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Jingsamichty Aug 24th 2023 12:59 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13211310)
He is.
I remain in touch.

I am very glad to hear that, thank you.

Shard Aug 24th 2023 1:04 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13211314)
I am very glad to hear that, thank you.

+1

CanadaJimmy Aug 24th 2023 4:38 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 
The migration to facebook groups and discord has taken it's toll on "old web" style forums like this for sure. It is incredible how centralized the web is in comparison to how it used to be.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fh1XCdla...jpg&name=large


Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13211310)
He is.
I remain in touch.

I'm glad to hear JSmith is ok as well. Always felt for him as he was such a victim of BCs terrible housing policies and lack of social supports.



JamesM Aug 24th 2023 5:53 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 
I remember at one point we discussed how the site had gone from niche to main stream. That was probably a decade ago.

We'll see how long it goes. The owners must surely check the data.

I guess it is still profitable.

Gordon Barlow Aug 24th 2023 5:55 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 13211380)
I remember at one point we discussed how the site had gone from niche to main stream. That was probably a decade ago.

We'll see how long it goes. The owners must surely check the data.

I guess it is still profitable.

How do they make their money? (I've no idea!)

Pollyana Aug 24th 2023 6:45 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 13211381)
How do they make their money? (I've no idea!)

Advertising.

Pollyana Aug 24th 2023 6:47 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13211310)
He is.
I remain in touch.

Another one glad to hear he's ok.

BristolUK Aug 24th 2023 7:51 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 13211381)
How do they make their money? (I've no idea!)

Tax havens ;)

Gordon Barlow Aug 24th 2023 8:14 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Pollyana (Post 13211399)
Advertising.

Well I'll be damned! I've never pressed that button before. Huh. So BE's not just a place to keep us occupied and off the streets!

Chocolate eclair Aug 24th 2023 9:03 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13211310)
He is.
I remain in touch.

That's good to know.
I miss Siouxie too. She was a great person to have around. She sent me a couple of lovely private messages a while back. Unfortunately, the old black dog was hanging around and I didn't reply. I regret that so much.

old.sparkles Aug 24th 2023 12:15 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Chocolate eclair (Post 13211436)
That's good to know.
I miss Siouxie too. She was a great person to have around. She sent me a couple of lovely private messages a while back. Unfortunately, the old black dog was hanging around and I didn't reply. I regret that so much.

Siouxie had a 'homepage linked to her BE - https://www.facebook.com/SukarmaProductions/

Not sure if she checks it but you may be able to message her there.

She may also have a general FB page - others may know.

ann m Aug 24th 2023 4:30 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 13211315)
+1

Me too, good to hear

Oink Aug 25th 2023 6:12 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 
No matter what changed our experience with this BB, I really enjoyed all of you and all of your contributions. I loved living Canada but I have to go back to the US. I'll miss it. Thanks!

dbd33 Aug 26th 2023 12:28 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 13211725)
No matter what changed our experience with this BB, I really enjoyed all of you and all of your contributions. I loved living Canada but I have to go back to the US. I'll miss it. Thanks!

Do they have the internet there?

Partially discharged Aug 26th 2023 1:25 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13211778)
Do they have the internet there?

Dial up has reached a few areas and that is as good as it gets.

JamesM Aug 26th 2023 7:23 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 
You won't miss Canada.

Boats cost a fortune.

You were close with Alan and Butch?? Keep close!

Chocolate eclair Aug 26th 2023 7:51 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by old.sparkles (Post 13211462)
Siouxie had a 'homepage linked to her BE - https://www.facebook.com/SukarmaProductions/

Not sure if she checks it but you may be able to message her there.

She may also have a general FB page - others may know.

Many thanks OS. Taking a break from Fb for a while but I'll keep it in mind for the future.

abner Aug 27th 2023 3:25 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 
Well I'm a little surprised not to see an obvious explanation raised -- CoVID knocked legal immigration from and to nearly all countries on its head, for two years solid. And it has only partially recovered since.

