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scrubbedexpat091 Dec 19th 2017 4:51 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12402260)
From where would it normally fall? ;)

Oh you...:lol:

BristolUK Dec 19th 2017 6:34 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
I've only had to clear once so far and just the steps. There's about 2cm on the front steps right now and that can wait until tomorrow.

We have a potential 20cm due on Monday.

Hawkmoon77 Dec 19th 2017 6:44 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Snowing steadily in Chilliwack, few cms so far, but sky has the ominous "I'm going to dump on you big style" look about it

bats Dec 19th 2017 9:19 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12402260)
From where would it normally fall? ;)


Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12402261)
Oh you...:lol:

the roof?

BristolUK Dec 19th 2017 9:44 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12402416)
the roof?

Good point.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 19th 2017 12:36 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Amazing how a little snow creates such issues, not sure I would agree with the media saying Vancouver saw heavy snow, it wasn't...lol Fraser Valley might have seen more.





https://bc.ctvnews.ca/handful-of-yvr...oast-1.3728065


Every year is also the same.

People act like it's the first time it's ever snowed in Vancouver.

Translink buses get stuck because they don't use winter tires.

Bridges and highways are a mess.

Accidents galore.

Basic chaos.

Amusing in a way.

Piff Poff Dec 19th 2017 3:34 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12400208)
That's interesting, the manual I have for the battery thingy describes the unit you have, not the one I have. I'll revisit trying to use it tonight, indoors, in the warm.

Here's a view of the crowding problem, truck now displaced, Mustang in that spot. Note the wall crinkling just ahead of the bucket, an example of my steering last year. I shall be very glad when the garage adjusting man comes and we're able to put the truck and day-to-day car in there.

Your morning sounds like a regular day in our house and I'm pretty sure you can fit more stuff in that barn, it looks half empty lol

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2017 2:36 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
I don't remember so many -25s and colder (with wind chill) before xmas before.

Freezing rain tonight but already melting thanks to rain after. Looks really messy out.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 23rd 2017 2:40 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Such a difference build quality makes.

Last winter we struggled to keep the apartment at 15 with heat on.

This year haven't used the heat yet and stays in the 19 to 20 range.

Supposed to be - 4 tonight. Already -1.

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2017 2:41 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12404675)

Supposed to be - 4 tonight. Already -1.

We just warmed up to that.

Former Lancastrian Dec 23rd 2017 10:14 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Nice to wake up to on Christmas eve
-28°C
Feels like: -39
Partly Cloudy

For the rest of the Christmas period
TonightClearing early this evening. Wind northwest 20 km/h becoming light this evening. Low minus 28. Wind chill minus 37.
SundaySunny early in the morning then a mix of sun and cloud with 30 percent chance of flurries in the afternoon. Wind up to 15 km/h. High minus 20. Wind chill minus 37 in the morning and minus 28 in the afternoon.
Sunday nightPartly cloudy with 30 percent chance of flurries early in the evening then clear. Wind northwest 20 km/h gusting to 40. Low minus 29. Extreme wind chill minus 42.

Mon
Dec 25
A mix of sun and clouds

-24°C
-36
-28°
30%
-
25 km/h NW
3
Tue
Dec 26
A mix of sun and clouds

-23°C
-31
-30°
20%
-
13 km/h W
3
Wed
Dec 27
Mainly sunny

-22°C
-31
-25°
30%
<1 cm
15 km/h S
6
Thu
Dec 28
A mix of sun and clouds

-21°C
-28
-26°
20%
-
13 km/h NW
4
Fri
Dec 29
Mainly sunny

-23°C
-29
-29°
20%
-
10 km/h SW
5
Sat
Dec 30
Mainly sunny

-25°C
-30
-26°
20%
-
8 km/h SE
6
Sun
Dec 31
Mainly sunny

-19°C
-26
-25°
20%
-
14 km/h NW
6

BristolUK Dec 23rd 2017 11:47 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 12404748)
Nice to wake up to on Christmas eve
-28°C
Feels like: -39

So long as Santa can get through.

caretaker Dec 25th 2017 1:02 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
It's going to be chilly here all week, but after the nice weather we've had so far this year that's ok. :lol:

BristolUK Dec 25th 2017 2:03 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Snow coming down thick and fast. At least it will cover the mess left from the freezing rain.

caretaker Dec 25th 2017 2:13 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12405100)
Snow coming down thick and fast. At least it will cover the mess left from the freezing rain.

