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buzwad Jan 10th 2010 8:24 pm

G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
Hi everyone,

since my last post, the timescale got pushed back by a year since my wife (USC) decided to work here for a year. Anyway, the time is now upon us to fill in forms for DCF in London.

My question this time is about the G-325A form:

Towards the bottom of the form, it asks
"This form is submitted in connection with an application for:"
and the options are
Naturalization
Status as Permanent Resident
or Other (please specify).

I was thinking of putting "I-130" under the "Other" option.... but I'm not sure, so thought I'd better check with the experts! :thumbup:

Also, I've been putting in "UK" or "United Kingdom" for the country name, but I read in someone else's post that this can be confused with Ukraine and "GB" is preferable... is this so?

Thanks in advance,
Buzwad

Noorah101 Jan 10th 2010 8:40 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
If it is the USC's G-325A, I'd say it's in connection with an I-130. If it's the UK's G-325A, it might be in connection with application for Immigrant Visa.

Rene

nettlebed Jan 10th 2010 9:06 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8235722)

I was thinking of putting "I-130" under the "Other" option.... but I'm not sure, so thought I'd better check with the experts! :thumbup:

Also, I've been putting in "UK" or "United Kingdom" for the country name, but I read in someone else's post that this can be confused with Ukraine and "GB" is preferable... is this so?

Our attorney put down "Status as Permanent Resident" on mine, and on my wife's "Other" and added "I-130 application for spouse"

I've never heard anybody say that UK might be confused with Ukraine, and always used United Kingdom exclusively, but always written out, rather than just UK.

buzwad Jan 10th 2010 9:22 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
Thanks to you both -- seems I'm not alone in finding this confusing!

@Noorah101: There isn't much room on the form under "Other"... I can fit "Immigrant Vis" on there :-/ Would that do for mine?

@Nettlebed: Are you the USC, or your wife? I'm surprised your attorney was able to write so much in a small space! :-p Agreed on the UK thing, but in many places on forms I-130 and G-325A there isn't enough space to write out the whole name.

And to throw another general question in.... is it appropriate to write "None" under "Middle name"?

avanutria Jan 10th 2010 9:32 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
I wouldn't write none under middle name - I'd just draw a line through it.

nettlebed Jan 10th 2010 9:36 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8235872)
Thanks to you both -- seems I'm not alone in finding this confusing!

Our attorney was not all confused (thank goodness :))


@Nettlebed: Are you the USC, or your wife? I'm surprised your attorney was able to write so much in a small space! :-p Agreed on the UK thing, but in many places on forms I-130 and G-325A there isn't enough space to write out the whole name.
At the time of application, I was a UKC, and my wife was the sponsoring USC. Also, the attorney had computer-fillable versions of all the forms as PDF files, so they were able to use an appropriately small typeface for all fields.

And to throw another general question in.... is it appropriate to write "None" under "Middle name"?
Where the answer was none, our attorney wrote "--NONE--" with two dashes either side of the word.

buzwad Jan 10th 2010 9:40 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
Thanks to you both on the "None" matter -- it didn't seem right!:thumbsup:

@Nettlebed: Thanks for you insight -- did you also use DCF in London? If not, would that make a difference to what's put into the box?

nettlebed Jan 10th 2010 9:44 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8235901)
Thanks to you both on the "None" matter -- it didn't seem right!:thumbsup:

@Nettlebed: Thanks for you insight -- did you also use DCF in London? If not, would that make a difference to what's put into the box?

No, I adjusted while here in the US (I was on an H-1B when I got married). And, no, I don't believe it would make any difference.

ian-mstm Jan 10th 2010 11:17 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by nettlebed (Post 8235834)
I've never heard anybody say that UK might be confused with Ukraine...

It has happened. Mr. F. used to regale us with his thoughts on that from time to time. :)

Ian

BritishGuy36 Jan 11th 2010 12:02 am

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8235722)
I was thinking of putting "I-130" under the "Other" option....


Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 8235768)
If it is the USC's G-325A, I'd say it's in connection with an I-130. If it's the UK's G-325A, it might be in connection with application for Immigrant Visa.

