You know your kids have integrated when....
#31
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
Is'nt if funny how many anthems have words to the strong and the free, when I lived iN Australia, it was"Home of the Anzac the strong and the free" Canada "glorious and free, we stand on guard ect sometimes we talk about america (what is the hatred about america??) but are not other countries as
patriotic? ans are we not a bit jealous fo USA patriotism? We have just travelled up through the states, and I have to say I am more than impressed by the way they support their troups, and seem to honour them, I think about the poor boys from Blighty and they are nowhere as well looked after, and some of the people of Britain do not honour them as much as our american neighbours do, what a shame. These poor guys are out there against the odds, and it is against the odds (I have'nt known a gorilla warfare to be defeated yet) givining their lives its obscene IMO If I had my way they would be brought home
patriotic? ans are we not a bit jealous fo USA patriotism? We have just travelled up through the states, and I have to say I am more than impressed by the way they support their troups, and seem to honour them, I think about the poor boys from Blighty and they are nowhere as well looked after, and some of the people of Britain do not honour them as much as our american neighbours do, what a shame. These poor guys are out there against the odds, and it is against the odds (I have'nt known a gorilla warfare to be defeated yet) givining their lives its obscene IMO If I had my way they would be brought home
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
we used to have a timeshare in Marbella Spain, it included our golf, so we used to play in competitions, in one competiton i was placed with 3 men, one being an american ex marine, the other two where ex squaddies, and listening to the conversation it was so plain that the usa troops had a better benifits package, and were better looked after than the British guys. Then it was followed by news reports that the britsh forces, did'nt have appropriate equipment for the desert, it was scandalous, also if you need more proof ex army generals resigning because their troops did'nt have the necessary equipment for the job??: and felt they were being treated badly confused: the short of it is the British ran out of money and the cutbacks are serious, ask a few of the families who have lost loved ones, and I don't know the whole story, but they do, my last word on this is please tell me who has ever won a gorilla Warfare? I know it will never be won so why waste the lives of innocent young men, seen it all before
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
Yes, but unfortunately, Aqsa Parvez got to experience her father's culture.
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/toronto/sto...socialcomments
She told her father she did not wish to wear the hijab any longer. She wanted to dress in Western clothes and have the same freedoms as the other girls in her high school.
"In an interview with police, she says her husband told her he killed his youngest child because "this is my insult. My community will say, 'You have not been able to control your daughter.' This is my insult. She is making me naked."
It is, I think, to assuage the parental conscience that so many children are dispatched to spend the summers in their homelands and are shuffled around ethnic events while in Canada. It seems to me that the lack of New Canadian participation in iced hockey is, at least in part, because it's seen as the quinessential cradle pastime; joining in would be symbolic of assimilation to the children and of failure to the parents.
BTW, what do you call a "cradle"? 1st generation children from Italy? Portugal? Greece? India? China? 2nd or 3rd generation? Ancestors of earlier immigrants from western Europe and British Isles? Is it simply white people to you? What the hell is a cradle?
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#37
Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
America the Beautiful is what you are thinking of. God Bless America is another one. Before O Canada the Anthem was the Maple Leaf Forever. I like the German anthem myself.
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Yes it is nice, and the Russian one, I do like it as well. and then there are the dire ones, the really boring slow ones, sorry I am hopeless with the names but one I think is the swiss one It is America the Beautiful, I think it is a lovely song.
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
Trouble is Star Spangled Banner is not so easy to sing, it goes over nearly everyone's vocal switch point (the place where you, almost physically, have to change alter how you produce your pitch when you sing) & that makes it a problem. Oh Canada stays within most peoples range, so I would argue it is better!
What I won't argue with is that the UK national Anthem is boring & turgid
Lovely story to start this thread! For me I knew my daughter was becoming moper Canadian when I couldn't tell if it was her or her friends talking in the back of the car! Her English accent is disappearing so fast! However, when she reads aloud (or by the time the weekend is over) she sounds really English again!!
What I won't argue with is that the UK national Anthem is boring & turgid
Lovely story to start this thread! For me I knew my daughter was becoming moper Canadian when I couldn't tell if it was her or her friends talking in the back of the car! Her English accent is disappearing so fast! However, when she reads aloud (or by the time the weekend is over) she sounds really English again!!
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
Trouble is Star Spangled Banner is not so easy to sing, it goes over nearly everyone's vocal switch point (the place where you, almost physically, have to change alter how you produce your pitch when you sing) & that makes it a problem. Oh Canada stays within most peoples range, so I would argue it is better!
#41
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I think what you are trying to say is that "multi-culturalsim" and sticking to ones own kind should be the way to go. That is the worst policy in existence IMO and sounds quite racist. It has nothing to do with a nation of immigrants coming together like they should be.
More succinctly, someone for whom the World Cup is not the biggest sporting event of 2010.
#42
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Canada is not about immigrants coming together. If you want a "melting pot" philosophy then move to the US. Canada stands for semi-detached citizenship, dash Canadian is something one tacks behind one's primary identity, it's not an identity in itself. I think there's only a case that this policy is racist if you accept "cradle" as being a race. Even then no one seeks to deny any sort of human right to the unhyphenated.
I use it mean someone who has lost track of his or her cultural identity to the extent that he or she can offer no better self-description than "-Canadian" without being sure what goes in front of the dash. It's a running joke here being that one cannot find a person born in Canada to two parents who were born in Canada, I suppose if there is such a person then that's the definitive cradle.
More succinctly, someone for whom the World Cup is not the biggest sporting event of 2010.
More succinctly, someone for whom the World Cup is not the biggest sporting event of 2010.
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Re: You know your kids have integrated when....
Trouble is Star Spangled Banner is not so easy to sing, it goes over nearly everyone's vocal switch point (the place where you, almost physically, have to change alter how you produce your pitch when you sing) & that makes it a problem. Oh Canada stays within most peoples range, so I would argue it is better!
God Save the Queen is indeed a dirge. The Marseillaise is good, as is the Russian anthem. Fratelli d'Italia is probably my favourite, even Advance Australia Fair is rousing. Of the Home Nations' "Rugby Anthems", there's nothing to stir the soul like a packed Cardiff Arms Park (sorry, Millennium Stadium) belting out Land of My Fathers - so long as the don't go on to win the game, of course.... Flower of Scotland, imho, is down there with GSTQ in terms of its ability to rouse the emotions.