Could be good for a highlight reel of bumper cars on the news.

magnumpi Dec 25th 2017 2:28 am

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Ajax, Christmas morning

BristolUK Dec 25th 2017 3:04 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12405104)
Ajax, Christmas morning

Have the police called about that stolen park bench? :p

magnumpi Dec 25th 2017 3:16 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12405106)
Have the police called about that stolen park bench? :p

Not yet, give it time tho :@)

bats Dec 25th 2017 4:50 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12404774)
So long as Santa can get through.

FL will make sure Santa has the right visa

dbd33 Dec 26th 2017 12:37 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
There was a lot of snow overnight and we planned to go riding this morning. I duly set out to blow early and was dismayed to find a flat tyre on the tractor. Note that I can now start the tractor because, when indoors, in the light, without gloves, the lithium jumper thingy is easily understood. No worries, we have a little pump that works off the cigarette lighter in the car and the Mustang was just close enough for it to reach. Alas, lots of noise, no visible expansion.

I blew the drive on the flat tyre just enough to get out. While I was indoors warming up the instructor sent a message, "too cold to ride, try again this afternoon". I went back out, took the wheel off and hauled it to the petrol station where I blew it up to some random pressure because the gauge on the pump was frozen. I reinstalled the wheel and cleaned up the driveway. By then it had warmed up to -18 so we went riding.

I type all this so that anyone deluded by the idea that an "outdoors lifestyle" is a benefit of being in Canada can get a clue.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 26th 2017 1:17 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
Never did snow. Kind of amusing it didn't snow as the city had plows driving around all day Sunday and Monday as the forecast called for a few cm's of snow, and the airport had plows and equipment staged around the airport grounds waiting for snow.

The day is did snow however last week, plows no to be seen anywhere and the airport really struggled...

Go figure, they prepared for once but there was no snow....

-1 or so most of today.

Tootlepootle Dec 26th 2017 2:08 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12405494)
Never did snow. Kind of amusing it didn't snow as the city had plows driving around all day Sunday and Monday as the forecast called for a few cm's of snow, and the airport had plows and equipment staged around the airport grounds waiting for snow.

The day is did snow however last week, plows no to be seen anywhere and the airport really struggled...

Go figure, they prepared for once but there was no snow....

-1 or so most of today.

We got a couple of cms out in Coquitlam

BristolUK Dec 26th 2017 10:40 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12405489)
I type all this so that anyone deluded by the idea that an "outdoors lifestyle" is a benefit of being in Canada can get a clue.

You are clearly a man of many talents. :nod:
I thought my stepdaughter had it tough going to her bus stop at 7.15 this morning when it was -17/-31. At least she's wrapped up and the bus is reliable.

bats Dec 27th 2017 12:28 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
It was minus 26 when I took the dog out for a pee. Too cold to poo it seems.

caretaker Dec 27th 2017 12:34 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
-31, windchill -43 here and I don't blame him :lol:.

Almost Canadian Dec 27th 2017 12:54 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12405489)
There was a lot of snow overnight and we planned to go riding this morning. I duly set out to blow early and was dismayed to find a flat tyre on the tractor. Note that I can now start the tractor because, when indoors, in the light, without gloves, the lithium jumper thingy is easily understood. No worries, we have a little pump that works off the cigarette lighter in the car and the Mustang was just close enough for it to reach. Alas, lots of noise, no visible expansion.

I blew the drive on the flat tyre just enough to get out. While I was indoors warming up the instructor sent a message, "too cold to ride, try again this afternoon". I went back out, took the wheel off and hauled it to the petrol station where I blew it up to some random pressure because the gauge on the pump was frozen. I reinstalled the wheel and cleaned up the driveway. By then it had warmed up to -18 so we went riding.

