Divorce before conditional green card
#31
Re: Divorce before conditional green card
Had you told the truth at the interview, that the information as at the time of application had changed, i.e married in November 2019 and separated by August 2020 you would NOT have received your 2 year green card. Has all the aspects of visa fraud.
Think you will need a good lawyer - one who can 'sell' your situation.....
Think you will need a good lawyer - one who can 'sell' your situation.....
#32
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Based upon OP’s description I would NOT describe it as “fraud.”
They presented themselves as a couple. Had the officer known they were not, he might well have reached a different decision on the AOS petition.
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
Really...? Your application for the green card is based on you marrying a US citizen, and by the time of the interview you have already separated and one of the couple has a new partner? However, you don't provide this new info so that the non US citizen can get the green card and remain in the country.
Sure sounds like visa fraud to me ....... even if you married in good faith that situation is now certainly not the case. The OP was only able to remain in the US because her ex was complicit in the deception.
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
According to Matter of Sesay, someone adjusting from K1 (i.e. married within 90 days of entry on K1) can have AOS approved even after they have divorced. So I would not say that the fact that they have separated by the time of the interview would have necessarily caused their green card to be denied.
#35
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According to Matter of Sesay, someone adjusting from K1 (i.e. married within 90 days of entry on K1) can have AOS approved even after they have divorced. So I would not say that the fact that they have separated by the time of the interview would have necessarily caused their green card to be denied.
Yes, she might well have been approved had they told the truth, but they didn't.
It's the presentation of a failed marriage as a currently successful one that is the problem. It's a material misrepresentation, and could cause serious problems down the line.
#36
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
You're missing the point.
Yes, she might well have been approved had they told the truth, but they didn't.
It's the presentation of a failed marriage as a currently successful one that is the problem. It's a material misrepresentation, and could cause serious problems down the line.
Yes, she might well have been approved had they told the truth, but they didn't.
It's the presentation of a failed marriage as a currently successful one that is the problem. It's a material misrepresentation, and could cause serious problems down the line.
Also, the fact that they both went to the interview doesn't mean that they represented that the marriage is successful; only that they are still married. It seems from the OP's post that the officer didn't ask many questions about the marriage.
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
The only reason the US citizen was at the interview was to mislead the interviewer into thinking the marriage was continuing so that the applicant could remain in the US. The applicant had no other reason for being allowed to stay.
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
The sponsor had signed the I 864, had not withdrawn the I 864.
I have heard of Sponsors seemingly willing to do this even in such circumstances, I assume it is pretty rare.
I have heard of Sponsors seemingly willing to do this even in such circumstances, I assume it is pretty rare.
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Good luck getting any support from this guy then .....
#40
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
That would be a matter for the Divorce Lawyer.
#41
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If they were not legally separated, then they were still viably married. They shared the same household. So he had a girlfriend. Big deal. Many people have open marriages and many married men will stray.
The interesting time will be when she attempts to remove conditions from the green card after the divorce is final. An astute examiner will see that divorce was filed almost immediately upon acceptance for residency. Might she have to explain that?
#42
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
She would file with a divorce waiver, presumably has BF as a back up, in fact she can file to remove conditions as soon as divorce finalised.
Back to showing marriage was in good faith, not all are interviewed.
Back to showing marriage was in good faith, not all are interviewed.
#43
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Yes, I'm aware of that. My assertion is still the same regardless of when she files for removal of conditions.
#44
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
Considering the US spouse is the sponsor for the application and commits to certain financial obligations I would say that if the ECO had known that the couple sitting in from of them had actually separated and that US citizen had no intention of supporting the applicant from that point forward and that their so called bona fide marriage was all over, yes, I think the state of the marriage at time of interview IS material.
The only reason the US citizen was at the interview was to mislead the interviewer into thinking the marriage was continuing so that the applicant could remain in the US. The applicant had no other reason for being allowed to stay.
The only reason the US citizen was at the interview was to mislead the interviewer into thinking the marriage was continuing so that the applicant could remain in the US. The applicant had no other reason for being allowed to stay.
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Re: Divorce before conditional green card
Even if the OP were divorced, their AOS, based on marriage on K1 within 90 days of entry, can still be approved and they can be allowed to stay. What matters is that they entered into a bona fide marriage within 90 days of entry on K1. So why would it be necessary to make the interviewer think that the marriage was continuing?
Marriage of convenience, yes.