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Old Oct 31st 2004, 1:13 am
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My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
wage by it.

Is he considered self employed or employed?

The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
category he will fall into.

Anyone got any idea?
 
Old Oct 31st 2004, 3:45 am
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Originally Posted by His princess
My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
wage by it.

Is he considered self employed or employed?

The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
category he will fall into.

Anyone got any idea?
You're still at it? I saw your thread in Visajourney. You're one piece of work.

I suggest you type google.com on your browser and type "what is a corporation" (don't forget to include the quotes). I'm sure you'll find the answer.

Good luck!
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Originally Posted by His princess
My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
wage by it.

Is he considered self employed or employed?

The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
category he will fall into.

Anyone got any idea?
Hi:

You don't give enough facts to answer the question. You must give ALL of the ways he makes bucks by his daily toil. On what facts do you think that he may be self-employed? You don't say.

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Old Oct 31st 2004, 4:54 am
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Anyone got any idea?
Are you really this stupid? Why dont you read all the other answers in the all the other posts that you have going? DUHHH!

Get a life.
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I've read your posts here and on Visa Journey. Your husband seems to be most likely Employed. It's not that hard. He's an employee. Have him gather all his tax returns, W-2s, and send them in. If your interview is coming up soon, that would mean most likely years 2001, 2002, and 2003. Or, if only one year is required, then just 2003. If your interview will be sometime next year, he will need 2004's returns. if he hasn't filed yet for any of the years he's required to show, have him file NOW and at least show he's filed. Or if he's asked for an extension, have him show proof of that.

It's really not difficult. If he simply does not want to file for any year that he's missing, then the best you can do is have him write an explanation why he did not, and submit that. Submit what you have, and go from there, but be aware the consulate has the right to request information, and it may delay your case if he's lacking something they need.

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Old Oct 31st 2004, 2:13 pm
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His princess wrote:
    > My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
    > corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
    > Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
    > of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
    > wage by it.
    >
    > Is he considered self employed or employed?
    >
    > The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
    > category he will fall into.
    >
    > Anyone got any idea?

IT'S SIMPLE..

The corporation hired him.
The corporation pays him.

It doesn't matter who "owns" the corporation. The fact that he might own
all of the corporation doesn't change anything... How many times do you
need to be told this?

Doesn't he know this? How did he decide to form a corporation in the
first place if he doesn't the basic issues? For instance, if he did
shoddy repair work, then the corporation would be liable, not him.
 
Old Nov 1st 2004, 3:21 am
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anon <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .com>...
    > His princess wrote:
    > > My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
    > > corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
    > > Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
    > > of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
    > > wage by it.
    > >
    > > Is he considered self employed or employed?
    > >
    > > The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
    > > category he will fall into.
    > >
    > > Anyone got any idea?
    >
    > IT'S SIMPLE..
    >
    > The corporation hired him.
    > The corporation pays him.
    >
    > It doesn't matter who "owns" the corporation. The fact that he might own
    > all of the corporation doesn't change anything... How many times do you
    > need to be told this?
    >
    > Doesn't he know this? How did he decide to form a corporation in the
    > first place if he doesn't the basic issues? For instance, if he did
    > shoddy repair work, then the corporation would be liable, not him.



I would think once clearly is enough to be told thank you. Is it my
fault I dont understand how corporations work? He said he is employed
by the corporation it was ME who was worried and confused. Is it not
better to bring it to forum to put minds at rest - afterall that is
one of the basic reasons for the forum to help people fill in forms
and put minds at rest!
 
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Originally Posted by His princess
Is it not better to bring it to forum to put minds at rest - afterall that is one of the basic reasons for the forum to help people fill in forms and put minds at rest!
Yes it is. Until you decide to bite the hand that feeds you. Here's what you wrote when I tried to help you understand the error of your ways (i.e. the fact that future hubby hasn't filed his income taxes and doesn't plan to anytime soon).

(1) "The forums are always friendly and everyone helps one another you obviously are not a good person but thats your choice to be that way"

(2) "Perhaps it is you who needs to do some reading???"

(3) "Not going to allow you to get to me i come here to ask and to help nice people not people like you so please leave me alone"

I go out of my way to help you and then you come back with this crap. As I said previously, good luck trying to adjust status with your I-864 in the US when future hubby refuses to file income taxes. Regardless of whether your master needs it for his I-134 is irrelevant. It will catch up with you sooner or later, my fair princess. I guess you have been collared. Perhaps your motto is "Try try again until I get the answer I want no matter how many people tell me the *real* answer".
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Is he considered self employed or employed?
YES - HE IS SELF-EMPLOYED. Isnt' that the answer you were looking for? Correct or not, there it is, so now you can go tell your husband, the accountant, the USCIS, and the IRS, how wrong they are. Maybe if you tell them enough times, then they will finally agree with you also. Have fun! Dont forget to come back and let us know how it all worked out!

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Old Nov 1st 2004, 10:44 am
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anon <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .com>...
    > His princess wrote:
    > > My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
    > > corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
    > > Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
    > > of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
    > > wage by it.
    > >
    > > Is he considered self employed or employed?
    > >
    > > The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
    > > category he will fall into.
    > >
    > > Anyone got any idea?
    >
    > IT'S SIMPLE..
    >
    > The corporation hired him.
    > The corporation pays him.
    >
    > It doesn't matter who "owns" the corporation. The fact that he might own
    > all of the corporation doesn't change anything... How many times do you
    > need to be told this?
    >
    > Doesn't he know this? How did he decide to form a corporation in the
    > first place if he doesn't the basic issues? For instance, if he did
    > shoddy repair work, then the corporation would be liable, not him.





