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Old Sep 24th 2006, 1:58 am
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Originally Posted by couriousana
I'm kind of new on the immigration options and rules... but IMHO, wouldn't it be better for Mark's fiancee to just apply for a K-1 (fiancee) visa, which would take less time than the spouse visa? He and his wife could just have their religous ceremony in Brazil next year, and then once having the K-1 visa she could come to US, marry and adjust status. I have the feeling that marrying abroad is not the best option if the couple wants to live in US afterwards. My apologies if I said something stupid...
Not stupid at all. It's just that, like Meauxna and Rene have pointed out, there are several details that are unknown to us which might make the K1 impractical or impossible for the OP and his fiancee. Otherwise it was a great suggestion.

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Dear, Folinskyinla - Thank YOU so much for your post... I wanted to pay you the respects immediately to acknowldege this. I'm printing it out now and will read it.
Hi:

Remember, I'm telling you to look it up and get CURRENT information. DCF can really be a thing that is here today and gone tomorrow in the few posts that do it.
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Old Sep 25th 2006, 11:51 am
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Hi Guys! Sorry for the delay. Yes - I am a USC - if that means United States Citizen. I am SO glad I found you because I here in Kansas! Yes, that's right - "Dorothy and Toto." So I am concerned about what level of quality council I am getting (with no disrespect to my attorney personally or Kansas - but more of it not really being a "metro" area).

Thanks SO much for everyone's help on this. As you can imagine, some of these acronyms, have me confused - but I figured out USC - (I hope anyway - Ha!).

What is a LPR?

My lawyer did discuss with me the options to bring her over on a I-29F. But what does LPR stand for?

Here is what they are suggesting:
The plan that I am recommending is the plan where you get married in Sao Palo, your wife enters on a temporary visa, and then applies for permanent residence here in Wichita. In order to do that, you first need to get married. Then you file the I-130. Once it is approved, we file the I-129F (the same form that is used for the Fianc�e K-1 visa, but in this case for a Temporary Spouse K-3 visa) With the approved I-129F, your wife obtains the temporary visa to enter the US, and then we apply for permanent residence.

The issue here is the way I understand it we will have to wait for not ONE but TWO approval's "concurrently" (independent and contingent on each other). So, I'm doing the math and it worries me.

I had hoped that I could start on some of these forms PRIOR to the marriage - but have learned that it must be AFTER (which I guess I can understand too).

Then you hear horror stories, like a man who married a woman in the phillipines and it's taken over 4 years and she is still not in the States. But then I read on this group that that perticular area is more difficult.

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Old Sep 25th 2006, 11:54 am
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SORRY! CORRECTION - THANKS - YES IT WILL BE:
MARCH 25 - 2007! Thanks - HA! My Bad! - Mark



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Old Sep 25th 2006, 11:56 am
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Can you please tell me what, DCF means? Thanks :-)


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Originally Posted by Mark
What is a LPR?
Legal Permanent Resident (as opposed to Conditional Permanent Resident). Both are PRs with full and equal rights/responsibilities... but a CPR must apply to have the conditions removed.


Can you please tell me what, DCF means?
Direct Consular Filing. Not an official term, but some countries will allow you to file directly with the consulate rather than petitioning in the US.

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Originally Posted by Mark
In order to do that, you first need to get married. Then you file the I-130. Once it is approved, we file the I-129F (the same form that is used for the Fianc饠K-1 visa, but in this case for a Temporary Spouse K-3 visa) With the approved I-129F, your wife obtains the temporary visa to enter the US, and then we apply for permanent residence.

The issue here is the way I understand it we will have to wait for not ONE but TWO approval's "concurrently" (independent and contingent on each other). So, I'm doing the math and it worries me
Hi Mark,

I already mentioned this, but maybe you missed it. You don't need an APPROVED I-130 to file the I-129F. You only need to have the receipt that you filed it. So no, you are not waiting for two approvals. You will file the I-130, and within a few weeks you get a receipt. Using that receipt, you then file the I-129F.

However, lately, I-130's have sped up, so do both and just follow through whichever one is gets an interview first.

Best Wishes,
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Originally Posted by Mark

What is a LPR?


The plan that I am recommending is the plan where you get married in Sao Palo, your wife enters on a temporary visa, and then applies for permanent residence here in Wichita. In order to do that, you first need to get married. Then you file the I-130. Once it is approved, we file the I-129F (the same form that is used for the Fianc�e K-1 visa, but in this case for a Temporary Spouse K-3 visa) With the approved I-129F, your wife obtains the temporary visa to enter the US, and then we apply for permanent residence.

