Us goods and travel boycott
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Us goods and travel boycott
Is anyone else doing this? I've qlways tried to buy local as far as produce is concerned but now I'm checking everything to buy Canadian first and to avoid US goods. I won't be vacationing there either until all this trade stuff is sorted it Trump gone, or both
i heard on the radio about a town that relies on a paper pulp mill for most of it's employment and how they would suffer because of the tariffs on newsprint paper. I'm sure other places will be affected too so I strongly believe that a boycott is the best way.
i heard on the radio about a town that relies on a paper pulp mill for most of it's employment and how they would suffer because of the tariffs on newsprint paper. I'm sure other places will be affected too so I strongly believe that a boycott is the best way.
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I am not really for a few reasons.
1) I buy food based on price, whatever is lowest price wins..
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2) I don't agree with Trump however it's still my home country and I have more attachment to the US and my family is still there and not in a state that supported Trump.
3) My job relies on US airlines, so if there is a boycott widespread it could lead to service reductions which could lead to me being unemployed.
I cannot really support a boycott when my income derives from US sources. And I like to see my family which requires me to go to the US, but I tend to only spend time in the 3 western states none of which supported Trump so no reason to try and hurt those states in my view, better to hurt the states that supported the idiot.
1) I buy food based on price, whatever is lowest price wins..
.
2) I don't agree with Trump however it's still my home country and I have more attachment to the US and my family is still there and not in a state that supported Trump.
3) My job relies on US airlines, so if there is a boycott widespread it could lead to service reductions which could lead to me being unemployed.
I cannot really support a boycott when my income derives from US sources. And I like to see my family which requires me to go to the US, but I tend to only spend time in the 3 western states none of which supported Trump so no reason to try and hurt those states in my view, better to hurt the states that supported the idiot.
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We'd already booked flights for a California trip, otherwise I would have not gone this year either.... at least we'll be in the more genteel State perhaps?
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My partner's family have a cabin across the border so we spend some weekends there. I think if the cabin wasn't there, then we wouldn't partly with everything going on and also the Canadian $ vs the US $ - everything is so much more expensive there right now (except alcohol and gas).
Good on you for making a stand though
Good on you for making a stand though
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Re: Us goods and travel boycott
Bats ........... we're doing much the same as you.
Inspecting grocery items carefully to see where they are made, buying only locally grown fruits and veggies ............. which are all in season right now and MUCH better than any shipped up from California.
OH does all our grocery shopping, and he bought some wonderful, beautifully tasting raspberries and blueberries on Friday, all grown in BC. The blueberries were on sale for $2.99 / 454 gm, a saving of $4. I'm now busy freezing them so we won't have to buy fresh ones over the winter.
and that was from Safeway.
All the fresh meat Safeway carries is Canadian, usually from BC or Alberta, but OH double checks before he actually buys it.
We decided 18 months ago that we would not be having a holiday in the US, or even transiting through there.
The toilet paper, paper towels and paper hankies we usually buy are all made by a Canadian company
We've long tried to buy local, just to support local industry and farmers, but are more determined to do so now.
Inspecting grocery items carefully to see where they are made, buying only locally grown fruits and veggies ............. which are all in season right now and MUCH better than any shipped up from California.
OH does all our grocery shopping, and he bought some wonderful, beautifully tasting raspberries and blueberries on Friday, all grown in BC. The blueberries were on sale for $2.99 / 454 gm, a saving of $4. I'm now busy freezing them so we won't have to buy fresh ones over the winter.
and that was from Safeway.
All the fresh meat Safeway carries is Canadian, usually from BC or Alberta, but OH double checks before he actually buys it.
We decided 18 months ago that we would not be having a holiday in the US, or even transiting through there.
The toilet paper, paper towels and paper hankies we usually buy are all made by a Canadian company
We've long tried to buy local, just to support local industry and farmers, but are more determined to do so now.
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No plans to go to America any time soon, but there's no way I'm going to be able to stop buying US products when so many things aren't made in Canada at all.
Roll on the home 3D metal printers (apparently there's a $10k model coming out soon).
Roll on the home 3D metal printers (apparently there's a $10k model coming out soon).
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Re: Us goods and travel boycott
We have long tended to buy local/Canadian stuff wherever possible. That will not change. Souvette now pays close attention to labels on produce. Very close attention.
The tariffs are bizarre.
Tariffs on steel are common. Most countries do that and have done for as long as I can remember. The US slapping a tariff on Canadian aluminium is plain daft. US manufacturers need aluminium. The US producers are small, old and inefficient. The Canadian producers are big, modern and efficient. A very, very major cost in aluminium production is power. There is a good reason why Canada, particularly QC, has such a large aluminium industry. There is one plant in QC that produces almost as much as the USA does.
