rickyK123

Hello, i am a 21 year old student, i have my Degree already in Business studies and i am in my honours year. i live in the uk and have a clean criminal record. i graduate this June and have a job in chicago as a Commodity broker already lined up and waiting for me.

Please can someone tell me what i need for visa's, i intend on stay for a long time 5 years minimum, but not forever. I have a g/f and child but they wont be comming accross at least not for the forst 2-3 years as she has started uni herself.

Please help me with this as this is a dream job and i dont want to loose it.

dhachick

I really don't get it. You say the company is waiting for you but why dont they inform you on your visa? Unless you are an American, PR or GC holder, you need an H1 visa to work. It is not advisable to say that you want to be in the U.S. for 5 years as H1s are given on two periods of three years. Anyways, didn't mean to blabber. Please clarify

Ingo Pakleppa

YOU can't do much for the visa. It is your employer who has to file the
paperwork. Once INS approves the paperwork, they would be sending it to
you, and then you take that to a US consulate.

As for what type of visa, there are several possibilities, but I'm not
sure if any of them quite fit.

- H-1B. This allows you to live in the US and work for up to six years
(you will initially get three years, and then can extend it for a total of
six years). An H-1B is for a profession that requires at least a four-year
college degree. I have two concerns. First, you don't say what kind of
degree you have, and given your age, I somehow doubt that it is a
four-year degree. Second, INS tends to be finicky about business degrees,
and sometimes denies H-1Bs based on the business degree not being
*required* for the job (the degree being merely helpful is not enough!)

- EB-3 Green Card. This is a permanent permission to reside in the US, and
work. However, since you say that you plan on only five years or so, it
may not be appropriate for you (you are not just permitted to stay for the
rest of your life, but you are expected to, and expected to ultimately
become a US citizen). The second concern I have is that the application
process takes a very long time, it may be between one and five years or so
before you would have it. Few employers want to wait that long.

- if the brokerage has an international office, they could hire you there
for one year. After this year, you would qualify as an intracompany
transferee and could get an L-1 visa. This is similar to an H-1B, but the
degree restrictions are a bit less.

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 17:45:00 +0000, rickyK123 wrote:

    >
    > Hello, i am a 21 year old student, i have my Degree already in Business
    > studies and i am in my honours year. i live in the uk and have a clean
    > criminal record. i graduate this June and have a job in chicago as a
    > Commodity broker already lined up and waiting for me.
    >
    > Please can someone tell me what i need for visa's, i intend on stay
    > a long time 5 years minimum, but not forever. I have a g/f and child but
    > they wont be comming accross at least not for the forst 2-3 years as she
    > has started uni herself.
    >
    > Please help me with this as this is a dream job and i dont want
    > to loose it.
    >
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    > Posted via http://britishexpats.com

rickyK123

yes, by may i will have completed a 4 year course in business studies. i am visiitng the company in less than 2 weeks, when there i think we are going to get the visa application stated. My Honours degree will be in Business studies, specialising in finance

dhachick

Don't mean to discourage you but INS usually doesn't regard a business degree as something required for a job. Especially with the many US citizen with business degrees out here looking for job. It could be different if you have MBA. All the best and Good luck!!!!

Ingo please... why would you say that a 21yr old can't get a 4 yr degree by that age? I started college in 1998 and got my BSc in Dec 2001, in the same month as my 21st b'day

Ingo Pakleppa

On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:52:20 +0000, dhachick wrote:

    >
    > Don't mean to discourage you but INS usually doesn't regard a business
    > degree as something required for a job. Especially with the many US
    > citizen with business degrees out here looking for job. It could be
    > different if you have MBA. All the best and Good luck!!!!
    >
    > Ingo please... why would you say that a 21yr old can't get a 4 yr degree
    > by that age? I started college in 1998 and got my BSc in Dec 2001, in
    > the same month as my 21st b'day

I didn't mean to say, CAN'T. It is rare, though, to start college before
age 18 or 19. It also depends on the country - I got a five-year degree at
the, in Germany, very young age of 25.

