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Old Oct 23rd 2009, 1:22 pm
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by leopards
But why require any sort of biometrics for the EAD? If it is certain once the 485 is correctly filed then why spend the extra time putting it into a card. Either way and it's still 100% certain. Why waste that time? And by resources I mean the staff that have to check the EAD/AP and put the bio into the card which is a guarantee. Why not use those resources (staff) on cases that are less certain. If I don't have to spend $1 more than necessary I don't say to vendors "hey I know I've bought this and it's certainly mine but I'll spend more on it anyway." It doesn't make logic sense does it.
IT IS NOT A SET OF BIOMETRICS FOR THE EAD

Why can't you understand that.

Biometrics is all ten fingerprints for security clearance.

For the EAD it is one (1) fingerprint and a photo.

I quit ... you have this idea in your head and won't let go of it ;-)

Sorry you have to wait for your EAD but that life's for an immigrant to the US. Hell it could be Canada and you don't even get the option of an EAD to work but have to wait for sometimes years for your spousal visa to be approved while you sit at home doing nothing.
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Old Oct 23rd 2009, 1:25 pm
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by Noorah101
Oh, I see. So you're saying when you go in to do the EAD biometrics, why can't they just produce the card on the spot for you, like they do at DMV?

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NYS DMV does NOT issue a driver's license with photo the same day you apply and take the photo for the license. You have to wait for 10 to 30 days for the license to come in the mail.
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NYS DMV does NOT issue a driver's license with photo the same day you apply and take the photo for the license. You have to wait for 10 to 30 days for the license to come in the mail.
CA doesn't either. I was just still trying to figure out what leopards wants.
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by Noorah101
CA doesn't either. I was just still trying to figure out what leopards wants.
Well in FL, GA, and CT 3 states I've lived in it is the same day. So in my experience a government issued ID that isn't attached to a government employer is quick and efficient.
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Originally Posted by leopards
Well in FL, GA, and CT 3 states I've lived in it is the same day. So in my experience a government issued ID that isn't attached to a government employer is quick and efficient.
How about one that's attached to an I-485?
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by Noorah101
How about one that's attached to an I-485?
But the EAD/AP is certain. A driver's license requires a paper test, eye exam, and a road test. That's 3 elements to get a driver's licenese. The EAD/AP is dependent on a completed AOS. So logically if the AOS is done right the process should take hardly any time to approve.
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Originally Posted by leopards
But the EAD/AP is certain. A driver's license requires a paper test, eye exam, and a road test. That's 3 elements to get a driver's licenese. The EAD/AP is dependent on a completed AOS. So logically if the AOS is done right the process should take hardly any time to approve.
The drivers license IS certain...IF you pass the tests.

The EAD IS certain...IF you have a correctly filed I-485.

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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by Noorah101
The drivers license IS certain...IF you pass the tests.

The EAD IS certain...IF you have a correctly filed I-485.

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Excellent point and if both are certain once the tests are passed then why would it take more than a month as you yourself said to get a government issued ID. Both are certain.
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by leopards
Excellent point and if both are certain once the tests are passed then why would it take more than a month as you yourself said to get a government issued ID. Both are certain.
Because DMV only has a roomful of people to deal with at one time.

USCIS has only ONE processing center for the entire nation.

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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by Noorah101
Because DMV only has a roomful of people to deal with at one time.

USCIS has only ONE processing center for the entire nation.

Rene
Another good point, however, is it still certain, and because it is certain it should be quick, right? You mentioned earlier about a 30 day AP which as you know is not the norm. The average is 60 days so why the delay on a certainty even if it is only one center the fact remains a certainty cannot be anything other than certain. So logically it should be universal for everyone to get a less than 30 days EAD/AP and not the average of 60-90 days.
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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by leopards
... because it is certain it should be quick, right?
It's not. Deal with it.

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Default Re: The Role of Biometrics

Originally Posted by ian-mstm
It's not. Deal with it.

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I have "dealt" with it, and if you were paying attention to a recent thread I made you would know where I am in "dealing with it." Still the logic behind anything other than a 30 day or less EAD/AP approval seems to be inefficient.
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My opinion on this is: they are inefficient for 2 reasons: first is obvious, they are government organization (no competition or incentive to be faster (for the employees)), but second is more important: their clients do not vote. If you could vote and your senator said "Oh and by the way I am going to lobby congress to reduce the time of processing any immigration application by 50%, would be a strong incentive for you to vote for him, right?" But there is no big incentive for that in the government: most Americans could care less.

Since, no one "hears" you technically, it is just not a priority.

I feel when you pay that much money for your application they should be faster, but they seem to be improving...
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l,

I don't think they are either "automatic" or "guaranteed". Recognize that people other than adjustment applicants also submit I-765 for EA and I-131 for travel documents including types other than AP.

An I-485 applicant's I-765 or I-131 may require less examination than others, but they do get handled by the same group(s) as handles the others, not by the I-485 processers.

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Yes, but still if the EAD/AP is automatic why spend months processing then when they are guaranteed?
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l,

I don't think they are either "automatic" or "guaranteed". Recognize that people other than adjustment applicants also submit I-765 for EA and I-131 for travel documents including types other than AP.

An I-485 applicant's I-765 or I-131 may require less examination than others, but they do get handled by the same group(s) as handles the others, not by the I-485 processers.

Regards, JEff
So what you're saying jeff is the EAD/AP are not guaranteed. But others have said as long as you have a completed 485 then it's certain.
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