Go Back  British Expats > Living & Moving Abroad > USA > Marriage Based Visas
Reload this Page >

Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Wikiposts

Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Thread Tools
 
Old Mar 29th 2010, 6:58 am
  #1  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5
dchand79 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Hello all,

My kiddo is in USA in K-4 status. I am a naturalized US citizen(working and residing in US for last 10yrs), and my kiddo was born a few months before I became a citizen and hence not a US citizen by default.

One of my options for my kid to be an US citizen is to apply for AOS (I-485) as she already as 130 approved(as the day my kid becomes a permenant resident she becomes a citizen).

I am just wondering if instead of doing AOS if I can directly file for N600K. The instructions say as long as my kid is in valid non-immigrant status i should be able to file for N600K but i wanted to make sure I can file N600K now that my kid is living with me on K4 visa in USA. I am preferring this approach becoz it is cheaper and I can also get the certificate of citizenship without paying extra.

Regards.
dchand79 is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 7:23 am
  #2  
Passport Collector
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 725
dreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

N600K applies to those US citizens that live abroad. You should file an I-485 for your "kiddo."


Originally Posted by dchand79
Hello all,

My kiddo is in USA in K-4 status. I am a naturalized US citizen(working and residing in US for last 10yrs), and my kiddo was born a few months before I became a citizen and hence not a US citizen by default.

One of my options for my kid to be an US citizen is to apply for AOS (I-485) as she already as 130 approved(as the day my kid becomes a permenant resident she becomes a citizen).

I am just wondering if instead of doing AOS if I can directly file for N600K. The instructions say as long as my kid is in valid non-immigrant status i should be able to file for N600K but i wanted to make sure I can file N600K now that my kid is living with me on K4 visa in USA. I am preferring this approach becoz it is cheaper and I can also get the certificate of citizenship without paying extra.

Regards.
dreamercon is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 7:57 am
  #3  
 
meauxna's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 35,082
meauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

And what about your K-3 spouse?
I think there's a discount for filing the 2 AOSs together.
meauxna is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 8:48 am
  #4  
BE Commentator
 
S Folinsky's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 8,474
S Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Originally Posted by dchand79
Hello all,

My kiddo is in USA in K-4 status. I am a naturalized US citizen(working and residing in US for last 10yrs), and my kiddo was born a few months before I became a citizen and hence not a US citizen by default.

One of my options for my kid to be an US citizen is to apply for AOS (I-485) as she already as 130 approved(as the day my kid becomes a permenant resident she becomes a citizen).

I am just wondering if instead of doing AOS if I can directly file for N600K. The instructions say as long as my kid is in valid non-immigrant status i should be able to file for N600K but i wanted to make sure I can file N600K now that my kid is living with me on K4 visa in USA. I am preferring this approach becoz it is cheaper and I can also get the certificate of citizenship without paying extra.

Regards.
Comment: Your question is a good one.

Observation: This may be one of those cases where a consultation with an immigration lawyer may be an EXCELLENT idea.

No advice given nor intended.
S Folinsky is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 9:20 am
  #5  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5
dchand79 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Thank you for the replies. FOr my wife on K-3 i will be doing an AOS and if I cannot file for N600K i would be concurrently doing an AOS for my child too. It looks like I will be paying only $600 if I file concurrently with my wife's AOS.

The only reason i am confused is because the N600K doesnt say anything about the US citizen parent to be living primarily out of USA. Section 322 only talks about the child being in legal status. I probably will just do an AOS but just found it interesting when i read about N600K.
dchand79 is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 9:25 am
  #6  
 
meauxna's Avatar
 
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 35,082
meauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond reputemeauxna has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Originally Posted by dchand79
Thank you for the replies. FOr my wife on K-3 i will be doing an AOS and if I cannot file for N600K i would be concurrently doing an AOS for my child too. It looks like I will be paying only $600 if I file concurrently with my wife's AOS.

The only reason i am confused is because the N600K doesnt say anything about the US citizen parent to be living primarily out of USA. Section 322 only talks about the child being in legal status. I probably will just do an AOS but just found it interesting when i read about N600K.
The form download page says, at the top:

Application for Citizenship and Issuance of Certificate under Section 322

Purpose of Form :
For a child who regularly resides abroad to claim U.S. citizenship based on parentage.