Building new aluminium smelters is a long and hideously expensive process. No way is that going to happen in the USA. In the meantime, the USA will have to keep buying Canadian aluminium. The producers here are not going to cut their prices because they don't need to. The only people going to suffer will be the consumers, who will have to pay more.
Nice one Trump!
The tariffs are bizarre.
Tariffs on steel are common. Most countries do that and have done for as long as I can remember. The US slapping a tariff on Canadian aluminium is plain daft. US manufacturers need aluminium. The US producers are small, old and inefficient. The Canadian producers are big, modern and efficient. A very, very major cost in aluminium production is power. There is a good reason why Canada, particularly QC, has such a large aluminium industry. There is one plant in QC that produces almost as much as the USA does.
Building new aluminium smelters is a long and hideously expensive process. No way is that going to happen in the USA. In the meantime, the USA will have to keep buying Canadian aluminium. The producers here are not going to cut their prices because they don't need to. The only people going to suffer will be the consumers, who will have to pay more.
Nice one Trump!
#9
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In the past, I didn't buy South African or from Chile. I don't think the US is quite in the same category. Yet.
If the choice is American strawberries or no strawberries then I'll buy American strawberries. Not at any price though.
If the choice is American strawberries or no strawberries then I'll buy American strawberries. Not at any price though.
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Bats ........... we're doing much the same as you.
Inspecting grocery items carefully to see where they are made, buying only locally grown fruits and veggies ............. which are all in season right now and MUCH better than any shipped up from California.
OH does all our grocery shopping, and he bought some wonderful, beautifully tasting raspberries and blueberries on Friday, all grown in BC. The blueberries were on sale for $2.99 / 454 gm, a saving of $4. I'm now busy freezing them so we won't have to buy fresh ones over the winter.
and that was from Safeway.
All the fresh meat Safeway carries is Canadian, usually from BC or Alberta, but OH double checks before he actually buys it.
We decided 18 months ago that we would not be having a holiday in the US, or even transiting through there.
The toilet paper, paper towels and paper hankies we usually buy are all made by a Canadian company
We've long tried to buy local, just to support local industry and farmers, but are more determined to do so now.
Inspecting grocery items carefully to see where they are made, buying only locally grown fruits and veggies ............. which are all in season right now and MUCH better than any shipped up from California.
OH does all our grocery shopping, and he bought some wonderful, beautifully tasting raspberries and blueberries on Friday, all grown in BC. The blueberries were on sale for $2.99 / 454 gm, a saving of $4. I'm now busy freezing them so we won't have to buy fresh ones over the winter.
and that was from Safeway.
All the fresh meat Safeway carries is Canadian, usually from BC or Alberta, but OH double checks before he actually buys it.
We decided 18 months ago that we would not be having a holiday in the US, or even transiting through there.
The toilet paper, paper towels and paper hankies we usually buy are all made by a Canadian company
We've long tried to buy local, just to support local industry and farmers, but are more determined to do so now.
I was looking at local berries last week at Save On, they were double the price of Mexican and California imports so I skipped them and bought the imports, maybe I'll have to try Safeway, they are not convenient to us so we don't go there normally but might be worth a visit.
The problem I often find with local products is they tend to always cost a fair amount more, not always but imports tend to be cheaper, and a lot of the fruits I like cannot be grown in Canada so no choice but to get imports.
I'll pay a reasonable price for BC fruit but not double the price which I often see the BC grown fruits priced at.
Being a price sensitive shopper, the lowest price wins, can't be picky about where it's made when on a small budget.
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Even without the Trump idiocy surely ot makes sense to support the local economy? Buying local fruit and veggies means that you eat food in season too and don't contribute to the huge amount of food miles. I haven't seen fresh local cauliflower yet, just USA but the frozen packs are Mexican and cheaper than the fresh. I found Quebec made dish soap in Giant Tiger. we bought Canadian made flooring, on sale too. So far so good.
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As for aluminium, America produced 3-4x as much aluminium only a few years ago. I've no idea what condition those smelters are in, but I suspect they were only closed due to Obama's war on cheap power and could probably be brought back into operation.
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Not being flippant but Alex might be out of a job driving his truck if there's nothing to move.
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I'm guessing trucks will be one of the first driving markets to go autonomous, at least for the long drives between cities. Though they'll probably need humans on board for the first few years to take over if something goes wrong.
Trucking companies are probably salivating at the prospect of being able to run those expensive trucks twenty-four hours a day.
Back more on topic, I was thinking last night about what I actually do buy from America, and it's really not much aside from some fruits and veg that come from down there. Even the big piles of servers we buy from US companies are probably made in Asia.
Trucking companies are probably salivating at the prospect of being able to run those expensive trucks twenty-four hours a day.
Back more on topic, I was thinking last night about what I actually do buy from America, and it's really not much aside from some fruits and veg that come from down there. Even the big piles of servers we buy from US companies are probably made in Asia.
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We'll see how their challenge in the WTO goes, and abide by the decision.