Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
May 25th 2004, 9:18 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by souls canuck
hopefully you got your answer..
seems some folks were a wee bit judgemental on this one..
my neice is about to turn 16.. do I want her to get married right now? nope..
but you aren't talking about MY niece.
hopefully you got your answer..
seems some folks were a wee bit judgemental on this one..
my neice is about to turn 16.. do I want her to get married right now? nope..
but you aren't talking about MY niece.
If I may be so bold we are also talking about a country (Thailand) where the parents of a 16 year old may want a better life for thier daughter in the states than what may be available in Thailand (from what I've heard).
and for the record my fiance is my age (which is nobodys biz except to say well over the age of consent) thank you very much.
May 25th 2004, 9:22 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by soulsender
If I may be so bold we are also talking about a country (Thailand) where the parents of a 16 year old may want a better life for thier daughter in the states than what may be available in Thailand (from what I've heard).
If I may be so bold we are also talking about a country (Thailand) where the parents of a 16 year old may want a better life for thier daughter in the states than what may be available in Thailand (from what I've heard).
May 25th 2004, 9:27 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by ray6
And it has been known for parents to sell their children...
And it has been known for parents to sell their children...
I have read some wierd stories myself. Of course, it doesn't necessarily follow although the OP's post appears to lean towards it. In which case, I would lend my voice to the disapproval faction 
May 25th 2004, 9:52 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Ranjini (and others),
The age of consent (as the expression is most commonly used)and the age at which one can marry without parental consent are not the same thing...
Regards, JEff
The age of consent (as the expression is most commonly used)and the age at which one can marry without parental consent are not the same thing...
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by Ranjini
Are you being merely disapproving?? I do believe the law allows you to do that as long as the fiancee in question has parental consent. In some countries 16 is actually the age of consent.
Are you being merely disapproving?? I do believe the law allows you to do that as long as the fiancee in question has parental consent. In some countries 16 is actually the age of consent.
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May 25th 2004, 10:02 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by jeffreyhy
Ranjini (and others),
The age of consent (as the expression is most commonly used)and the age at which one can marry without parental consent are not the same thing...
Regards, JEff
Ranjini (and others),
The age of consent (as the expression is most commonly used)and the age at which one can marry without parental consent are not the same thing...
Regards, JEff
May 25th 2004, 10:07 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
ray,
Thailand? Laos and Cambodia, yes, but Thailand? Mmmmm... no.
Many Thai women become sex-workers of their own volition, and young women from even poorer surrounding countries may be sold into the trade in the home country or in Thailand by their parents. It is also true that Thai women are lured into the sex-trade in other, richer countries by unscrupulous recruiters with offers of work that turn out to be something else entirely from what was promised.
But the Thai parent who would sell their child is very rare indeed
Regards, JEff
Thailand? Laos and Cambodia, yes, but Thailand? Mmmmm... no.
Many Thai women become sex-workers of their own volition, and young women from even poorer surrounding countries may be sold into the trade in the home country or in Thailand by their parents. It is also true that Thai women are lured into the sex-trade in other, richer countries by unscrupulous recruiters with offers of work that turn out to be something else entirely from what was promised.
But the Thai parent who would sell their child is very rare indeed
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by ray6
And it [Thailand] has been known for parents to sell their children...
And it [Thailand] has been known for parents to sell their children...
May 25th 2004, 10:22 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by jeffreyhy
But the Thai parent who would sell their child is very rare indeed
Regards, JEff
But the Thai parent who would sell their child is very rare indeed
Regards, JEff
May 25th 2004, 10:28 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
T-M,
According to the web site of US embassy in Bangkok, people under the age of 20 need parental permission to marry in Thailand.
According to web site of the Thai Department of Provincial Affairs, Ministry of Interior, people under the age of 17 require both parental consent and the approval of the court to marry.
Again, I don't know how much consideration the IV unit in Bangkok is going to give to this since the marriage is proposed to take place in the USA, not in Thailand, but I expect that they will look at this situation with a very jaundiced eye.
Regards, JEff
According to the web site of US embassy in Bangkok, people under the age of 20 need parental permission to marry in Thailand.