I type all this so that anyone deluded by the idea that an "outdoors lifestyle" is a benefit of being in Canada can get a clue.

You don't have an air compressor?

The rear tyres on our tractor are filled with water. Someone drove over a nail once without realising it. The mess we woke up to in the morning was horrid.

You have my sympathies.

I seem to remember that, some years ago, you posted pictures of you and your family riding. That being the case, what type of instruction do you have?

We've had about 4 inches of snow since I last cleared the drive but, at -30 and no cab on the tractor (why I didn't buy one is beyond me) there is no way I am clearing it until the temperature drops a bit.

bats Dec 27th 2017 1:47 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12405621)
-31, windchill -43 here and I don't blame him :lol:.

I don't either. Maybe he could use the cat litter.

dbd33 Dec 27th 2017 10:51 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12405627)
You don't have an air compressor?

The rear tyres on our tractor are filled with water. Someone drove over a nail once without realising it. The mess we woke up to in the morning was horrid.

You have my sympathies.

I seem to remember that, some years ago, you posted pictures of you and your family riding. That being the case, what type of instruction do you have?

We've had about 4 inches of snow since I last cleared the drive but, at -30 and no cab on the tractor (why I didn't buy one is beyond me) there is no way I am clearing it until the temperature drops a bit.

Oddly, we’ve never had a compressor, we nailed all of the siding by hand. It’s not something I miss, unlike a cab and huge rear facing lights for the tractor.

The pleasure in riding for me is in getting better over time. One can purchase a well-trained “point and shoot” horse with what are called auto lead changes and it’s interesting to ride one just to feel what’s supposed to be happening. However I like the fact that my horse was in a poor state, would only canter left on the wrong lead, went off at an unpredictable pace and is now shiny and picks up the correct lead reliably. Both horse and rider are very different now than a year ago. The difference in my wife’s horse is even more pronounced, when he came from the track the objective of an hour’s lesson was to stay on, now it’s lead changes and two tracking.

This type of improvement comes from instruction, two hours per week, and practise whenever possible.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 27th 2017 12:53 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
A mix of rain and snow today, nothing really sticking though.

Around 0 or 1 I would guess.

Atlantic Xpat Dec 27th 2017 11:45 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12405917)
Oddly, we’ve never had a compressor, we nailed all of the siding by hand. It’s not something I miss, unlike a cab and huge rear facing lights for the tractor.

Cab's are expensive I know, but LED flood/spot lights for offroad use are dirt cheap through ebay & amazon. Surely not beyond the wit of man to wire a couple up to your rollbar facing backwards to provide that all important illumination for night time snow clearing?

Shirtback Dec 27th 2017 11:55 pm

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
It’s minus something ‘orrible here, even by Qc standards. Son’s truck which has always started without trouble however cold it gets, didn’t.

Yesterday I visited my daughter & co, who have moved back to Ste-Perpete-des-Oies in the back of nowhere where she grew up. Her townie SO is apparently struggling with how much work heating an old house with wood burning stoves can be.

dbd33 Dec 28th 2017 12:09 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Atlantic Xpat (Post 12406153)
Surely not beyond the wit of man to wire a couple up to your rollbar facing backwards to provide that all important illumination for night time snow clearing?

I expect there's even a kit from the manufacturer, I just haven't got to it. One more slide into the ditch or one more mown down plant might inspire action.

BristolUK Dec 28th 2017 1:16 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 
A salt question: When you hear/read that salt is ineffective below -15 or -20, whatever, is that the base temperature or the wind chill/feels like temp?

...........................

Three days in a row colder than -30 with the feels like. -36 in the night and -34 when lucky stepdaughter went to the bus stop :nod:

Almost Canadian Dec 28th 2017 1:31 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12405917)
Oddly, we’ve never had a compressor, we nailed all of the siding by hand. It’s not something I miss, unlike a cab and huge rear facing lights for the tractor.

