friendly and nice
    >
    > Same experience here (at least as the friendly INS [I haven't dealt with
    > BCBP, yet] inspectors are concerned.) Ever since becoming an LPR, they
    > always greet me a warm "Welcome home!", a far cry from the German border
    > inspectors, who for some reason (maybe they are under order to be always
    > grumpy?) would never greet a German citizen (!) like me in a similar
    > manner.
    >
    > > Sometimes she was allowed to go with me to secondary inspection and
    > > sometimes not.
    >
    > Does this mean that you are _routinely_ asked to secondary inspection?!
    > Care to elaborate?
    >
    > Thorsten
 


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