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deep breath and chill and do not get your tong's in a twist
list is short and stress is bad.. see www.realage.com
this is agreat site and can help you and others. I swear by it..
Peace
Julia aprofessional of many langauges ie lei vorrebe mangare
qualcose con me?
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Originally Posted by Retire to Italy
this is agreat site and can help you and others. I swear by it..
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Originally Posted by Retire to Italy
Julia a professional of many langauges
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Originally Posted by Retire to Italy
Jinney
deep breath and chill and do not get your tong's in a twist
list is short and stress is bad.. see www.realage.com
this is agreat site and can help you and others. I swear by it..
Peace
Julia aprofessional of many langauges ie lei vorrebe mangare
qualcose con me?
Jenney & Mark wrote:
> > I'm just amazed at how a site that ostensibly attracts people who want
> > to help others attracts so many snide and self-righteous responses.
> > Apparently, altruism is not so much the appeal of this site as is an
> > opportunity to feel superior and to heckle people who are scared,
> > uninformed, and desperate. It's sad that a resource that should bring
> > out the best in everyone is a repository for such mean-spiritedness.
> >
> > I'd like to reply to each of the people who contributed to this
> > thread: Jenney, Joe, Ian, Ray, and Carl
*snip*
deep breath and chill and do not get your tong's in a twist
list is short and stress is bad.. see www.realage.com
this is agreat site and can help you and others. I swear by it..
Peace
Julia aprofessional of many langauges ie lei vorrebe mangare
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Jenney & Mark wrote:
> > I'm just amazed at how a site that ostensibly attracts people who want
> > to help others attracts so many snide and self-righteous responses.
> > Apparently, altruism is not so much the appeal of this site as is an
> > opportunity to feel superior and to heckle people who are scared,
> > uninformed, and desperate. It's sad that a resource that should bring
> > out the best in everyone is a repository for such mean-spiritedness.
> >
> > I'd like to reply to each of the people who contributed to this
> > thread: Jenney, Joe, Ian, Ray, and Carl
*snip*
Jeolia,
Henceforth and by declaration you apear to need to shutteth your mouth and lernto read correctly. Your vacant expression is misdirected, as I was not the author of that which you quoteth. One can only infer that your eyes misread "J J" for "Jenney & Mark" as no other explanation can be satisfactory herein. Do not fret, my list is restful and full of peace, notwithstanding and, again, herein. And also therein, but that is obvious.
Go forth and rollaround in our glorious shores and soil thyself therein and henceforth shout up at the heavens, "I AM JEOLIA!" and behold what happens next...
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
Jeolia,
Henceforth and by declaration you apear to need to shutteth your mouth and lernto read correctly. Your vacant expression is misdirected, as I was not the author of that which you quoteth. One can only infer that your eyes misread "J J" for "Jenney & Mark" as no other explanation can be satisfactory herein. Do not fret, my list is restful and full of peace, notwithstanding and, again, herein. And also therein, but that is obvious.
Go forth and rollaround in our glorious shores and soil thyself therein and henceforth shout up at the heavens, "I AM JEOLIA!" and behold what happens next...
~ Jenney
Henceforth and by declaration you apear to need to shutteth your mouth and lernto read correctly. Your vacant expression is misdirected, as I was not the author of that which you quoteth. One can only infer that your eyes misread "J J" for "Jenney & Mark" as no other explanation can be satisfactory herein. Do not fret, my list is restful and full of peace, notwithstanding and, again, herein. And also therein, but that is obvious.
Go forth and rollaround in our glorious shores and soil thyself therein and henceforth shout up at the heavens, "I AM JEOLIA!" and behold what happens next...
~ Jenney
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Originally Posted by ian-mstm
What I find amusing, since you mention it, is that people will post here long after they've done something... and then make inquiries as to what they *should* have done. Very few such posters have taken even the slightest interest in securing information *beforehand* about their immigration status which, I'm sure you'll agree, would seem to be a pretty big deal with respect to living in a foreign country. These people then turn to this forum for answers on how best to fix the problems that they themselves created... answers that should come only from the mouth of an experienced immigration attorney. I have to wonder what goes through their mind. Do such people understand that almost everyone who reads and posts to this forum is not a lawyer? Why, I wonder, do they think that a bunch of lay persons can offer them a definitive course of action for their problem? And then the big question... are they not smart enough to know that they should have contacted an attorney as soon as they realized there might be an issue? But wait, you might say... perhaps they can't afford an attorney. To that response, I say bullshit. There are many charitable services that offer free legal advice including free immigration advice.