The pleasure in riding for me is in getting better over time. One can purchase a well-trained “point and shoot” horse with what are called auto lead changes and it’s interesting to ride one just to feel what’s supposed to be happening. However I like the fact that my horse was in a poor state, would only canter left on the wrong lead, went off at an unpredictable pace and is now shiny and picks up the correct lead reliably. Both horse and rider are very different now than a year ago. The difference in my wife’s horse is even more pronounced, when he came from the track the objective of an hour’s lesson was to stay on, now it’s lead changes and two tracking.

This type of improvement comes from instruction, two hours per week, and practise whenever possible.

Congratulations on the improvement with the horses.

We have never been rich enough to really be able to compete on the competitive horse jumping circuit but my eldest is horse mad and spent many a day clearing out stalls at the places we boarded horses to "earn" lessons with their instructors and helped out so that, in essence, she has become a very good instructor herself, albeit without the pieces of paper that would enable her to do so for money.

When we moved out of town and she started at a rural school, she learned from other students of the money that may be made to take a relatively unbroken horse and train it to such an extent that wealthy people will pay a premium for it. She has kept this up notwithstanding the fact that she now attends uni and this was a large part of her wanting to attend the local uni.

I will muck around on our horses on our property but my wife wants me to be able to go on trail rides with her through the Rockies. While I accept that that sounds great, I am sure the reality will be somewhat different, particularly as she wants to stay out for an overnight or two.

MillieF Dec 28th 2017 3:49 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12405627)
You don't have an air compressor?

Our air compressor refuses to work when it's cold, so we've had to take it in from the garage, and put it in the unfinished basement and buy an extra long hose to the outside? Is this normal?

My phone tells me that in Fredericton right now it it -19 'real feel' -39 :eek: with light snow...

I looked at the long range forecast and can't see it getting anywhere past arctic till mid January...

It strikes me my air compressor has more sense than I do:unsure:

dave_j Dec 28th 2017 4:36 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12406180)
A salt question: When you hear/read that salt is ineffective below -15 or -20, whatever, is that the base temperature or the wind chill/feels like temp?

I'll guess the answer.

Salt works because when in solution it depresses the freezing point allowing the solution to remain liquid at a temperature lower than the pure solvent's freezing point.

Windchill generates a colder 'feel' for at least two reasons.

The passage of air over a moist surface forces evaporation and evaporation requires energy that it takes from its surroundings, ie skin, and hence it 'feels' as though the actual surroundings are cooler than they actually are because energy is being removed from them.

The second reason is that passing a fluid quickly over a surface increases the heat transfer coefficient associated with convective heat transfer and the faster the fluid flows then the higher the coefficient and the more heat will be lost. Thus you can feel warm on a cold day with no wind.

I'm making a reasoned guess that that the salt will be ineffective below the base temperature of -15 because both the above are effective only when there is energy to be lost, ie where a warm surface is available to supply it. In the case of salt in solution on a cold surface this isn't the case.

caretaker Dec 28th 2017 5:13 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by MillieF (Post 12406236)
Is this normal?

Yes, moisture in the system freezes the couplers.

MillieF Dec 28th 2017 5:27 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12406292)
Yes, moisture in the system freezes the couplers.

Thank you:thumbup:

caretaker Dec 28th 2017 6:00 am

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Fa la la la la, la la la la. It supposed to go to -22 this afternoon, people will be festive.

BristolUK Dec 28th 2017 6:35 am

Re: Winter 2017-18
 

Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12406261)
I'll guess the answer.
The passage of air over a moist surface forces evaporation and evaporation requires energy that it takes from its surroundings, ie skin, and hence it 'feels' as though the actual surroundings are cooler than they actually are because energy is being removed from them.

That's what I was thinking - tho in a less intellectual way. ;)
Although I remember stuff like that from my Physics classes at school, my reasoning went as far as thinking there's heat loss from our bodies because of the moisture and there's either no or a lot less moisture in grits of salt, so a "feels like" becomes meaningless. Therefore, if -15 was the point at which it became ineffective it would be fine with a -13 that feels like -22.

With little or no moisture in the gritty salt I wouldn't have thought the rest mattered.

None of which explains why the salt (supposedly good to -15 according to the bag) has worked fine on the steps at minus 22, feels like minus 32 but not at the bottom of the steps nor the bit of driveway next to it. :lol:


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