According to web site of the Thai Department of Provincial Affairs, Ministry of Interior, people under the age of 17 require both parental consent and the approval of the court to marry.
Again, I don't know how much consideration the IV unit in Bangkok is going to give to this since the marriage is proposed to take place in the USA, not in Thailand, but I expect that they will look at this situation with a very jaundiced eye.
Regards, JEff
Originally posted by jeffreyhy
T-M,
I believe that a 16 year old Thai needs her parent's consent to marry. I don't know if the USCIS will take that into consideration when reviewing your petition (possible RFE material?) or if consular section in Bangkok will take that into consideration when reviewing her visa application.
I also don't know what California state or local law might be with regard to a 16 year old marrying. She'll probably be at least 17 by the time she's able to get there.
Regards, JEff
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Originally posted by T-Mouse
Does anyone know if a 16 yr old Thai girl would be eligible to apply
for a fiance visa to the U.S.? The U.S. fiance lives in California, if
that makes any difference. Thanks for any input you may have!
Regards,
T-Mouse
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T-M,
I believe that a 16 year old Thai needs her parent's consent to marry. I don't know if the USCIS will take that into consideration when reviewing your petition (possible RFE material?) or if consular section in Bangkok will take that into consideration when reviewing her visa application.
I also don't know what California state or local law might be with regard to a 16 year old marrying. She'll probably be at least 17 by the time she's able to get there.
Regards, JEff
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Originally posted by T-Mouse
Does anyone know if a 16 yr old Thai girl would be eligible to apply
for a fiance visa to the U.S.? The U.S. fiance lives in California, if
that makes any difference. Thanks for any input you may have!
Regards,
T-Mouse
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May 25th 2004, 12:20 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
AlisonPA <member20602@british_expats.com> writes:
>> There is no minimum age to file an
>immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration. However, the US citizen
>petitioner must be at least 18 years old and reside in the US before he
>or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and this form is required for
>an immigrant visa for spouses and other relatives of US sponsors.
>>
>But I still think its sick...
>And I guess he's desperate too
>- wonder how old he is! Yes I am being disapproving because I think
>it's pathetic!
That's how Gary Burnore met Belinda! He paid her trailer-trash
parents to take her away with him. They didn't know he was just
another heartland-hillbilly with a hard-on and no brains. He really
_is_ a sex offender, you know. Not the pedophile kind - he porked
some 15 year old lived in the double-wide next door, or something.
You can look it up.
--
Nomen "the only true Anonymous Coward" Nescio
>> There is no minimum age to file an
>immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration. However, the US citizen
>petitioner must be at least 18 years old and reside in the US before he
>or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and this form is required for
>an immigrant visa for spouses and other relatives of US sponsors.
>>
>But I still think its sick...
>And I guess he's desperate too
>- wonder how old he is! Yes I am being disapproving because I think
>it's pathetic!
That's how Gary Burnore met Belinda! He paid her trailer-trash
parents to take her away with him. They didn't know he was just
another heartland-hillbilly with a hard-on and no brains. He really
_is_ a sex offender, you know. Not the pedophile kind - he porked
some 15 year old lived in the double-wide next door, or something.
You can look it up.
--
Nomen "the only true Anonymous Coward" Nescio
May 25th 2004, 12:25 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
On Wed, 26 May 2004 02:20:03 +0200 (CEST), Nomen Nescio
<[email protected]> wrote:
>AlisonPA <member20602@british_expats.com> writes:
>>> There is no minimum age to file an
>>immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration. However, the US citizen
>>petitioner must be at least 18 years old and reside in the US before he
>>or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and this form is required for
>>an immigrant visa for spouses and other relatives of US sponsors.
>>>
>>But I still think its sick...
>>And I guess he's desperate too
>>- wonder how old he is! Yes I am being disapproving because I think
>>it's pathetic!
>That's how Gary Burnore met Belinda! He paid her trailer-trash
>parents to take her away with him. They didn't know he was just
>another heartland-hillbilly with a hard-on and no brains. He really
>_is_ a sex offender, you know. Not the pedophile kind - he porked
>some 15 year old lived in the double-wide next door, or something.