The form instructions say:

Who May Use Form N-600K?
The following individuals may use this form:

1. A U.S. citizen parent seeking citizenship on behalf of a minor adopted or biological child under section 322 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA) (providing for citizenship through an application process for biological and adopted children who regularly reside outside of the United States and meet certain conditions while under the age of 18 years).
meauxna is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 9:36 am
  #7  
Passport Collector
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 725
dreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Did you really read INA 322? I have it in front of me and INA 322(a)(4) says:

"The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the applicant (or, if the citizen parent is deceased, an individual who does not object to the application). "

If you choose to do your own research and go against the flow, at least do it carefully!

Originally Posted by dchand79
Thank you for the replies. FOr my wife on K-3 i will be doing an AOS and if I cannot file for N600K i would be concurrently doing an AOS for my child too. It looks like I will be paying only $600 if I file concurrently with my wife's AOS.

The only reason i am confused is because the N600K doesnt say anything about the US citizen parent to be living primarily out of USA. Section 322 only talks about the child being in legal status. I probably will just do an AOS but just found it interesting when i read about N600K.
dreamercon is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 9:59 am
  #8  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5
dchand79 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

You are right. The child should reside out of USA but ALSO should maintain legal status in USA. The legal status is a requirement. And thats what is the source of confusion. Becoz K4 is a NON-immigrant visa.

And when you say non-immigrant visa dont you mean your stay is temporary. So my whole question is K4 treated as being primarily resident out of USA.
dchand79 is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 10:04 am
  #9  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5
dchand79 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Originally Posted by dreamercon
Did you really read INA 322? I have it in front of me and INA 322(a)(4) says:

"The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the applicant (or, if the citizen parent is deceased, an individual who does not object to the application). "

If you choose to do your own research and go against the flow, at least do it carefully!
Before yelling at me you should perhaps read INA 322 carefully once again
Below is from INA 322(a)(2)(4) . "Temporarily present in the United States" is part that got me off since I am not clear on if K4 is considered being temporary.

(4) The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent, is temporarily present in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission, and is maintaining such lawful status.
dchand79 is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 10:50 am
  #10  
BE Commentator
 
S Folinsky's Avatar
 
Joined: Feb 2010
Location: Los Angeles, California
Posts: 8,474
S Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond reputeS Folinsky has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

Originally Posted by dchand79
Before yelling at me you should perhaps read INA 322 carefully once again
Below is from INA 322(a)(2)(4) . "Temporarily present in the United States" is part that got me off since I am not clear on if K4 is considered being temporary.

(4) The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent, is temporarily present in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission, and is maintaining such lawful status.
Observation: you ask excellent questions.

Further observation: no good advice by anybody can be given without proper and complete facts. It is a good idea to careful on the amount of fees. Failure to be careful can cost extra money.

This is a general comment only. No advice given nor intended.
S Folinsky is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 12:06 pm
  #11  
Passport Collector
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 725
dreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

A child in the legal and physical custody of a parent resides at the same place as that parent. Since you reside in the US, your child also resides in the US. Or, your child resides abroad but is not in your physical custody. In both of those cases though, INA 322 would be inapplicable.

Originally Posted by dchand79
Before yelling at me you should perhaps read INA 322 carefully once again
Below is from INA 322(a)(2)(4) . "Temporarily present in the United States" is part that got me off since I am not clear on if K4 is considered being temporary.

(4) The child is residing outside of the United States in the legal and physical custody of the citizen parent, is temporarily present in the United States pursuant to a lawful admission, and is maintaining such lawful status.

Last edited by dreamercon; Mar 29th 2010 at 12:09 pm.
dreamercon is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 1:32 pm
  #12  
Just Joined
Thread Starter
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5
dchand79 is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

I think i will do some research tonight on Westlaw and see if there is any Case Law on how courts interpreted Legal and Physical custody (if at all any). I probably wont go N600K route but I am now just curious on how this act has-been/might be interpreted.
dchand79 is offline  
Old Mar 29th 2010, 1:40 pm
  #13  
Passport Collector
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Location: Princeton, NJ
Posts: 725
dreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond reputedreamercon has a reputation beyond repute
Default Re: Can N600K be used for child in K4 status in USA

The Gallagher Immigration Law Service Treatise on westlaw talks about this on ยง 14:218.

Originally Posted by dchand79
I think i will do some research tonight on Westlaw and see if there is any Case Law on how courts interpreted Legal and Physical custody (if at all any). I probably wont go N600K route but I am now just curious on how this act has-been/might be interpreted.

Last edited by dreamercon; Mar 29th 2010 at 1:43 pm.
dreamercon is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Manage Preferences Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Your Privacy Choices -

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.