***

BE has always been a combination of posts on:

- How to emigrate from one country to another (mostly high-quality, highly technical posts, about visas, banking issues, quarantine, etc.)
- What to expect on arrival in new country X... (mostly of Anglosphere expats and emigrants)
- More general/longer term experiences of new country X
- "Lounge-type" discussions of politics

It's a user-driven forum without an obvious revenue model to sustain its operation, or market itself to regenerate previous levels of interest. Its potential longterm -- true -- value lies in preserving the first two categories of posts, and fostering community participation leading to further posts of those types.

In contrast, during the CoVID lockdown, the divisiness and rancour of posts in the last category has squelched a lot of ongoing participation. (And yes, I've sometimes been guilty of the mud-wrestling involved...)

But there is little else going on. And it's not clear to me how to rescucitate BE from there.



BristolUK Aug 28th 2023 2:40 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 13212059)
Well I'm a little surprised not to see an obvious explanation raised -- CoVID knocked legal immigration from and to nearly all countries on its head, for two years solid. And it has only partially recovered since.

***

BE has always been a combination of posts on:

- How to emigrate from one country to another (mostly high-quality, highly technical posts, about visas, banking issues, quarantine, etc.)
- What to expect on arrival in new country X... (mostly of Anglosphere expats and emigrants)
- More general/longer term experiences of new country X
- "Lounge-type" discussions of politics

It's a user-driven forum without an obvious revenue model to sustain its operation, or market itself to regenerate previous levels of interest. .

That is a perfectly reasonable explanation but things had dropped off considerably some time before covid.
I used to be a regular in the Canada section, only ever venturing anywhere else to the lab.

For some time it was too busy to keep up. I could compose a reply and by the time I posted there might be half a dozen new posts on that thread just in the time I was typing. It was hard to keep up.

But 2 or 3 years before covid, things got so quiet that I wandered off to the lounge and tio and became a regular there.

Gordon Barlow Aug 28th 2023 8:28 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by abner (Post 13212059)
...It's a user-driven forum without an obvious revenue model to sustain its operation, or market itself to regenerate previous levels of interest....

But there is little else going on. And it's not clear to me how to resuscitate BE from there.

18 months ago, I started a thread on the Australian Barbie forum called "Why so few shrimps on the barbie?" - seeking a reason for the low turnout there. Sadly, my eventual conclusion ran afoul of BE's Rule 15, and was not published. However, the thread was re-named, and has become reasonably active again as a place to discuss the wide variety of topics that arise at weekend barbecues throughout Australia.

Nevertheless, this Maple Leaf forum is a hive of activity, compared with its Australian cousin!

christmasoompa Aug 28th 2023 8:50 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 13212168)
18 months ago, I started a thread on the Australian Barbie forum called "Why so few shrimps on the barbie?" - seeking a reason for the low turnout there. Sadly, my eventual conclusion ran afoul of BE's Rule 15, and was not published. However, the thread was re-named, and has become reasonably active again as a place to discuss the wide variety of topics that arise at weekend barbecues throughout Australia.

Nevertheless, this Maple Leaf forum is a hive of activity, compared with its Australian cousin!

You know the rules pretty well, you've been given a lot of leeway with them over the years. So it can't have been a surprise that that post was deleted. IIRC, with the Barbie there were specific members that drove others away with their endless squabbling and antagonistic views. They were (I think) got rid of in the end (ironically, amid many complaints about lack of mod action - we really can't win whatever we do), but by then it was too late and a lot of the regulars had been lost. It's been quiet since then.

Bottom line is that BE is a discussion forum, and those are dying out in the modern age. BE is kept afloat by newbies that pop by to ask questions about immigration or life in another country, and by the regulars that use BE as their 'pub' and to chat to their friends or have an interesting discussion whilst propping up the bar. If people are interested in what you're discussing then they'll reply. If you don't get responses, then it's a discussion nobody else is interested in and there's no point in endlessly resurrecting it. Plus that's another site rule broken if you do 'bump' threads…….;):lol:

Jingsamichty Aug 28th 2023 7:27 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13212174)
You know the rules pretty well, you've been given a lot of leeway with them over the years. So it can't have been a surprise that that post was deleted. IIRC, with the Barbie there were specific members that drove others away with their endless squabbling and antagonistic views. They were (I think) got rid of in the end (ironically, amid many complaints about lack of mod action - we really can't win whatever we do), but by then it was too late and a lot of the regulars had been lost. It's been quiet since then.