The issue here is the way I understand it we will have to wait for not ONE but TWO approval's "concurrently" (independent and contingent on each other). So, I'm doing the math and it worries me.

I had hoped that I could start on some of these forms PRIOR to the marriage - but have learned that it must be AFTER (which I guess I can understand too).

Then you hear horror stories, like a man who married a woman in the phillipines and it's taken over 4 years and she is still not in the States. But then I read on this group that that perticular area is more difficult.
Hi:

LPR is "Lawful Permanent Resident" which is dervied from the term "lawfully admitted to permanent residence." It is old immigration-speak -- sometimes called a "lapper."

There is a subset of LPR called "conditional permanet residence" -- this is for marriage based immigrants when the marriage is less than two years old and for "EB-5" investor visas. CPR is a little confusing becuase it is a contract term imposed 20 years back on a long established immigration system. A lot of things in immigration law are depedent upon being a LPR. So the grant of LPR based upon a marriage less than two years old is subject to a "condition" -- you have to file a second application at the second anniversery of grant of LPR in order to keep it.

BTW, the "permanent" green card is valid for 10 years -- so you will see the phrases "2 year residence" and "10-year residence" -- neither of which is legally accurate, but I tend to be pedantic on such things.

BTW, the K-3 is only operative IF it is approved BEFORE the I-130. I've had case where the I-130 got approved first.
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Can you please tell me what, DCF means? Thanks :-)
Sure, read this article:
What is DCF and Why Do I Care?
http://www.visajourney.com/forums/in...ustom&page=dcf

I can't get a bead on Rio for DCF. (DCF is NOT an official term and you won't find it listed as such on the Consulate's webpage)
I remember MrF's story now, from when he posted. I think you'll find things a little tighter there now, but since you will marry in Brazil anyway, it NEVER hurts to ask, especially if you ask nicely and know the right question. I strongly encourage you to look into this, and your lawyer may/may not be aware of it as an option. DCF would be my #1 choice---well, actually it WAS my #1 choice.

The K-3 visa is an optional parallel track visa for spouses. You basically have 2 going at the same time and can take the one that is approved first.
Either of those options will take 9-12 months.
Reread MrF's post about a civil service. No really. None of this can start until you have a marriage certificate in hand.
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Originally Posted by Mark
Hi Guys! Sorry for the delay. Yes - I am a USC - if that means United States Citizen. I am SO glad I found you because I here in Kansas! Yes, that's right - "Dorothy and Toto." So I am concerned about what level of quality council I am getting (with no disrespect to my attorney personally or Kansas - but more of it not really being a "metro" area).

Thanks SO much for everyone's help on this. As you can imagine, some of these acronyms, have me confused - but I figured out USC - (I hope anyway - Ha!).

What is a LPR? What

My lawyer did discuss with me the options to bring her over on a I-29F. But what does LPR stand for?

Here is what they are suggesting:
The plan that I am recommending is the plan where you get married in Sao Palo, your wife enters on a temporary visa, and then applies for permanent residence here in Wichita. In order to do that, you first need to get married. Then you file the I-130. Once it is approved, we file the I-129F (the same form that is used for the Fianc饠K-1 visa, but in this case for a Temporary Spouse K-3 visa) With the approved I-129F, your wife obtains the temporary visa to enter the US, and then we apply for permanent residence.

The issue here is the way I understand it we will have to wait for not ONE but TWO approval's "concurrently" (independent and contingent on each other). So, I'm doing the math and it worries me.

I had hoped that I could start on some of these forms PRIOR to the marriage - but have learned that it must be AFTER (which I guess I can understand too).

Then you hear horror stories, like a man who married a woman in the phillipines and it's taken over 4 years and she is still not in the States. But then I read on this group that that perticular area is more difficult.





My wife is from Sao Paulo. We went the K-1 route and it took 8 months for the interview in Rio. Once it was approved, she was on a plane in 2 weeks to the US. Everything was smooth except one thing. I am self employed and had the burden of more proof on the income requirements due to large tax deductions for my business. Most self employed individuals understand know how that is.

As far as the paperwork, and dealing with the consulate in Rio it was no problem. All they want is EXACTLY what they ask from you in advance. If you do that, you will have no problems.

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Thanks RENE and everyone else! I really apprecaite it your advice and your patience! Mark

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