What it all boils down to, is that these people are basically lazy. They want someone else to fix their problems. They want information to be spoon fed to them rather than do any research on their own. Why? Because it is much easier to blame someone else if something goes wrong... which, ultimately, it does. By and large, people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions... or inactions.
Ian
What it all boils down to, is that these people are basically lazy. They want someone else to fix their problems. They want information to be spoon fed to them rather than do any research on their own. Why? Because it is much easier to blame someone else if something goes wrong... which, ultimately, it does. By and large, people don't want to take responsibility for their own actions... or inactions.
Ian
2) I have been on this forum for years now, and I don't see people using it as a way to get answers to fix their problems. But to get ideas. It is a resource to find out how others have dealt with similar situations, to understand what can go wrong and try to head off problems, to understand what happened when things did go wrong. I welcome all who come to post and share their experiences so that we all can learn from them and hopefully one day help to alleviate the suffering of families that this process causes because of anti-family laws, abuse of discretion and legal complexities that create confusion and traps for the average person that is not fully aware.
3) As to hiring a lawyer, I suppose you were lucky to have a straightforward case and if you used a lawyer everything went so smoothly. When it doesn't, let me tell you, the simple statement well, just get a lawyer is not so simple at all. First there is the cost and what can you afford. Then there is trying to find someone who is familiar with your problem and knows how to deal with it. Then each time you speak with one you are paying $50, $100, $200 just to tell them your story at the end of which they say, well, I don't know how I can really help you. Why don't you talk to so-and-so, he/she might be able to help you. At the end you've paid lots of money just to have somebody listen to your story and you are still no where. When you go to the 'free' agencies, they listen too, but then say well, we don't have the resources to helps someone in your kind of complex situation, here' s list of attorneys that maybe able to help. Now you're back to the consultation fee game again.
3) Far from being lazy, people on the forum ARE DOING RESEARCH. Part of any research should be talking to others who have had a similiar experience and find out what happened with them and how they dealt with it. Was it successful or if not, what went wrong and tuck that in their cap to know to avoid that situation, if possible. The more information we can gather the better. I've had some of those attorneys I paid to consult with actually tell, me, 'wow, you know more about this than me.' Not very reasurring.
Stop being so judgemental, please. It suppresses the free sharing of ideas and experiences that make the forums so valuable.
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Originally Posted by bluesails
That is an assumption on your part that this poster or others did nothing beforehand and simply waited until the last minute to post for advice on this forum.
I have been on this forum for years now, and I don't see people using it as a way to get answers to fix their problems.
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Originally Posted by bluesails
1) That is an assumption on your part that this poster or others did nothing beforehand and simply waited until the last minute to post for advice on this forum.
Originally Posted by bluesails
2) I have been on this forum for years now, and I don't see people using it as a way to get answers to fix their problems. But to get ideas.
Originally Posted by bluesails
3) As to hiring a lawyer... First there is the cost and what can you afford. Then there is trying to find someone who is familiar with your problem and knows how to deal with it. Then each time you speak with one you are paying $50, $100, $200 just to tell them your story at the end of which they say, well, I don't know how I can really help you. Why don't you talk to so-and-so, he/she might be able to help you. At the end you've paid lots of money just to have somebody listen to your story and you are still no where.
Originally Posted by bluesails
When you go to the 'free' agencies, they listen too, but then say well, we don't have the resources to helps someone in your kind of complex situation, here' s list of attorneys that maybe able to help. Now you're back to the consultation fee game again.
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Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
I think when the poster is posting a very complicated story and asking for advice on how their AOS interview will go only one day before said interview occurs, it's a reasonable assumption that the person DID wait until the last minute to post on this forum -- or the last day, at least.
Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
Right... They use the forum to get ideas about how to fix their problems. Same difference.
Originally Posted by Jenney & Mark
Immigration is expensive. Sorry, but that's just a fact. No matter if the case is complicated or not, if one wants to emigrate to another country, they have to be prepared to pay for it. If someone has a complicated case because they did not follow US government regulations and instructions, like the OP did, then unfortunately that person will most likely need to pay for a good attorney to help them get everything sorted. If they go to an attorney and the attorney just throws up their hands and says, "I can't help you," then the person needs to find another attorney who can.
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Congratulations!!!
I did get some bad comments too by just saying evrything will be okay and relax and take it easy.
Anyways, atleast you get approved and thats all that matters.
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I did get some bad comments too by just saying evrything will be okay and relax and take it easy.
Anyways, atleast you get approved and thats all that matters.
Congratulations again..
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