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Old Jul 26th 2017, 10:43 pm
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Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd
...a bit like the golliwog motif being removed from the Robertson's marmalade label...When i was growing up as a child, no one saw anything wrong with the label,
Anyone white, maybe.

We probably thought nothing of the book Little Black Sambo either.

I think my sister even had one of those dolls!
I had one too. It was considered more boyish than other dolls.

For a year or so my best friend at infants/junior school, until he moved away, was a West Indian kid. One of our games involved him chasing me and to get him to do that I used to call him black man.

It was all innocent fun - or was it? Why did he chase me when I said that? Maybe he didn't like it.
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Old Jul 26th 2017, 10:44 pm
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They've probably had them forever and don't even think about how they might be viewed.
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Old Jul 26th 2017, 11:16 pm
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When I was a child a teacher told the class, a multi racial class, that the reason black people had pink palms of their hands was that they asked god if they could be white. He said yes and all they had to do was wash in the river but being black they were late and the river had almost run dry so they were only able to wash the palms of their hands and the doles of their feet.


A black friend has commented on the photo. She says she doesn't mind those as at least they characters aren't doing anything related to skavery, picking cotton, jockeys, and so on.
So thanked me for caring which made me emotional.
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Old Jul 26th 2017, 11:37 pm
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I still have my golliwog. He's tucked away.
I got him for my 4th birthday. I'm sure the only reason I begged my parents for him was because he had bright clothing and a big smile.

So many times people read in to things way too much and find negative meaning in stuff that was created innocently.

I loved the magic roundabout. Again it was innocent. Only in later years did I hear about the creators colorful background of such an innocent program.

When my 24 year old was maybe 12/13 he mentioned a friend one day. I asked if he was talking about the black one. He was mortified. But if the kid had been ginger or extra tall, short, fat or thin I would have described him as such. I meant no harm just needed a way of identifying him.

I'm not racist but these days you can't open your mouth without risking putting your foot in it!
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Old Jul 26th 2017, 11:59 pm
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
I loved the magic roundabout. Again it was innocent. Only in later years did I hear about the creators colorful background of such an innocent program....
OMG what have I missed?

I've done some googling and all I can find is people having a bit of fun with supposed hidden meanings.

There have been a few myths about Captain Pugwash that have been debunked.

Now, The Wombles of Wimbledon Common...they were surely up to no good. Collecting litter? Not a chance. You can't trust Bernard Cribbins just because he was in Doctor Who.
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Old Jul 27th 2017, 12:28 am
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
... but these days you can't open your mouth without risking putting your foot in it!
I can't think of anything wrong with describing a black person as black.
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Old Jul 27th 2017, 1:21 am
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I can't think of anything wrong with describing a black person as black.
I don't think there is. On our recent trip people were called black, African American, person of colour. Slaves were called enslaved people.
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Old Jul 27th 2017, 2:12 am
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Us Honkies need to stick together and try not to get upset when we're called 'white'.
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I used to work with a black guy who as an individual managed to remove all the treading on eggshells political correctness behaviour around skin colour, infact he used to often bring up the subject and mock it, he was a great guy and we all formed a great working and personal relationship with him, as he was so easy going.

Its a two way street though, we as white guys were not racially prejudiced people and he as black guy born in the UK to Jamacian parents had no chip on his shoulder attitude about his skin colour, (although im sure he may have had reason too in the past) but he rose above that, and saw each person he met in life for who they were, and also bought some humour into the whole racial thing which broke the ice. I think thats why we all hit it off. Both "sides" for want of a better word knew that we were just good decent people who wanted to move forward with life and have a good relationship with one and other.

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Originally Posted by BristolUK
OMG what have I missed?

I've done some googling and all I can find is people having a bit of fun with supposed hidden meanings.
I've been told by several people they were as high as kites! Maybe that's ok I don't know. I loved the program so I'm glad they fabled a little. Lol
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
I can't think of anything wrong with describing a black person as black.
Neither can I! I don't know how long ago you left England but I remember black being a NoNo to describe people of African descent. I was surprised at how much it was used here..
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Neither can I! I don't know how long ago you left England but I remember black being a NoNo to describe people of African descent. I was surprised at how much it was used here..
It was last century. I have never had a problem with words. They are just words. It is the thought (or lack of) behind them that concerns me at times.
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Originally Posted by JonboyE
It was last century. I have never had a problem with words. They are just words. It is the thought (or lack of) behind them that concerns me at times.
I agree totally. nobody ever screams racist when caucasians are called white. I've studied my skin a lot over the years and I'm not white!! I'm more a variety of shades of beige depending on the time of year!
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Originally Posted by DandNHill
I've been told by several people they were as high as kites! Maybe that's ok I don't know. I loved the program so I'm glad they fabled a little. Lol
Tonight I watched Sprung! The Magic Roundabout movie from 2005.
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