Is the whole of the UK now racist?
#31
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Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The growth of the farer right in Britain is eerily similar to that in the US where somewhat decent right centred politicians have been pushed out.
Social media has levelled the playing field for these folk who are able to appeal to more extreme elements of society and galvanize them.
It's right that folks should be prosecuted on social media for a certain type of rhetoric.
Racism is on the march and on the rise in all western countries and the fire is being doused with fuel.
Social media has levelled the playing field for these folk who are able to appeal to more extreme elements of society and galvanize them.
It's right that folks should be prosecuted on social media for a certain type of rhetoric.
Racism is on the march and on the rise in all western countries and the fire is being doused with fuel.
I agree with this. Trump's stint gave bigots permission to voice their feelings, not just in the USA. . People are more vocal and more aggressive. About it.
#32
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The UK and Britain is inherently multicultural - incorporating english, scottish, welsh and northern irish into the same country all with their different languages and traditions. A different flavour to immigrant nations like the US and Canada but still very tolerant.
#33
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The UK and Britain is inherently multicultural - incorporating english, scottish, welsh and northern irish into the same country all with their different languages and traditions. A different flavour to immigrant nations like the US and Canada but still very tolerant.
That said, London is a multi-culture and an immigrant city. Growing up, waves of immigration were represented on our street. Jews from around the time of WW2 (many nationalities). West Indians from the Windrush bus driver era. Indians. Pakistanis. Chinese, Poles (though they later came in much greater numbers). Immigration made us aware of the world, we used to chase the Biafrans with Polo mints.
#34
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Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
I don't think that the whole of the UK is racist. Only certain elements of British society are however racist. Brexit has also strengthened this.
Same as the recent UEFA cup and football. It's not racist either, but certain fans are racist.
Same as the recent UEFA cup and football. It's not racist either, but certain fans are racist.
#35
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The biggest problem is that the UK is led by a PM who is undoubtedly racist, and he is supported by a racist Home Secretary.
#36
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Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Boris may be blond haired and possibly see himself a some kind of Arian, but as far as I know he also a Middle Eastern background, namely from Turkey.
#37
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The online element has been mentioned. But what and where does this online influence come from. I have seen a big US influence, of things never really part of British culture.
memes get imported from the US, often with awkward edits. US vet worship is a good example, it was never a thing in the UK, outside 11/11. Now the internet has many vet and service person worship memes, the text is British related, but often if you look close the uniform or equipment is American.
Same with the flag shagging memes
Now you don't have to be a vet worshipper or a flag shagger to be racist, but In the US, they seem to be the entry drugs.
memes get imported from the US, often with awkward edits. US vet worship is a good example, it was never a thing in the UK, outside 11/11. Now the internet has many vet and service person worship memes, the text is British related, but often if you look close the uniform or equipment is American.
Same with the flag shagging memes
Now you don't have to be a vet worshipper or a flag shagger to be racist, but In the US, they seem to be the entry drugs.
#38
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
I don't imagine he has any personal view on race, I think he's an opportunistic racist, he judges that xenophobia fits the mood of the country and so he's a racist for the moment. He's PM and there's Brexit so I suppose him to be correct.
#39
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
The online element has been mentioned. But what and where does this online influence come from. I have seen a big US influence, of things never really part of British culture.
memes get imported from the US, often with awkward edits. US vet worship is a good example, it was never a thing in the UK, outside 11/11. Now the internet has many vet and service person worship memes, the text is British related, but often if you look close the uniform or equipment is American.
Same with the flag shagging memes
Now you don't have to be a vet worshipper or a flag shagger to be racist, but In the US, they seem to be the entry drugs.
memes get imported from the US, often with awkward edits. US vet worship is a good example, it was never a thing in the UK, outside 11/11. Now the internet has many vet and service person worship memes, the text is British related, but often if you look close the uniform or equipment is American.
Same with the flag shagging memes
Now you don't have to be a vet worshipper or a flag shagger to be racist, but In the US, they seem to be the entry drugs.
#40
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Letterboxes. Piccaninnies. Watermelon smiles. Failure to condemn booing of footballers taking the knee. His behavior is racist.
I don't imagine he has any personal view on race, I think he's an opportunistic racist, he judges that xenophobia fits the mood of the country and so he's a racist for the moment. He's PM and there's Brexit so I suppose him to be correct.
I don't imagine he has any personal view on race, I think he's an opportunistic racist, he judges that xenophobia fits the mood of the country and so he's a racist for the moment. He's PM and there's Brexit so I suppose him to be correct.
#41
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Yes, he's primarily classist but there's an overlap in that, if you're black or gammon, you're unlikely to belong to a class acceptable to him.
#43
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Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Now racist? It always has been: https://historicengland.org.uk/resea...nd-resistance/
Speak to anyone Black, Asian, African, etc. and they will confirm the UK has always been racist, even while it has diversified. If you're white, you would not necessarily see or experience it. But the UK has always been racist. Listen to your non-white friends about this topic, not your fellow white folk.
Speak to anyone Black, Asian, African, etc. and they will confirm the UK has always been racist, even while it has diversified. If you're white, you would not necessarily see or experience it. But the UK has always been racist. Listen to your non-white friends about this topic, not your fellow white folk.
Last edited by Lychee; Jul 16th 2021 at 2:00 am.
#44
Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Now racist? It always has been. Speak to anyone Black, Asian, African, etc. and they will confirm the UK has always been racist, even while it has diversified. If you're white, you would not necessarily see or experience it. But the UK has always been racist. Listen to your non-white friends about this topic, not your fellow white folk.
#45
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Re: Is the whole of the UK now racist?
Yes, prejudiced, but also racist. Again, this is a topic for us to listen to non-white folks about their experiences, being judged, dismissed, not given the benefit of the doubt, overlooked, threatened, despised, assaulted, etc. over the colour of their skin. This form of racism has always been present in the UK. The UK has always been racist. It's okay to feel uncomfortable about this.