When we did it, we checked the 'other' box, and put 'I-130 Petition' on both.

Noorah101 Jan 11th 2010 12:22 am

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8235872)
@Noorah101: There isn't much room on the form under "Other"... I can fit "Immigrant Vis" on there :-/ Would that do for mine?

You are allowed to handwrite something on the form if you don't have enough space to type it on the fillable form online.

Rene

buzwad Jan 11th 2010 7:45 am

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
This helpful guide suggests I (UKC) would put "Status as Permanent Resident" in this case....

http://www.immihelp.com/forms/g-325a...formation.html

Noorah101 Jan 11th 2010 2:21 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8237002)
This helpful guide suggests I (UKC) would put "Status as Permanent Resident" in this case....

http://www.immihelp.com/forms/g-325a...formation.html

Well, the thing is....you aren't really applying for status as a permanent resident. You're applying for an Immigrant Visa.

Rene

BritishGuy36 Jan 11th 2010 3:50 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8237002)
This helpful guide suggests I (UKC) would put "Status as Permanent Resident" in this case....

http://www.immihelp.com/forms/g-325a...formation.html

No it doesn't....go read it again....that's for AOS. You aren't performing AOS.

jeffreyhy Jan 11th 2010 3:56 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
This illustrates how important that question is. (NOT)

G-325A has such limited use these days, the case officer knows the purpose for which it was submitted regardless of how the question is answered. (And, the petition or application that requires it is right there along side.)

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8237002)
This helpful guide suggests I (UKC) would put "Status as Permanent Resident" in this case....

http://www.immihelp.com/forms/g-325a...formation.html


Originally Posted by Noorah101 (Post 8237976)
Well, the thing is....you aren't really applying for status as a permanent resident. You're applying for an Immigrant Visa.

Rene


Originally Posted by BritishGuy36 (Post 8238264)
No it doesn't....go read it again....that's for AOS. You aren't performing AOS.


buzwad Jan 20th 2010 8:24 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by BritishGuy36 (Post 8238264)
No it doesn't....go read it again....that's for AOS. You aren't performing AOS.


Perhaps you should read it again? The website quite clearly says:

If you are submitting a G-325A in connection with...

a) N-400 Citizenship, check "Naturalization"

b) I-485 Adjustment of status, check "Status as permanent resident"

c) Fiance visa, [check something]

d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"


Thanks to JEff for the insight... and to everyone else, seems it doesn't really matter that much... but always best to try and do things by the book! :D

meauxna Jan 20th 2010 8:32 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267158)
Perhaps you should read it again? The website quite clearly says:

If you are submitting a G-325A in connection with...

a) N-400 Citizenship, check "Naturalization"

b) I-485 Adjustment of status, check "Status as permanent resident"

c) Fiance visa, [check something]

d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"


Thanks to JEff for the insight... and to everyone else, seems it doesn't really matter that much... but always best to try and do things by the book! :D

You are not applying for a family based green card; you are applying for an Immigrant Visa.

Noorah101 Jan 20th 2010 8:33 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267158)
d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"

I looked at the link, and you're right, that's what it says. However, the above item isn't really correct (what they wrote). You aren't applying for a family-based green card, you're applying for a family-based Immigrant Visa. So it's just badly worded on their part.

Rene

buzwad Jan 20th 2010 8:43 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
You're both right... but it was my impression that they were referring to the filing of a I-130 (not sure if there are any other ways for USCs/USLPRs to bring alien relatives to the US).

Technically, the G-325A isn't about my application for an immigrant visa.... it's related to my spouse's petition for her alien relative (which, hopefully leads to an immigrant visa for me :) ).

Noorah101 Jan 20th 2010 8:53 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267224)
but it was my impression that they were referring to the filing of a I-130 (not sure if there are any other ways for USCs/USLPRs to bring alien relatives to the US).

Your impresssion is correct...they are referring to the filing of the I-130. But filing an I-130 leads to an Immigrant Visa, not a green card (as they make it seem).


