2002 Poverty Guidelines
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2002 Poverty Guidelines
Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864, and know when
they will be start going by the new ones? all the current I-864 form says it to go by
the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees here in Maryland today, and
that's spring in my book!
thanks guys.
they will be start going by the new ones? all the current I-864 form says it to go by
the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees here in Maryland today, and
that's spring in my book!
thanks guys.
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
Awww, 75? We're not going to see that for a while here in Michigan. It did get up to
almost 60 the other day. Oh, well that's better than 32 which was the temp when I
came back from Ireland.
almost 60 the other day. Oh, well that's better than 32 which was the temp when I
came back from Ireland.
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
Mrs Blackross wrote:
> Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864, and know when
> they will be start going by the new ones? all the current I-864 form says it to go
> by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees here in Maryland
> today, and that's spring in my book!
>
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
See the Doc Steen site here:
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and this
is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from old
newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to:
http://www.aila.org
> Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864, and know when
> they will be start going by the new ones? all the current I-864 form says it to go
> by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees here in Maryland
> today, and that's spring in my book!
>
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
See the Doc Steen site here:
http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and this
is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from old
newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to:
http://www.aila.org
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
04/02.LOL
"Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
and
> > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
I-864
> > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees
> > here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> >
> http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
>
> See the Doc Steen site here:
> http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> go to: http://www.aila.org
04/02.LOL
"Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
and
> > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
I-864
> > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was 75 degrees
> > here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> >
> http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
>
> See the Doc Steen site here:
> http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> go to: http://www.aila.org
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
well ya know, most of Michigan is further north, colder, and gets more snow than
where I am from in Canada (Niagara Falls)...you mean you guys don't have snow on the
ground up there still? 8Þ
"AAngiela" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Awww, 75? We're not going to see that for a while here in Michigan. It
did
> get up to almost 60 the other day. Oh, well that's better than 32 which
was
> the temp when I came back from Ireland.
where I am from in Canada (Niagara Falls)...you mean you guys don't have snow on the
ground up there still? 8Þ
"AAngiela" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> Awww, 75? We're not going to see that for a while here in Michigan. It
did
> get up to almost 60 the other day. Oh, well that's better than 32 which
was
> the temp when I came back from Ireland.
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
Given the economy, I doubt they'll change much. But it's good to know to check
to be sure.
"Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
> and
> > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> I-864
> > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was
75
> > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > >
> > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> >
> > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> > this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> > old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> > go to: http://www.aila.org
>
to be sure.
"Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
> and
> > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> I-864
> > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was
75
> > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > >
> > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> >
> > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> > this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> > old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> > go to: http://www.aila.org
>
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm
> > > Generally, I think they start around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
Alvena, do you know if the amounts mentioned at that link are 100% or 125% ?
Thank you .
> > > Generally, I think they start around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
Alvena, do you know if the amounts mentioned at that link are 100% or 125% ?
Thank you .
#8
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
pretty sure they are only 100%, since in the guidelines for 2001, 125% was around 22k
for a family of four, and that site shows 18k for a family of 4 in 2002.
"s.r.e." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm
> > > > Generally, I think they start around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
>
> Alvena, do you know if the amounts mentioned at that link are 100% or 125% ?
> Thank you .
for a family of four, and that site shows 18k for a family of 4 in 2002.
"s.r.e." <[email protected]> wrote in message
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> http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm
> > > > Generally, I think they start around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
>
> Alvena, do you know if the amounts mentioned at that link are 100% or 125% ?
> Thank you .
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Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
--
Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
> and
> > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> I-864
> > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was
75
> > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > >
> > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> >
> > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> > this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> > old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> > go to: http://www.aila.org
>
--
Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the I-864,
> and
> > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> I-864
> > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it was
75
> > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > >
> > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> >
> > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer, and
> > this is not immigration advice. The information I provide is mostly gleaned from
> > old newsgroup posts and visa links on the internet. If you want or need a lawyer,
> > go to: http://www.aila.org
>
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
"Jackson Pride" <@.net> wrote ...
> Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date on
the header:
From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: alt.visa.us.marriage-based
Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:54:15 -0500
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References: <[email protected]>
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woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
04/02.LOL
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
>
> --
> Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > 04/02.LOL
> >
> > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
I-864,
> > and
> > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> > I-864
> > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
was
> 75
> > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > >
> > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > >
> > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > and this is not immigration advice. The information
I
> > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
the
> > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > >
> >
> Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date on
the header:
From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups: alt.visa.us.marriage-based
Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2002 22:54:15 -0500
Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID:
<[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]>
References: <[email protected]>
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woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
04/02.LOL
Andy.