Bottom line is that BE is a discussion forum, and those are dying out in the modern age. BE is kept afloat by newbies that pop by to ask questions about immigration or life in another country, and by the regulars that use BE as their 'pub' and to chat to their friends or have an interesting discussion whilst propping up the bar. If people are interested in what you're discussing then they'll reply. If you don't get responses, then it's a discussion nobody else is interested in and there's no point in endlessly resurrecting it. Plus that's another site rule broken if you do 'bump' threads…….;):lol:

Exactly how I see BE. Cheers.:beer:

old.sparkles Aug 28th 2023 11:05 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13212211)
Exactly how I see BE. Cheers.:beer:

:drinkingpals:

christmasoompa Aug 28th 2023 11:06 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13212211)
Exactly how I see BE. Cheers.:beer:

Mine’s a G&T. Cheers!

Shard Aug 28th 2023 11:29 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13212126)
That is a perfectly reasonable explanation but things had dropped off considerably some time before covid.
I used to be a regular in the Canada section, only ever venturing anywhere else to the lab.

For some time it was too busy to keep up. I could compose a reply and by the time I posted there might be half a dozen new posts on that thread just in the time I was typing. It was hard to keep up.

But 2 or 3 years before covid, things got so quiet that I wandered off to the lounge and tio and became a regular there.

Ditto.

Shard Aug 28th 2023 11:31 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 13212168)
18 months ago, I started a thread on the Australian Barbie forum called "Why so few shrimps on the barbie?" - seeking a reason for the low turnout there. Sadly, my eventual conclusion ran afoul of BE's Rule 15, and was not published. However, the thread was re-named, and has become reasonably active again as a place to discuss the wide variety of topics that arise at weekend barbecues throughout Australia.

Nevertheless, this Maple Leaf forum is a hive of activity, compared with its Australian cousin!

What's the new thread called, I was thinking of searing some shrimps on the Aussie barbie ? I am on the orignal thread.

Gordon Barlow Aug 29th 2023 3:43 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13212174)
You know the rules pretty well, you've been given a lot of leeway with them over the years. So it can't have been a surprise that that post was deleted. IIRC, with the Barbie there were specific members that drove others away with their endless squabbling and antagonistic views. They were (I think) got rid of in the end (ironically, amid many complaints about lack of mod action - we really can't win whatever we do), but by then it was too late and a lot of the regulars had been lost. It's been quiet since then.

Bottom line is that BE is a discussion forum, and those are dying out in the modern age. BE is kept afloat by newbies that pop by to ask questions about immigration or life in another country, and by the regulars that use BE as their 'pub' and to chat to their friends or have an interesting discussion whilst propping up the bar. If people are interested in what you're discussing then they'll reply. If you don't get responses, then it's a discussion nobody else is interested in and there's no point in endlessly resurrecting it. Plus that's another site rule broken if you do 'bump' threads…….;):lol:

Points taken. I have indeed been "bumping" my threads. In a good cause, always, and influenced by their apparent readership, but it's hard work sometimes, and I will stop doing it. (I don't actually set out to break The Rules, you know.)

The Rest of the World forum was dead in the water for a long while before I tried to invigorate it with the "Back in the Day" thread, but it's probably not worth the effort. I did abandon five other threads there, so I have no problem letting another one die. I killed nine threads on the Cayman Islands forum, back in the day...

I'd like to keep my Barbie thread going, if that's okay with you. It's the only thread with staying power, in that forum.

My Maple Leaf thread ... Well, as one of the regulars grumbled the other day, there's not much about Canada in it! It's quite popular (judging by the reported readership), but I can drop that one too, if you want. Or at least cut back on off-road topics like offshore tax-havens! Let me know, please.

christmasoompa Aug 29th 2023 12:42 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Gordon Barlow (Post 13212304)
Points taken. I have indeed been "bumping" my threads. In a good cause, always, and influenced by their apparent readership, but it's hard work sometimes, and I will stop doing it. (I don't actually set out to break The Rules, you know.)

