Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Student who stabbed boyfriend may avoid jail as it would ‘damage her career’
Judge Ian Pringle QC, sitting at Oxford crown court, said he would take an “exceptional” course and defer sentence for four months, hinting that Woodward will not be jailed because of her talent... ...stabbed her then-boyfriend in the leg after punching him in the face. She then hurled a laptop, glass and jam jar at him during the attack |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12254385)
Student who stabbed boyfriend may avoid jail as it would ‘damage her career’
So far the Guardian's columnists have been strangely silent. :nod: |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by mikelincs
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Yes, but if you read the article, then she will never be allowed to become a surgeon as her criminal record will bar her from being registered by the BMA...
No doubt the Guardian will get around to some 'opinion' pieces about it. Had it been a talented man assaulting his partner we'd have seen a few articles by now about how men are allowed to get away with this, how the judiciary is forgiving of violent men etc. I suspect if they do run one it will be along the lines of how this is different. I love the Guardian but it's becoming increasingly guilty of double standards. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
She seems to have a typical surgeon personality. ;)
I doubt her brilliance would be a factor if she were anything but a posh Oxford student. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by BristolUK
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I love the Guardian but it's becoming increasingly guilty of double standards. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Dorothy
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I don't think it's the Guardian who's guilty of double standards here. It's the magistrate who decided not to jail a violent offender simply because she's "smart"
In any event, he seems to have done his job properly by weighing up the evidence, looking at the options available to him and made his decision accordingly. If the crown believes that what he did was wrong, they can appeal. Very rarely in sentencing, is there a one size fits all approach and I am happy about that. There is nothing to suggest that she definitely won't go to jail and he appears to be taking a "wait and see" approach. Seems perfectly sensible to me. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by bats
(Post 12254488)
She seems to have a typical surgeon personality. ;)
I doubt her brilliance would be a factor if she were anything but a posh Oxford student. From my reading of it, it sounds as if the opposite was true and that she has had a "troubled life." |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
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Where did the article mention that she was "posh"?
From my reading of it, it sounds as if the opposite was true and that she has had a "troubled life." |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Dorothy
(Post 12254502)
I don't think it's the Guardian who's guilty of double standards here. It's the magistrate who decided not to jail a violent offender simply because she's "smart"
As it happens the paper seems to have resolved any dilemma by "removing" or hiding the report. It's now filed under 'crime' which is not one of the categories on the main page nor even in the list of links by subject when one opens the category menu. So unless you know the report is there, you won't find it. :( |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Souvy
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Brilliance aside, would you really put your life in the hands of someone like that?
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Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Souvy
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Brilliance aside, would you really put your life in the hands of someone like that?
One unfortunate downside of such practice is that one is reluctant to place one's life in the hands of any surgeon. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
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There is nothing to suggest that she definitely won't go to jail and he appears to be taking a "wait and see" approach. Seems perfectly sensible to me.
"Adjourning for reports" isn't uncommon but that doesn't seem to be the case here. The judge himself used the word exceptional to describe it. Of course, that doesn't make it wrong, but she's not the first first offender is she? Is waiting and seeing for 4 months the norm for first time offenders?
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12254555)
Where did the article mention that she was "posh"?
And that's without looking at the man representing her. For decades Jim has represented celebrities, high net worth individuals (and many of their children), company directors, corporate clients and sports stars both in the UK and across the globe. Posh, I reckon. :nod: |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Plus she's quite fit but at 24 she doesn't want to spend her last few "doable" years in prison. That'd be a waste.
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Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 12254555)
Where did the article mention that she was "posh"?
From my reading of it, it sounds as if the opposite was true and that she has had a "troubled life." That article isn't my only reading on this subject. |
Re: Violent student may avoid custodial sentence due to talent
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12254586)
I can only go by newspaper reports but waiting and seeing for four months doesn't seem the usual approach in such cases.
"Adjourning for reports" isn't uncommon but that doesn't seem to be the case here. The judge himself used the word exceptional to describe it. Of course, that doesn't make it wrong, but she's not the first first offender is she? Is waiting and seeing for 4 months the norm for first time offenders?
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 12254586)
It might be a tad presumptuous but one might conclude that someone who actually lives in Italy with her mother while attending Oxford University is perhaps a little "better placed" than most.
And that's without looking at the man representing her. For decades Jim has represented celebrities, high net worth individuals (and many of their children), company directors, corporate clients and sports stars both in the UK and across the globe. Posh, I reckon. :nod: Not everyone that attends Oxford is wealthy but most, I accept, are intelligent. She may be incurring huge debts to enable herself to attend. As for her lawyer, he may have taken this case on pro bono, or via legal aid. |
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