--
I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
>
> --
> Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > 04/02.LOL
> >
> > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
I-864,
> > and
> > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the current
> > I-864
> > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
was
> 75
> > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > >
> > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start around
> > > 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > >
> > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > and this is not immigration advice. The information
I
> > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
the
> > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > >
> >
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Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines
LOL thanks Andy. I was going to say...I posted that a looong time ago!
"Andy Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jackson Pride" <@.net> wrote ...
>
> > Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
>
> Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date
on
> the header:
>
> From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups:
> alt.visa.us.marriage-based Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar
> 2002 22:54:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mrs Blackross"
> <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]>
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>
>
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
> >
> > --
> > Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > > 04/02.LOL
> > >
> > > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
> I-864,
> > > and
> > > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the
current
> > > I-864
> > > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
> was
> > 75
> > > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > > >
> > > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start
> > > > around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > > >
> > > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > > and this is not immigration advice. The
information
> I
> > > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
> the
> > > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
"Andy Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jackson Pride" <@.net> wrote ...
>
> > Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
>
> Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date
on
> the header:
>
> From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups:
> alt.visa.us.marriage-based Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar
> 2002 22:54:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mrs Blackross"
> <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> [email protected] Lines: 27
>
>
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
> >
> > --
> > Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > > 04/02.LOL
> > >
> > > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
> I-864,
> > > and
> > > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the
current
> > > I-864
> > > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
> was
> > 75
> > > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > > >
> > > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start
> > > > around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > > >
> > > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > > and this is not immigration advice. The
information
> I
> > > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
> the
> > > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
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Duh! Thanks Andy. I knew it wasn't March anymore. I should look at the header before
I stick my foot in my mouth.
--
Jackson "Andy Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jackson Pride" <@.net> wrote ...
>
> > Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
>
> Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date
on
> the header:
>
> From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups:
> alt.visa.us.marriage-based Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar
> 2002 22:54:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mrs Blackross"
> <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE:
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> [email protected] Lines: 27
>
>
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
> >
> > --
> > Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > > 04/02.LOL
> > >
> > > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
> I-864,
> > > and
> > > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the
current
> > > I-864
> > > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
> was
> > 75
> > > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > > >
> > > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start
> > > > around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > > >
> > > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > > and this is not immigration advice. The
information
> I
> > > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
> the
> > > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
I stick my foot in my mouth.
--
Jackson "Andy Platt" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "Jackson Pride" <@.net> wrote ...
>
> > Looks like you missed your interview then. ;o)
>
> Sounds like you have just received a very very old post, look at the date
on
> the header:
>
> From: "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> Newsgroups:
> alt.visa.us.marriage-based Subject: Re: 2002 Poverty Guidelines Date: Fri, 15 Mar
> 2002 22:54:15 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com
> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Reply-To: "Mrs Blackross"
> <[email protected]> References: <[email protected]>
> <[email protected]> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
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> [email protected] Lines: 27
>
>
> woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> 04/02.LOL
>
> Andy.
>
> --
> I'm not really here - it's just your warped imagination.
> >
> > --
> > Jackson "Mrs Blackross" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > woohoo thanks alvena. and doesn't it just figure that my interview is
> > > 04/02.LOL
> > >
> > > "Alvena Ferreira" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Mrs Blackross wrote:
> > > > > Does anyone have a link to the 2002 poverty guidelines for the
> I-864,
> > > and
> > > > > know when they will be start going by the new ones? all the
current
> > > I-864
> > > > > form says it to go by the 2001 ones until "spring 2002". Well it
> was
> > 75
> > > > > degrees here in Maryland today, and that's spring in my book!
> > > > >
> > > > http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/02poverty.htm Generally, I think they start
> > > > around 4/1/02, or thereabouts. Alvena
> > > >
> > > > See the Doc Steen site here:
> > > > http://www.mindspring.com/~docsteen/...o/visainfo.htm I am not a lawyer,
> > > > and this is not immigration advice. The
information
> I
> > > > provide is mostly gleaned from old newsgroup posts and visa links on
> the
> > > > internet. If you want or need a lawyer, go to: http://www.aila.org
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>