Technically, the G-325A isn't about my application for an immigrant visa.... it's related to my spouse's petition for her alien relative (which, hopefully leads to an immigrant visa for me :) ).
Exactly.

Rene

jeffreyhy Jan 20th 2010 10:11 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
bw,

Note that that web site is not an authoritative source - it's opinion, as are all of the responses that you've been given here.

My opinion? Both petitioner and beneficiary are submitting the G-325A in support of the I-130 petition, for which the instructions say that both petioner and beneficiary must include an I-485 with the petition.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267158)
Perhaps you should read it again? The website quite clearly says:

If you are submitting a G-325A in connection with...

.....

d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"


buzwad Jan 20th 2010 10:20 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
Quite right, JEff, it's all unofficial... I think I'm going to plump for Other/I-130 Petition for the missus' copy (USC) and Other/Immigrant Visa for mine.


My opinion? Both petitioner and beneficiary are submitting the G-325A in support of the I-130 petition, for which the instructions say that both petioner and beneficiary must include an I-485 with the petition.
Instructions? What instructions? :unsure:

jeffreyhy Jan 20th 2010 10:23 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
bw,

Why is your reason different from your wife's? Both of your G-325As are going with the same I-130 petition (which isn't an immigrant visa application). Just curious. (I understand Brennan's thought process, but Booth is a mystery.)

The instructions that come with the I-130.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267570)
Quite right, JEff, it's all unofficial... I think I'm going to plump for Other/I-130 Petition for the missus' copy (USC) and Other/Immigrant Visa for mine.

Instructions? What instructions? :unsure:


BritishGuy36 Jan 20th 2010 10:28 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267158)
Perhaps you should read it again?

d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"

A bit rich to tell others they aren't reading things properly, when apparently you don't even know what you're applying for.


Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267224)
Technically, the G-325A isn't about my application for an immigrant visa.... it's related to my spouse's petition for her alien relative (which, hopefully leads to an immigrant visa for me :) ).

....which is why my first response in this thread was......


Originally Posted by BritishGuy36 (Post 8236148)
When we did it, we checked the 'other' box, and put 'I-130 Petition' on both.


buzwad Jan 20th 2010 10:42 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by jeffreyhy (Post 8267581)
Why is your reason different from your wife's? Both of your G-325As are going with the same I-130 petition (which isn't an immigrant visa application). Just curious. (I understand Brennan's thought process, but Booth is a mystery.)

The instructions that come with the I-130.

You've made a very valid point, JEff.... there shouldn't be a difference as we're both sending it in for the same reason... I've been converted! I-130 Petition on both!


Both petitioner and beneficiary are submitting the G-325A in support of the I-130 petition, for which the instructions say that both petioner and beneficiary must include an I-485 with the petition.
The instructions for the I-130 don't say that a I-485 has to be filed. Interestingly, the I-130 instructions do say : " Except for your name and signature you do not have to repeat on Form G-325A the information given on your Form I-130 petition. " http://www.uscis.gov/files/form/i-130instr.pdf

I think I'll repeat the info ;)

Brit36, I read it just fine and do understand what I'm applying for... it's not my fault the website has got things a little mixed up.

jeffreyhy Jan 21st 2010 2:44 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 
bw,

You are quite right, they don't! I should have written 'G325A'

The fingers are quicker than the brain, and often don't listen to the brain anyway! :o

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267639)
The instructions for the I-130 don't say that a I-485 has to be filed.

Originally Posted by jeffreyhy (Post 8267535)
My opinion? Both petitioner and beneficiary are submitting the G-325A in support of the I-130 petition, for which the instructions say that both petioner and beneficiary must include an I-485 with the petition.



BritishGuy36 Jan 21st 2010 7:38 pm

Re: G-325A - what is the form submitted in connection to?
 

Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267158)
d) Family based green card (me!!), alien spouse should check "Status as permanent resident"


Originally Posted by buzwad (Post 8267639)
Brit36, I read it just fine and do understand what I'm applying for... it's not my fault the website has got things a little mixed up.

You might do at the time I type this, but you clearly didn't when you made the first comment above.

Anyway, as long as you understand now, that's all that matters, going forward.


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