Ryan

I research things to death and feel comfortable with the I-129F process.

I believe I have everything ready to go except for one thing:

"FC-029 statement about truth and accuracy of photocopies"

The www.INS.gov search I did using FC-029 didn't find anything and I never
read of it in the instructions.

A google has also not directed me to a PDF or web site either.

Does anyone know the link or where I can get this? Or do I just type up a
personal document to the effect and sign it?

Thanks. Ryan

Shaun Su

Ryan,

Try this one:
www.weslow.net/users/alixtcat/forms/pdf/FC-029.pdf


"Ryan" wrote in message
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    > I research things to death and feel comfortable with the I-129F process.
    > I believe I have everything ready to go except for one thing:
    > "FC-029 statement about truth and accuracy of photocopies"
    > The www.INS.gov search I did using FC-029 didn't find anything and I
never
    > read of it in the instructions.
    > A google has also not directed me to a PDF or web site either.
    > Does anyone know the link or where I can get this? Or do I just type up a
    > personal document to the effect and sign it?
    > Thanks. Ryan

Folinskyinla

Hi:

This FC-029 question is often asked. It is NOT required as a general rule -- but it can't hurt submitting it. The "FC" in the form number indicates that its some type of local form, but I can't figure out from where [e.g. here in LA, the various optional local forms will have an "LOS" at the bottom.

Lennybruce

I thought you were a specialist and knew about immigration. The FC-029 is not a local form but is sent with the I-129 package and it is a little pink piece of paper. I think you need to need to know what you are talking about before giving bad answers as you do so often.
Lenny

Folinskyinla

Hi:

Be nice.

Take a look at Parts 299 and 499 of the Title 8 of the Code of Federal Regulations [CFR]. Those parts list all of the official forms and the FC-029 is not one of them.

Until about 10 years ago, INS regulations did require the filing of orignals, but allowed for attorneys and and "accredited representatives" to certify copies. 8 CFR 204.2 (1992 edition). All of us practicing immigration law had our little certification stamps with the required information. As part of the information required was my address, I have not used my old stamp once I moved and the certification was no longer required.

Take a look at current 8 CFR 103.2(b)(4) which specifies which documents must be submitted in original but otherwise allowing "an ordinary legibile photocopy may be submitted." Unlike the old regulations, the current regulations are silent as to any certification.

As I said, there is no harm in submitting the FC-209, but it is not required. Look it up.

Lennybruce

Again you are wrong, I said nothing about it being required What I said is that you were wrong about it being a local form when it comes from INS with the I-129 package. You need to go back to school to learn how to read and then find out what forms come from INS and which ones are used for what.
Lenny B.

Folinskyinla

Hi:

BTW, forms packets come from LOCAL regional offices of the INS. I posed this question to a colleague last night and he pulled out a similar form which had been generated by the Californa Service Center back when it was known as the Western Service Center -- it had identical language but was on INS letterhead and has a "WSC-xxx" notation at the bottom.

Out of curiosity, which office of the INS did you get the packet.

Also posted last month on this NG look at : http://britishexpats.com/forum/t120087.html


Also, take a look at 8 CFR 103.2(b)(2) which states that you signature on the petition is an attestation that the information on the form "and all evidence submitted with it, either at the time of filing or htereafter, is tre and correct."

To repeat, putting the form doesn't hurt. However, people should NOT panic if they don't -- it is NOT required.

Lyle

Folinskyinla wrote in message > Hi:
    >
    > BTW, forms packets come from LOCAL regional offices of the INS. I posed
    > this question to a colleague last night and he pulled out a similar form
    > which had been generated by the Californa Service Center back when it
    > was known as the Western Service Center -- it had identical language but
    > was on INS letterhead and has a "WSC-xxx" notation at the bottom.
    >
    > Out of curiosity, which office of the INS did you get the packet.
    >

When I got the forms from the dreaded TSC last month, it was listed as
"FC-023" and was printed on the backside of the sheet that had the
form fee. I didn't even see it the first 2-3 times I looked at the
forms.

Brad
(form sent 1-3-03; not even a 1 NOA yet )

Folinskyinla

Hi:

This string has made me curious. The powers that be have always been been screwing around with management trying to fix things and usually suceeding in mucking up the works and Homeland Security ain't even a reality yet. Sigh.

But I looked into the organizational regulations and there is now a "National Forms Center" and I guess that "FC" might be a refernce to that. However, in digging round, I also found the following adivce on the INS's own bloody website:

"* The INS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions and applications.

At the discretion of the officer, original documents may still be required in individual cases. Please be advised that the INS no longer returns original documents submitted with the exception of Certificates of Naturalization, Forms I-551, Permanent Resident Card, Forms I-94, Arrival/Departure Document, valid passports, or those specifically requested by the officer. Such documents will be returned when they are no longer needed.
"

This is consistent with the regulations I cited. I really liked the INS's recommendations -- they recommend the way I do it!

It looks like that I was wrong in where the forms now come from -- however there are other parts of the regulations which refer to regional form distributions.

Since I subscribe to a service which provides database manamgement combined with forms, I haven't gotten a form from the INS in years.

However, I will be eternally greatful if anybody can find a copy of the form I-508.

L D Jones

Folinskyinla wrote:
    >
[ FC-029 discussion ]

    > But I looked into the organizational regulations and there is now a
    > "National Forms Center" and I guess that "FC" might be a refernce to
    > that. However, in digging round, I also found the following adivce on
    > the INS's own bloody website:
    >
    > "* The INS no longer routinely requires submission of original documents
    > or "certified copies." Instead, ordinary legible photocopies of such
    > documents (including naturalization certificates and alien registration
    > cards) will be acceptable for initial filing and approval of petitions
    > and applications.

Do you have the URL for that? It would be helpful to post it

Lennybruce

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Folinskyinla
Hi:

Out of curiosity, which office of the INS did you get the packet.

I received mine from the INS website so I assume it came from Washington. Thank you for admitting that you were mistaken about the form now if only you will stop giving bad info on the need for a EAD card to work.
Lenny B.

Folinskyinla

Hi:

Sorry, but I didn't note it. However, I started out in www.usdoj.gov/ins and started surfing from there.