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Piff Poff Dec 12th 2017 10:45 am

What happens to checked bags?
 
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scrubbedexpat091 Dec 12th 2017 11:59 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
I wish I had seen what was here before it was deleted.

I can give a general description of what happens.

Passenger checks it in.

The bag (airport dependent as different ones do things slightly different.) then makes it way through a variety of conveyor systems where the tag is scanned and directed to where it needs to go based on airline and destination.

During this ride through the system the bag will go through some security screening processes.

When the bag reaches its destination in the system, a kicker kicks the bag down to a pier where it sits until a human (I think some airports have robots) puts the bag into either an ULD or a cart depending on airline and aircraft.

Taken to aircraft, put on aircraft and sent on it's way.

Sometimes bags get lost in the system and miss their flight.

Piff Poff Dec 12th 2017 1:54 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12398798)
I wish I had seen what was here before it was deleted.

I can give a general description of what happens.

Passenger checks it in.

The bag (airport dependent as different ones do things slightly different.) then makes it way through a variety of conveyor systems where the tag is scanned and directed to where it needs to go based on airline and destination.

During this ride through the system the bag will go through some security screening processes.

When the bag reaches its destination in the system, a kicker kicks the bag down to a pier where it sits until a human (I think some airports have robots) puts the bag into either an ULD or a cart depending on airline and aircraft.

Taken to aircraft, put on aircraft and sent on it's way.

Sometimes bags get lost in the system and miss their flight.

Thanks J, we were wondering if we didn't get on a connecting flight, and our bags were off loaded, what happens to them?

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 12th 2017 3:28 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12398826)
Thanks J, we were wondering if we didn't get on a connecting flight, and our bags were off loaded, what happens to them?

They should be returned to the baggage room/staging area until you are either booked onto a new flight and retagged, or if not travelling then sent to baggage claim to be claimed by the passenger.

Piff Poff Dec 12th 2017 3:34 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12398866)
They should be returned to the baggage room/staging area until you are either booked onto a new flight and retagged, or if not travelling then sent to baggage claim to be claimed by the passenger.

Thanks

withabix Dec 13th 2017 10:19 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
After the baggage handling staff have used a biro to undetectably open the padlocked zip and taken ownership of your Christmas Presents, it will be returned to the carousel for collection...

Aviator Dec 13th 2017 10:56 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Piff Poff (Post 12398826)
Thanks J, we were wondering if we didn't get on a connecting flight, and our bags were off loaded, what happens to them?

If you are traveling international and connecting to domestic. You would collect your bags from the international terminal and re check them in at the domestic terminal.

Coming in on international you have to clear customs and immigration. Domestic does not have these controls.

Oink Dec 13th 2017 11:25 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
Does anybody have those "smart" luggage options? Not sure what features work well and would be useful.

bats Dec 13th 2017 11:38 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12399374)
After the baggage handling staff have used a biro to undetectably open tbbbhe padlocked zip and taken ownership of your Christmas Presents, it will be returned to the carousel for collection...

Thats nasty and uncalled for. You do know what Jsmith does for a living.

withabix Dec 13th 2017 1:41 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 12399400)
Thats nasty and uncalled for. You do know what Jsmith does for a living.

Except that does actually happen, so it isn’t. And I’m sure Jsmith knows it happens.

I didn’t say it happens at YVR. But you just need to Google to find out that it does.

There are even YouTube CCTV videos showing it being done.

Piff Poff Dec 13th 2017 3:41 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12399385)
If you are traveling international and connecting to domestic. You would collect your bags from the international terminal and re check them in at the domestic terminal.

Coming in on international you have to clear customs and immigration. Domestic does not have these controls.

The lady on the phone said we wouldn't collect the bags and re check them. Basically I ballsed up and we have ended up with 7 hour lay over in Calgary on the way home:eek:

Dorothy Dec 13th 2017 3:42 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12399437)
Except that does actually happen, so it isn’t. And I’m sure Jsmith knows it happens.

I didn’t say it happens at YVR. But you just need to Google to find out that it does.

There are even YouTube CCTV videos showing it being done.

Yes it does. I had a sari go missing between Honalulu and Auckland a few years ago. I put it in my case in Honalulu 5 minutes before I left for the airport. Got to Auckland and it wasn't there when I opened the bag. It certainly didn't open the case and walk away on its own.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 13th 2017 3:57 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
Theft does happen as more then one report of people being caught. Usually it's part of organized crime groups so tends to be more common at airports in city's with organized crime issues.

I have never seen anyone ever take anything and I certainly never would.

If anything I would worry more about the security screeners who can open bags as part of their job as well as customs who can also open bags.






Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12399437)
Except that does actually happen, so it isn’t. And I’m sure Jsmith knows it happens.

I didn’t say it happens at YVR. But you just need to Google to find out that it does.

There are even YouTube CCTV videos showing it being done.


BristolUK Dec 13th 2017 11:38 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12399459)
I had a sari go missing between Honalulu and Auckland a few years ago.

Did you ask David Beckham about it? He got one from somewhere a few years ago.

bats Dec 14th 2017 1:43 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12399437)
Except that does actually happen, so it isn’t. And I’m sure Jsmith knows it happens.

I didn’t say it happens at YVR. But you just need to Google to find out that it does.

There are even YouTube CCTV videos showing it being done.

I did type a reply to this but ballsed up the posting part. Yes of course it does happen I had some stuff go missing when my luggage went the long way round to Paris. I thought your implication was that all baggage handlers were theives and that this was bound to happen. Otherwise why mention it?

Vulcanoid Dec 14th 2017 1:55 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Aviator (Post 12399385)
If you are traveling international and connecting to domestic. You would collect your bags from the international terminal and re check them in at the domestic terminal.

Coming in on international you have to clear customs and immigration. Domestic does not have these controls.

Unless you're through ticketed on an airline & airport that do all of that for you. It's extremely relaxing to drop eight bags off at Gatwick, and not see them again until Kelowna, avoiding faffing about with them at YVR.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 14th 2017 5:52 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12399395)
Does anybody have those "smart" luggage options? Not sure what features work well and would be useful.

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Oink Dec 14th 2017 9:11 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
That's good to know. Thanks. :thumbup:

Shard Dec 17th 2017 10:21 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 
What's the general rule on lithium batteries. Isn't it just the larger 'powerbank' batteries that are banned from luggage ? I've packed laptops and never had any problems. Too many artificial rules these days.

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 18th 2017 4:55 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12401464)
What's the general rule on lithium batteries. Isn't it just the larger 'powerbank' batteries that are banned from luggage ? I've packed laptops and never had any problems. Too many artificial rules these days.

Rules will vary by country, and I can only say for US airlines.

For the US lithium batteries that are installed in a device are generally permitted in checked luggage and permitted in carry on.

Spare lithium batteries not installed in a device are banned from checked luggage, and must be carried on and are subjected to limits.

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/

Shard Dec 18th 2017 6:18 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12401660)
Rules will vary by country, and I can only say for US airlines.

For the US lithium batteries that are installed in a device are generally permitted in checked luggage and permitted in carry on.

Spare lithium batteries not installed in a device are banned from checked luggage, and must be carried on and are subjected to limits.

https://www.faa.gov/about/initiatives/hazmat_safety/

Do they scan bags for this, and would they open a bag if they found it had a spare Lithium battery?

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 18th 2017 6:38 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12401701)
Do they scan bags for this, and would they open a bag if they found it had a spare Lithium battery?

Bags are scanned and anything banned should be caught and removed by security in theory.

Most US airlines will ask at check in if you have such items in your bag.

Shard Dec 18th 2017 7:36 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12401713)
Bags are scanned and anything banned should be caught and removed by security in theory.

Most US airlines will ask at check in if you have such items in your bag.

American security has a master key to luggage these days, don't they?

scrubbedexpat091 Dec 18th 2017 8:07 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12401739)
American security has a master key to luggage these days, don't they?

They do.

For zippered luggage all you need is a ball point pen to open even if locked.


In all honesty cardboard moving boxes tapped up are more secure then most luggage and are a fraction of the cost, but lack the cool factor.

Wrapping the bag up in cling film from the grocery store also works to secure the bag, but there is a risk of needing to open the bag at the airport by customs or security so it can also be a pain in the arse.

Those who think its us humans who cause damage to the bags, we are not the main cause, the biggest cause is the automate systems, they call them baggage pushers, but we call them kickers and they do a number on bags especially hard sided bags that crack.


Aviator Dec 18th 2017 8:29 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12401739)
American security has a master key to luggage these days, don't they?

Unless you have a high security combination lock!

Vulcanoid Dec 18th 2017 9:02 am

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12401757)
Those who think its us humans who cause damage to the bags, we are not the main cause, the biggest cause is the automate systems, they call them baggage pushers, but we call them kickers and they do a number on bags especially hard sided bags that crack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MZqiE3yGlQ

I have never been more shocked in how every bottle, glass, and mug I've flown with has survived unscathed :/

jennellapea Dec 19th 2017 12:06 pm

Re: What happens to checked bags?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12401701)
Do they scan bags for this, and would they open a bag if they found it had a spare Lithium battery?

They definitely do at the checkpoint and you will be sent back to the carrier if it's too much.

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