>You can look it up.
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<[email protected]> wrote:
>AlisonPA <member20602@british_expats.com> writes:
>>> There is no minimum age to file an
>>immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration. However, the US citizen
>>petitioner must be at least 18 years old and reside in the US before he
>>or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and this form is required for
>>an immigrant visa for spouses and other relatives of US sponsors.
>>>
>>But I still think its sick...
>>And I guess he's desperate too
>>- wonder how old he is! Yes I am being disapproving because I think
>>it's pathetic!
>That's how Gary Burnore met Belinda! He paid her trailer-trash
>parents to take her away with him. They didn't know he was just
>another heartland-hillbilly with a hard-on and no brains. He really
>_is_ a sex offender, you know. Not the pedophile kind - he porked
>some 15 year old lived in the double-wide next door, or something.
>You can look it up.
Humor: 2
Originality: 0
May 25th 2004, 12:39 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by soulsender
If I may be so bold we are also talking about a country (Thailand) where the parents of a 16 year old may want a better life for thier daughter in the states than what may be available in Thailand (from what I've heard).
and for the record my fiance is my age (which is nobodys biz except to say well over the age of consent) thank you very much.
If I may be so bold we are also talking about a country (Thailand) where the parents of a 16 year old may want a better life for thier daughter in the states than what may be available in Thailand (from what I've heard).
and for the record my fiance is my age (which is nobodys biz except to say well over the age of consent) thank you very much.
One can look up the user name of "december" from 1998 or 1999 for a case where a female from Canada was going for the K-1 so she could marry her Texas based fiancee. Her single mother gave written permission, she got the K-1, went to Texas, married and had kids and last I heard was filing for removal of conditions. So not every young person comes from a under privileged or third world nation. BTW her real name was December. Mom was a good Catholic from Quebec and ran out of names for her many children.
Rete
May 25th 2004, 2:01 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
ray6 wrote:
> Minimum Age Requirement for the US Citizen Petitioner
>
> There is no
> minimum age to file an immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration.
> However, the US citizen petitioner must be at least 18 years old and
> reside in the US before he or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and
> this form is required for an immigrant visa for spouses and other
> relatives of US sponsors.
>
> But I still think its sick...
>
What would be sick about an 18 or 19 year old falling in love with a 16
1/2 year old?
> Minimum Age Requirement for the US Citizen Petitioner
>
> There is no
> minimum age to file an immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration.
> However, the US citizen petitioner must be at least 18 years old and
> reside in the US before he or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and
> this form is required for an immigrant visa for spouses and other
> relatives of US sponsors.
>
> But I still think its sick...
>
What would be sick about an 18 or 19 year old falling in love with a 16
1/2 year old?
May 25th 2004, 2:57 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by Mrtravelkay
ray6 wrote:
> Minimum Age Requirement for the US Citizen Petitioner
>
> There is no
> minimum age to file an immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration.
> However, the US citizen petitioner must be at least 18 years old and
> reside in the US before he or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and
> this form is required for an immigrant visa for spouses and other
> relatives of US sponsors.
>
> But I still think its sick...
>
What would be sick about an 18 or 19 year old falling in love with a 16
1/2 year old?
ray6 wrote:
> Minimum Age Requirement for the US Citizen Petitioner
>
> There is no
> minimum age to file an immigrant petition for a spouse for immigration.
> However, the US citizen petitioner must be at least 18 years old and
> reside in the US before he or she can sign the Affidavit of Support and
> this form is required for an immigrant visa for spouses and other
> relatives of US sponsors.
>
> But I still think its sick...
>
What would be sick about an 18 or 19 year old falling in love with a 16
1/2 year old?
May 25th 2004, 8:19 pm
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Why is everyone so judgemental before we don't even have all facts?
Yes, the OP could VERY WELL be 18 or something. We just don't know.
Yes, the OP could VERY WELL be 18 or something. We just don't know.
May 26th 2004, 12:21 am
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Re: Fiance Visa for 16 yr old Thai?
Originally posted by Ranjini
True. We don't even know how old the OP is...
True. We don't even know how old the OP is...
