What do you think is hazardous?
 

Going on from the poles thread, I started thinking about how many things there are around today that a person does not really want to be around. For instance:

Those silicone baking mats - my friend wont use them because she says the silicone might get into the food.

Plastic bottles - I admit I buy that flavoured water but I don't drink enough water and I figure so long as a drink them by the "due" date then I am better off getting the chemicals than I am being dehydrated. But I would not think of refilling one of those cheap plastic bottles.

Teflon in pots and pans - I am not keen on it but I use them all the same.

All baking pans have some kind of a non-stick surface on them.

Anti-bacterial soap, lotion etc. - I avoid it if I can.

Chemicals -- well now - unless you grow your own food and wheat and make your own flour and keep your own cows - etc. - I really cannot imagine anything in this day and age that doesn't involve chemicals. The food, the packaging, the containers - you name it - everything has something in it with some long unpronounceable name.

I have heard that organic food is just as likely, or maybe even more likely to make you sick than non-organic food.

I suppose there is really no way of telling whether those things are REALLY bad for you because for every article you read that say they are going to kill you - there is a corresponding article saying that this is bunk! And vice versa.

As a friend said - being alive is hazardous to your health.

I suppose the thing is that we want things easy, we don't want cast iron baking pans and making soap out of lye and some kind of meat fat etc.

When I look around this room, every darn thing is made of plastic except for a chair I got in an estate sale - well and baseboards, doors and window frames - they are wood - oh - and the paper! Is plastic per se bad for you?

I mean to say - what in a "civilized" country in 2007 can a person do to avoid all these things? Is there a way?

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Pretty much all of these things are harmless. What people should worry a lot more about is having a healthy diet and taking regular exercise. Not smoking and only drinking in moderation. These things will have a far greater effect on your health than anything the tabloids like to get excited about.

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Except for the third sentence, I agree with this wholeheartedly.

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Not in the slightest. Most plastics are almost totally inert, if not totally inert. If you burn them there might be some toxic gases generated, but thats not what we are talking about in terms of water bottles and bakeware.

Let me put my "Almost got a PhD in Materials Science" hat on for a minute.....The only thing I am aware of as toxic is that PVC might contain a small trace of the un polymerised vinyl chloride, which is why PVC is not used in food applications.

There is a lot of money to be made in encouraging a climate of fear, it sells a lot of magazines and the like, but plastics are with very few exceptions harmless, the nature of them means that the chemical bonds that make them are really strong, and are very hard to break down to encourage them to react with anything else.

Even in the extreme case of heating a teflon pan ultra hot, the danger posed is incredibly small. We are exposed to risks of all sorts all the time, and things like smoking and alcohol and bad diet and lack of excercise will have an infinitely larger influence on wellbeing.

Personally I think that the stress of worrying about teflon cookware and bottled water does far more long term damage to your health than any chemicals, real or imagined, that you might be exposed to in day to day life with plastics. Teflon (PTFE) is inert. if you eat it, it will pass straight through.

Silicone (oil) is associated with some very serious health effects from leaking breast implants, but that is in no way related to the silicone rubber bake ware.

The scaremongering over "toxic teflon" would make me laugh if it didnt highlight what a technologically illiterate and paranoid society we live in.

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I don't agree with all the anti bacterial stuff they want you to buy to protect your children. How are you meant to build up your immune system if your not exposed as a child to common virus's such as colds/flu.

A clean house is sufficient, we don't need a sterile environment.

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I didn't realise sweetcorn was made of Teflon.

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Thats our attitude too. All the antibacterial this and that puts me in mind of the way antibiotics were handed out like smarties by the medical comunity in the past...how long before another generation of super resistant bugs comes along as a result.

Over protecting kids (and adults) from every little thing is a recipe for disaster in the long run.

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You are supposed to chew it...but you knew that right;)

Try giving raisins to a kid without much in the way of teeth yet...its always surprising what comes out the other end:)

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Yeh, a bit of dirt is good for you. Well thats what my gran used to say and it never did me any harm, well I don't think it did others may disagree;):D

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Of your list the only ones i try to avoid are the chemicals. Pretty hard here where chemicals are even added to milk and butter. I buy fresh food, no kits food, no flavouring mixes and thats it.
Oh and i believe in using gin and tonic, gin martinis and wine as a throat disinfectant ;)

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I always think it's pretty funny when people say they avoid "chemicals". Everything's made up of "chemicals".

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Oh dont be such a ruddy pedant. You know what we mean. Things listed as a formula not a name.

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The drug addicts that live next door.
The cars that go 100mph down the new by pass to our village
The cars that go 100mph through our village racing the ones above.
Perpetrators who carry out domestic abuse
People who carry out offenses against a child

I know they are more than hazardous but they have to be worse than a lot of things ingested.

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Diving off the top board at the local pool, when the pool is empty is pretty hazardous ;)

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OOh, I've never seen you when you're angry.

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lol, I'm angry most of the time.. mrs angry :curse::curse: thats when i'm not being bitter and twisted

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Yes, I tend to agree. You couldn't live if you tried to avoid everything that some people think hazardous.

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My wife's hazardous, can't possibly avoid her though.

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Thanks for that! - I now have to clean up the mouthful of water I just spat all over my keyboard while trying not to laugh. :D

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You should know by now not to eat or drink anything while on BE:rofl:

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The site should come with that warning when you join ;)

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[QUOTE=boxerdog03;5218037]I don't agree with all the anti bacterial stuff they want you to buy to protect your children. How are you meant to build up your immune system if your not exposed as a child to common virus's such as colds/flu.

I dunno.. i am an addict when it comes to lathering my kids`hands with sanitizing disinfectant when we get on and off the metro( subway) or the bus. I wont even touch the hand rails , rather fall on me bum than touch it :)

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[QUOTE=zalaben;5218955]Err. Why?

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[QUOTE=bazzz;5218957]why what?

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Why do you cover your kids hands in disinfectant and risk serious injury on public transport by ignoring the safety features?

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I was replying to Boxerdog who mentioned that she didnt agree with antibactirial stuff for kids. You shouldnt take me so literally:p

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You really are a bunch of bloody hypochondriacs aren't you?!

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans!

Avoiding bottled water because it's in a plastic bottle - Um, hello, where do you think water comes from? The big dirty ground or the even dirtier pipes in the ground, half of which are lead!!

Avoiding teflon in cooking pans?! Well that's gotta be the most stupid thing I've heard!

And to all those people who lather their kids in anti-septics etc, get a god damned grip!! Your kids are going to grow up with no immunity to anything, are they going to live in a sealed plastic bubble all their lives?!

AAARRRGH! Some people drive me CrAzY!!!!

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thats obvious, having a bad day are you dear?

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Not a "bad" day... A difficult day... lol

Does it show?!

It's ok though, I'll be washing my day away in some club or other in a few short hours :D

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You work in the food industry - you'd better be using antibacterial handwash;)

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I don't count, I've already built up my immune system rolling around in muck :)

P.S. I was always of the opinion that if you pee'd on your hands then you didn't need to wash them?? :D

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Funny though, we survived for years and years (some say millions of them) before antibacterial hand-wash (and all its nefarious relations) existed, and now all of a sudden every second kid in the Canadian school system is at risk if expiring if they come within 200ft of a peanut.

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I feel your pains!

have fun clubbing

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Thanks, I intend to!

Then I can wake up tomorrow and have another difficult day with the added bonus of a head ache! lol