The Rest of the World forum was dead in the water for a long while before I tried to invigorate it with the "Back in the Day" thread, but it's probably not worth the effort. I did abandon five other threads there, so I have no problem letting another one die. I killed nine threads on the Cayman Islands forum, back in the day...

I'd like to keep my Barbie thread going, if that's okay with you. It's the only thread with staying power, in that forum.

My Maple Leaf thread ... Well, as one of the regulars grumbled the other day, there's not much about Canada in it! It's quite popular (judging by the reported readership), but I can drop that one too, if you want. Or at least cut back on off-road topics like offshore tax-havens! Let me know, please.

If a thread is generating discussion then there is no need to drop it at all. It's only the threads that nobody ever responds to that shouldn't be 'bumped' repeatedly (ignore the 'viewed' stats, as they are misleading). Often threads turn in to something else from the original intended purpose, but that can be a good thing, as evidenced by the thread in the Barbie which is generating some interesting discussions. Off topic isn't a problem at all in general discussion threads.

Pollyana Aug 29th 2023 8:04 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by christmasoompa (Post 13212364)
If a thread is generating discussion then there is no need to drop it at all. It's only the threads that nobody ever responds to that shouldn't be 'bumped' repeatedly (ignore the 'viewed' stats, as they are misleading). Often threads turn in to something else from the original intended purpose, but that can be a good thing, as evidenced by the thread in the Barbie which is generating some interesting discussions. Off topic isn't a problem at all in general discussion threads.

I don't think there's any need to worry about bumping it in case it falls out of sight - the Barbie is so dead these days that threads on the front page go as far back as last December :eek: so even if its not posted on for a couple of months its still ging to be high on the list :D

Pizzawheel Nov 11th 2023 7:07 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 
I drifted away and the rest is history!

Pizzawheel Feb 27th 2024 7:48 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 
And I broke this thread too...

🥲

dbd33 Feb 27th 2024 8:02 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Pizzawheel (Post 13242648)
And I broke this thread too...

🥲

Give it time, there's a slower pace now.

Pulaski Feb 28th 2024 5:22 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 13242649)
Give it time, there's a slower pace now.

:yawn:

Jingsamichty Feb 28th 2024 7:19 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 
This is Canada, remember. The Maple Leaf is quiet these days because everyone has gone over to MySpace.

BristolUK Feb 28th 2024 11:49 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13242846)
This is Canada, remember. The Maple Leaf is quiet these days because everyone has gone over to MySpace.

I had to google that.

Red Hot Chili Peppers, Nine Inch Nails, Slipknot and KISS
It's always the quiet, polite, ones that surprise you. :rofl:

Jingsamichty Feb 29th 2024 1:22 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 13242871)
I had to google that.

Maybe Myspace hasn't reached NB yet... :rofl:

BristolUK Feb 29th 2024 1:26 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Jingsamichty (Post 13242898)
Maybe Myspace hasn't reached NB yet... :rofl:

We do have trees though


OrangeMango Mar 6th 2024 8:57 am

Re: What happened to this place?
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 13210185)
This was once such a vibrant and supportive community. Did everybody just get over of being a foreigner or "the other"?

The problem is probably the attitude today. The answer today is always: Search the internet, read, and remind others that they have to do the same...

I am personally mostly turning to a forum for practical experiences one had with whatever, not the theories. ( I can read them myself )

I don't even think that some readers do get what I mean.

DownUnder69 Mar 6th 2024 12:39 pm

Re: What happened to this place?
 
Oui. And maple syrup. Good stuff, that. Even mixed with vodka. In fact it makes vodka all the more palatable.

Also poutine râpée. Or did you miss my post about that?

I have long wondered why the French (in France) have never taken to this dish. Or tourtiere, 'tho I believe this latter is basically a Breton peasant dish, migrated over to Canada when the first settled came to New France in the 1600s, and then to New Brunswick.

But I digress. In this thread we are after all not talking about food...

All this said, I remain as ever, culinarily yours.


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