Yep I probably am that stupid thanks for reminding me! If you read
the post in visajourney you will also see that others are confused
also some thing employed some think not so perhaps I am not stupid on
my own. I am trying my best to understand it all its not my fault i
am as you say that stupid. Its me who is panicking he says not to all
is fine. The IRS say he is employed and funny enough they didnt seem
to think i was stupid at all!!!!!

It isnt wrong to have your mind put at ease you know

Rene thanks btw
 
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Originally Posted by His princess
Yep I probably am that stupid thanks for reminding me! If you read
the post in visajourney you will also see that others are confused
also some thing employed some think not so perhaps I am not stupid on
my own. I am trying my best to understand it all its not my fault i
am as you say that stupid. Its me who is panicking he says not to all
is fine. The IRS say he is employed and funny enough they didnt seem
to think i was stupid at all!!!!!

It isnt wrong to have your mind put at ease you know

Rene thanks btw
It would appear that you have bigger problems then deciding he if he is employed or owner. You state he has not filed income tax returns and now you are saying IRS said he is employed. Well did he or didn't file returns? If not, and you are using the London US Consulate, you are going to need three years of tax returns from him regardless of his employment status. It is one of their quirky requirements for the interview and is separate from the I-134 which does not require tax returns if you are employed and not a self-employed sponsor.

Also this tax return issue will come up for the I-864 after you marry.

My personal feelings about people playing fast and loose with the IRS are meaningless to your situation, but one that might make you consider what else he is holding off doing that might be detrimental to your financial lives together.

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Originally Posted by His princess
Yep I probably am that stupid... its not my fault i am as you say that stupid...
Geez, I'm glad you said this. If I had said it, someone would likely jump down my throat for expressing an opinion!

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Originally Posted by His princess
Yep I probably am that stupid thanks for reminding me! If you read the post in visajourney you will also see that others are confused
also some thing employed some think not so perhaps I am not stupid on
my own. I am trying my best to understand it all its not my fault i
am as you say that stupid. Its me who is panicking he says not to all
is fine. The IRS say he is employed and funny enough they didnt seem
to think i was stupid at all!!!!!
The reason i ask if you were stupid is because you have posted at least 3 different posts that i know of, all with the same question. People answer you and then you completely ignore (or insult) them and ask again.

And maybe if you had ask the same IRS person that same question 2 more times after they already answered you, then i am betting that they would indeed think you were stupid. Especially if you were as rude to them as you were to Sphy.

What comes around goes around.

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His princess wrote:
    > anon <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected] .com>...
    >
    >>His princess wrote:
    >>>My us fiance is working on the I-134 and is president/ceo of his
    >>>corporation which is a dealership working with clean water systems.
    >>>Not alone does he hold this title being that he owns 51% of the shares
    >>>of the corporation, he also works for his corporation so is paid a
    >>>wage by it.
    >>>Is he considered self employed or employed?
    >>>The corporation started around april/may so we arent sure which
    >>>category he will fall into.
    >>>Anyone got any idea?
    >>IT'S SIMPLE..
    >>The corporation hired him.
    >>The corporation pays him.
    >>It doesn't matter who "owns" the corporation. The fact that he might own
    >>all of the corporation doesn't change anything... How many times do you
    >>need to be told this?
    >>Doesn't he know this? How did he decide to form a corporation in the
    >>first place if he doesn't the basic issues? For instance, if he did
    >>shoddy repair work, then the corporation would be liable, not him.
    >
    >
    > Yep I probably am that stupid thanks for reminding me!

Did I ever say you were stupid?
He is the one that should know if he is an employee or not.
I would think that someone who filed paperwork for incorporation would
know why he did it.


If you read
    > the post in visajourney you will also see that others are confused
    > also some thing employed some think not so perhaps I am not stupid on
    > my own. I am trying my best to understand it all its not my fault i
    > am as you say that stupid. Its me who is panicking he says not to all
    > is fine. The IRS say he is employed and funny enough they didnt seem
    > to think i was stupid at all!!!!!
    >
    > It isnt wrong to have your mind put at ease you know

It is wrong to ask the same question over and over and over and
over............ BTW, don't always trust answers you get from IRS.
Call them over and over, and I am sure you will get a different answer.

To me, this sounds like he isn't filing the correct paperwork.
1. Did he officially incorporate, or is he just saying it is a corporation?
2. In what state is it incorporated in?
3. Does he file the correct tax forms?
4. Does his corporation pay him?
5. Does he get a W-2?
 
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USA & Pakistan wrote:

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    > The reason i ask if you were stupid is because you have posted at
    > least 3 different posts that i know of, all with the same question.
    > People answer you and then you completely ignore (or insult) them and
    > ask again.

Not only that, but they respond to my post as if I had called them
stupid... That confused me until I read this post. It seems odd that
they followed up to my post with remarks meant for you. :)

At this point, I am wondering if he is really incorporated or just told
her that.
 


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