J. J. Farrell

"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
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    > On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:52:20 +0000, dhachick wrote:
    > > Ingo please... why would you say that a 21yr old can't get a 4 yr degree
    > > by that age? I started college in 1998 and got my BSc in Dec 2001, in
    > > the same month as my 21st b'day
    > I didn't mean to say, CAN'T. It is rare, though, to start college before
    > age 18 or 19. It also depends on the country - I got a five-year degree at
    > the, in Germany, very young age of 25.

I don't know about globally, but it's not rare in England. English
3-year honours degrees are equivalent to USA 4-year degrees,
and it is normal to start them at age 18 (sometimes 17 or 19).
It is the norm in England for graduates to have the equivalent of
a USA 4-year degree at age 21.

Ingo Pakleppa

On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:07:19 +0000, J. J. Farrell wrote:

    >
    > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
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    >> On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 16:52:20 +0000, dhachick wrote:
    >> > Ingo please... why would you say that a 21yr old can't get a 4 yr degree
    >> > by that age? I started college in 1998 and got my BSc in Dec 2001, in
    >> > the same month as my 21st b'day
    >> I didn't mean to say, CAN'T. It is rare, though, to start college before
    >> age 18 or 19. It also depends on the country - I got a five-year degree at
    >> the, in Germany, very young age of 25.
    >
    > I don't know about globally, but it's not rare in England. English
    > 3-year honours degrees are equivalent to USA 4-year degrees,
    > and it is normal to start them at age 18 (sometimes 17 or 19).
    > It is the norm in England for graduates to have the equivalent of
    > a USA 4-year degree at age 21.

But isn't that a three-year degree? You are saying it is equivalent to a
US 4-year degree, but that is what I doubt (although I'm sure some will
slip by an education credential service).

rickyK123

A degree in Britain last for 3 years, i have that already, thsi year im doing Honours, that will be 4 years. All honour degree's are for 4 years. To get back to the original point of the post, has anyone been in my situation and can advise me???

J. J. Farrell

"Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
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    > On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 02:07:19 +0000, J. J. Farrell wrote:
    > > "Ingo Pakleppa" wrote in message
    > > news:[email protected]...
    > >>
    > >> I didn't mean to say, CAN'T. It is rare, though, to start college
before
    > >> age 18 or 19. It also depends on the country - I got a five-year degree
at
    > >> the, in Germany, very young age of 25.
    > >
    > > I don't know about globally, but it's not rare in England. English
    > > 3-year honours degrees are equivalent to USA 4-year degrees,
    > > and it is normal to start them at age 18 (sometimes 17 or 19).
    > > It is the norm in England for graduates to have the equivalent of
    > > a USA 4-year degree at age 21.
    > But isn't that a three-year degree? You are saying it is equivalent to a
    > US 4-year degree, but that is what I doubt (although I'm sure some will
    > slip by an education credential service).

I don't believe it's a question of "slipping by". I've never heard of an
English 3-year honours degree not being accepted as equivalent to
a USA 4-year degree.

rickyK123

There is no such thing as a 3 year honours degree, it take 4 years for an honours degree.

NC Penguin

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I studied fulltime in the UK and graduated with a BSc with Honours. The typical British degree is three years in duration (fulltime) and one usually graduates with an Honours degree.

The exceptions are Oxford and Cambridge where you can graduate with a Masters in three years. Also, degrees awarded by Scottish universities are Masters but they are a standard four years (no such thing as a three year long degree as far as I know).

RickyK123- where are you studying? In England? Did you start your university education on a first degree or did you study for an HND or similar before moving onto a degree?

Also, back to your original post. It is most unusual to hear that an employer is not sponsoring you to obtain a work visa for you to enter the UK. I think a phone call/email to Human Resources to your new employer is in order so you are kept informed of how they will get you into the US legally.



NC Penguin

J. J. Farrell

"rickyK123" wrote in message
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    > There is no such thing as a 3 year honours degree,
    > it take 4 years for an honours degree.

Utter nonsense. English honours degrees were
traditionally always 3 years, and most still
are. About 25 years ago other variants started
to appear, such as 4-year courses which led
directly to a Masters, and 1 year additional
honours top-up courses on top of a 3-year
ordinary degree. These variants, and other
things such as an additional year placement
in industry, became more common as the old
polytechnics and other tertiary schools
started giving degrees and getting merged
into the University system.

Scottish honours degrees are usually 4 years,
but they tend to start a year earlier.