Can I just go over, marry and stay?
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So go over there, marry her, come back and apply for spouse immigrant visa?
If we're engaged right now I can apply for the fiance visa? What is the process of this and what the chances of not being given it?
Thanks Rene, its difficult. We were dating, and now ive come back we've broken up. We are now just friends so our lives can continue and shes has made a U-Turn as said she will marry me. Did you marry a USC?
If we're engaged right now I can apply for the fiance visa? What is the process of this and what the chances of not being given it?
Thanks Rene, its difficult. We were dating, and now ive come back we've broken up. We are now just friends so our lives can continue and shes has made a U-Turn as said she will marry me. Did you marry a USC?
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How badly does she want to marry you? Badly enough that she will sign a sponsorship form saying that she will support you potentially forever, and that if you claim any benefits from the US government then she can be sued for repayment?
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My husband is the American half of our marriage and boy do the USCIS make you jump, basically your life is in their hands and you have to abide by all their rules and regulations. We did all the immigration paperwork ourselves, you have to be very thorough, its pretty tough going and can be intimidating, but the USCIS do have to do their job. When my hubby and I were married, must of been for about 6 months, we were almost sure we were being followed by the men in suits, if not, thats how paranoid you get when going through the immigrations system, we knew we had and still have a bona fide marriage, but I am sure the USCIS have to check up, just in case. Anyway we have been married for 5 years this April and are blissfully happy.
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I know you probably meant this in relation to immigration, but realize that there are many reasons, other than love, that would compel a couple to marry... and none of them describe a fraudulent marriage.
Indeed, as far as USCIS is concerned, as long as the marriage is not solely for immigration benefit, there is no fraud... even if it's not for love. To quote Tina, "what's love got to do with it?"
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My husband is the American half of our marriage and boy do the USCIS make you jump, basically your life is in their hands and you have to abide by all their rules and regulations. We did all the immigration paperwork ourselves, you have to be very thorough, its pretty tough going and can be intimidating, but the USCIS do have to do their job. When my hubby and I were married, must of been for about 6 months, we were almost sure we were being followed by the men in suits, if not, thats how paranoid you get when going through the immigrations system, we knew we had and still have a bona fide marriage, but I am sure the USCIS have to check up, just in case. Anyway we have been married for 5 years this April and are blissfully happy. ![Thumbs Up](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
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I'm glad you have a happy marriage and that it's been five years now. I hope you have a lovely anniversary in April.
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There's no way I'd sign a form saying I could be sued for the repayment of someone else's benefits for the rest of their life for a mere $10k...
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http://www.law.fsu.edu/journals/lawr.../jonefram.html
...that states, according to the USCIS, approximately thirty percent of all marriage petitions involve marital fraud. Now, that sounds high to me, but it's all I can find right now. The actual percentage doesn't matter. Marital fraud, with the intent of gaining immigration benefits and nothing more, happens on a daily basis and very sadly, lots of sponsors can be "bought" for less than $5,000.
Signing the I-864 doesn't obligate you to support the intending immigrant for the rest of his/her life. It's until he/she becomes a citizen or is credited with forty quarters of work under the Social Security Act, I think, which is about ten years, or until he or she leaves the US, or becomes subject to removal proceedings in which he or she files a new petition requiring a new Affidavit of Support. (I might not have worded that last one correctly, but if I didn't, I'm sure someone will correct me.) But it's not the rest of someone's life.
I sponsored my own husband, of course, but we have a bona fide marriage and intend to build a life together for the rest of our lives. Nothing illegal there. No amount of money could induce me to do something illegal, but it's a fact of life that for many people, it can and does.
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Yes, they can certainly make you jump, Beth, and you do have to be thorough, and the paper work can be a real work out, but they really aren't looking for a way to deny bona fide marriages.
I'm glad you have a happy marriage and that it's been five years now. I hope you have a lovely anniversary in April.![Smile](https://britishexpats.com/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I'm glad you have a happy marriage and that it's been five years now. I hope you have a lovely anniversary in April.
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Thanks for your kind words, and I'm sure my hubby and I will do something wonderful in April, you take care now you hear
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Thanks, Beth. I'm glad your mountain or paper work went smoothly. The forms can be confusing. My husband and I didn't file until the fees increased. But that's okay. As long as the outcome is good, the fees don't matter to me.
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She joked that finding us picking out lamp shades and cushions together clearly showed we were genuine
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Yep it seemed loads as it was for the 3 of us, also my 3rd son, he's 18 now, came over Dec 06, it didn't work out with him staying with his Dad and his partner, so we filed for him, he went for his final interview before Christmas and now we are just waiting for his PR card to be approved, so like you want it to be a good outcome. My son is flourishing here and is so happy, he wishes he had decided to come over with me in the first place, but hey, there is always a reason why things happen, but at the end of the day he is here with us now and he knows he is wanted, needed and most importantly loved
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How long have you been in the system? I am sure everything will turn out wonderful for you and your hubby and your lives will be filled with so much happiness. Just seen your last post, see things happen for a reason, the lady that interviewed you has seen for herself that you are a typical married couple
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We started off filing in TX, I met my hubby when he lived in Nederland TX, but because we moved up to OK, had to transfer all out paperwork up here. I want to sit my USC test this June, thats when I qualify, bit nervous about the questions, but I did get around 80% correct from the test paper my hubby tested me on. Anyway Shana, you have my very best wishes and wonderful tbhoughts going your way. Take care girl
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