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meauxna Jul 21st 2011 1:28 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9510844)
Surely there should be a way to know. Are the DOS 'visa specialists' who can check his case status told me his AP woud not be affected and he cud travel while waiting lying?
It tool me exactly a day to get my visa to the u.k. They are carrying things s bit to far just via his name is so generic. It should not take months to verify he is not a criminal.

There is NO way to know. I have been following AP cases since 9/11. I have never seen anyone get around AP or make it shorter.

His name might match someone who is not a good person.

suomar Jul 21st 2011 1:36 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
I wonder if this bad person also married a Hindu American woman and worked at the same bank for 10 year and has all the same facts as him. Everytime he visited the u.s. after 9/11 he was detained for 2 hrs. Did not take much longer to verify whether they shud let him in the country.

scrubbedexpat099 Jul 21st 2011 1:39 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9508478)
Hello...my husband who also is British with a Muslim name

Terrorist not Criminal.

Probably.

Noorah101 Jul 21st 2011 1:41 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
[QUOTE=suomar;9510868]I wonder if this bad person also married a Hindu American woman and worked at the same bank for 10 year and has all the same facts as him. /quote]
Probably not all the same details, no. That's what they have to manually verify. That your husband is NOT the same guy as the bad guy.


Everytime he visited the u.s. after 9/11 he was detained for 2 hrs. Did not take much longer to verify whether they shud let him in the country.
Shouldn't maybe. But it does.

Rene

suomar Jul 21st 2011 1:47 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
We are happy to wait and understand why they r doing it and y it takes time but come on...I guess I just need to accept I am on my own here for a while longer.

ian-mstm Jul 22nd 2011 12:19 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9510844)
Are the DOS 'visa specialists' who can check his case status told me his AP woud not be affected and he cud travel while waiting lying?

Probably, yes. The US Supreme Court has verified that you can not count on, as accurate, anything said to you by a US government employee. The "DOS visa specialists" don't care whether or not their advice is useful or harmful... since they can't be held accountable, and they are not the ones affected by their comments.



They are carrying things s bit to far just via his name is so generic.
For the US, it's a matter of national security. It'll take as long as it takes and there is nothing you can do to speed it up, find out where you are in the process, or find out how much longer it'll take.



It should not take months to verify he is not a criminal.
The checks have to be done manually... it takes time - often, a very long time.

Ian

jeffreyhy Jul 22nd 2011 1:54 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
Perhaps, but more likely they believe that what they are telling you is correct and they may simply not know what the correct answer is.

Either way, as Ian has explained, you can't depend on what you're told. So whether they are lying or are simply misinformed, it make no difference.

Regards, JEff



Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9510844)
Are the DOS 'visa specialists' who can check his case status told me his AP woud not be affected and he cud travel while waiting lying?


S Folinsky Jul 22nd 2011 4:58 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9510844)
Surely there should be a way to know. Are the DOS 'visa specialists' who can check his case status told me his AP woud not be affected and he cud travel while waiting lying?
It tool me exactly a day to get my visa to the u.k. They are carrying things s bit to far just via his name is so generic. It should not take months to verify he is not a criminal.

Another immigration lawyer who sometimes participates in this forum is amused by the word "surely" when used by a Brit. [FWIW, his husband is a Brit.]

That said, the US Immigration & Nationality Act is premised on the thought that non-US citizens cannot enter the United States until it is shown that they are qualified. Although it is not criminal procedure, think of it as "guilty until proven innocent."

As an aside, it should be remembered that Administrative Processing counts as a visa "refusal" in Department-of-State-speak. Did the number "221(g)" appear anyplace?

suomar Jul 22nd 2011 8:49 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
You cud say I am a brit..spent enough time there..
Whereas no 221g and the officer at the interview said everything was fine and that xx secure wud deliver his passport with visa in a week. So we booked our tickets as my job had been waiting for 6 months already. But his passport never arrived. They say they r still processing his case.

glasgow1 Aug 3rd 2011 11:27 pm

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
Hi there!

Apologies for the delay in getting back to you, I have been super busy!

To answer your question, YES I have finally receieved my Visa!! I receieved the package and all documents in June so we are planning the move as I type.

From my experience it has been a grulling ride and you have to be persistant.

To clear a few things up. Yes you can travel to the US under AP ( have done this 3 times) and NO it doesnt trigger AP all over again.

My visa interview was in London in April 2010 and I received my visa in June 2011.

I hired a lawyer in DC which I wouldnt recommend. As desperate as you might be they are pretty much useless (they dont have a secret number, a special contact etc) better save your money. Furthermore, I think I did more chasing up than he did!

Call the DOS in DC every 3 days and ask for updates. Try and build a relationship with the person on the phone, this helped for me. I talked to a guys called Jessy and and a girl called Fiona and they were nice, knew my case inside out and sent emails to find out why the delay.

Call the 090 number that is the US embassy number, it is based in Glasgow. Ask for an update (they probably wont have any news) they will give you a email address and code which is valid for a week and email them EVERY WEEK!

You have to be consistant and demand why they delay.

Furthemore, I emailed various high profile people in the US embassy in London asking for updates which I beleive worked. (spent a good few hours researching and finding email addresses.)

Lastly, The US Embassy in London wants to get your case of their desk (of they think you are safe and genuine). The reason for the delay is DC and their system.

The only way in my expereince that you can push this forward is putting pressure on the London Embassy and phoning DC.

I started this hardcore approach in April which I believe helped the process.

If you want any more info then let me know.



Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9508478)
Hello...my husband who also is British with a Muslim name has been waiting for AP obmvr 6 months now. Did you get your immigrant visa finally? If so hoe long did it take? We have not seen him since Jan so he may visit us. DOS advise that AP will not be affected. Thanks.


ian-mstm Aug 4th 2011 12:57 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by glasgow1 (Post 9537257)
Yes you can travel to the US under AP ( have done this 3 times) and NO it doesnt trigger AP all over again.

Except for at least one guy where it did. Glad to hear that wasn't your experience, but I'd caution against making blanket definitive statements.

Ian

suomar Aug 4th 2011 4:16 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
Thanks for ur reply glasgow1.12 months AP is a long time! Do I know y it took so long?
Good luck with ur move.

suomar Aug 4th 2011 4:17 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
Actually 14 months..

suomar Aug 4th 2011 4:18 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 
Would u be able to email me ur contacts at the embassy?

ian-mstm Aug 4th 2011 4:54 am

Re: Administrative Processing - 6 months!
 

Originally Posted by suomar (Post 9537796)
Would u be able to email me ur contacts at the embassy?

Who are you asking? Hint = there is a handy "quote" button at the bottom right of each post so that people will know who you're talking to.

Ian


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