UK Quarantine Lifted?
 

Good news for anyone visiting Blighty!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8464769/Families-book-summer-getaways-air-bridges-open-travel-operators-slash-prices-70.html

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Not exactly - it may be lifted between specific countries only - the so-called "Travel Corridors" to enable people to take vacations.

I wouldn't believe every thing you read on the Daily Fail :)
Better to stick with Official announcements.

The partial dismantling of Priti Patel's quarantine scheme means UK holidaymakers will be able to return home without having to self-isolate for 14 days. The Foreign Office will also lift its advice against 'all but essential travel' to low or medium-risk destinations, making it possible to obtain travel insurance.

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”The changes will also let foreign tourists visit the UK, giving a boost to the beleaguered hospitality sector.”

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I also read the item in the MailOnLine and I took that to mean "foreign tourists" from the European countries. Not foreign tourists in general.

They've basically set up a "bubble" to allow the Brits to go to the sun and beaches of the Mediterranean and go wild.

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Sorry to be the bearer of good news 😅

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Surely the Mail doesn't approve of that sort of thing; haven't they just run a campaign dedicated to cutting England off from the rest of the world?.

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To be fair it is not much use if Canada doesn't reciprocate and cancel quarantine for UK arrivals. Hopefully premier Trudeau might remember that a trade deal beckons while musing over that one!

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I think they wanted us to keep Wales attached and maybe occupy a 3 mile strip of the Costa Del Sol under English rule.

It's of use to Canadians(or those residing in Canada) as if they are home workers they can effectively come over here, but would be stuck in their house for 14 days upon going back. The problem with any sort of relaxation of rules for Canada is likely riskier than that for the UK. typically we are just a stopping point on a European trip, or maybe somewhere they come to visit family, likewise i think whilst we aren't at herd immunity levels, those very susceptible to COVID are no longer with us.

Compare that to a number of brits visiting Canada, who will conduct 1000+ mile plus road trips across plenty of communities, many of whom won't have had COVID enter their community, not to mention opening up the Canadian border won't open up provincial limitations, and you will get folk who completely misunderstand that whilst you can land in Calgary and Alberta may not have a 14 day quarantine, you can't go to Golden, Fernie, etc. without quarantining. Until Canada has no internal travel restrictions, opening up to tourism will either not happen or be super limited.

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would mean I can attend my brothers wedding in October. Can work from home in Canada but can’t attend wedding from parents house in uk.

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I don't know how feasible it would be but if there was someway people could get say a "fitness to travel certificate" then maybe they could travel without quarantine. I live in a rural area in the UK and know of no one who has had coronavirus or even know anyone who knows anyone who has. In the UK like most places seems that the virus is concentrated in urban areas so it's mad that we have the same restrictions as folks in inner cities. Same applies to Canada, look at the handfull of cases in the Prarie provinces yet they have the same restrictions as BC, Ontatio and Quebec.

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but presumably you would have to transition through a major airport like the rest of us unwashed masses. A certificate would in all tenses be useless the moment your left your small town.

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Look what is happening just a few weeks after Florida "opened up". If travel is allowed starting in a couple of weeks, I wouldn't be surprised if travel was prohibited again a few weeks later.

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To be fair .................

Trudeau may go against all current advice from his Health minister and officials and declare the borders open

BUT the Premiers of the provinces also have a lot of power, and can unilaterally close the borders between their provinces and even to the US. The Premiers also have control over quarantine within their province ......... even for Canadians coming from another province, and I for one, am extremely glad that they have these powers.

Seeing the situation in the US, as Pulaski stated, that border will remain closed for weeks more to come, and TBH it does not appear that Britain is doing much better.

I for one do not want you or any other person coming from abroad and possibly/probably bringing more virus into this country.

I have not isolated for over 3 months only to be caught out by some holiday maker who has not quarantined for 14 days, just when I'm thinking it might be safe to go out for dinner, or to get my hair cut, or my eyes or ears tested.

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This only applies for returning to the UK. The UK also has higher numbers, and that's the issue.

Apparently one can travel now from Canada to the UK without the quarantine obligation, however the quarantine obligation applies for travels from the UK to Canada. ( Which is understandable given the UK figures )

For those Canadians currently residing in Germany FRA Airport has started offering tests before departure., If they are accepted in Canada, I don't know.

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You're very lucky if you don't know anybody that's had it. I live in a tiny rural Berkshire village and we've got several cases. Two friends in their 40's have died of it.

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Really sorry to here that.
​​​​My point is that for many of us it's not the big issue the media and others would have you believe. The last I heard was that arround 10k extra deaths have occurred in the UK due to C19. 10k is a lot of people yes but a very tiny proportion of 60 odd million. Yes I live in a rural area but most of my family and friends live in built up areas from London to Birmingham. The ressession that has started, I predict will cause much more misery than C19 and what's happening with our children's education is plain disgraceful.

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It is a big issue precisely because people like you insist that it isn't a big issue. If everyone took SD, masks, and hygiene seriously then the infection rate would have collapsed, as it has done in countries where either lock-down was enforced brutally, or where people took the guidance and collectively adhered to it.

The irony is that those of us who do understand the risks, and are continuing to venture out only when truly necessary, and therefore avoiding anywhere that crowds might congregate, are being kept from venturing out by the idiots who think that the whole covid-19 thing is over-blown and we should all get back to normal to "save the economy". When everyone wears their masks, properly, and maintains SD, or more (6ft is tolerable, 8 or 10ft would be better) , then my family and I might venture out more, but the idiots prancing around without masks and not practing SD are the ones who are keeping a significant number of people at home, and that will likely drive a recession, or make it worse.

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I agree with everything else you have said, as its about employing social distancing for the greater good, I'm not avoiding the pub on Saturday as I'm scared about getting COVID 19, I'm avoiding it because I don't want to spread it to anyone in the pub, or bring it from the pub to colleagues who may be shielding someone etc. spread it round Tesco on my weekly shop to someone who lives with their 80 year old parents etc.

But I personally think the UK's infection rate has collapsed. Given we have widespread testing in place, so whilst cases will be under reported as not everyone has a desire to be tested, or may be asymptomatic it will be no more so than anywhere else in the world (less so IMO as we have same day tests available in every largish town, postal tests etc) - statistically today you'd have a 1 in 98526 of catching COVID in the UK, Granted Canada is lower still with a chance of 1 in 153,000 - population density etc isn't helping our totals, but both pale in insignificance compared to America (1 in 8729) Brazil (circa 1 in 6500) Russia, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Dominican Republic, Qatar etc - many of whom today have an infection rate 10x times higher than ours and are far more likely to be under reporting due to availability of testing.

I don't think the UK's infection rate is spiralling out of control like the media would have us believe and the figures seem to support my thoughts, which is possibly what is making lock down harder to understand/follow/get for some people.

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..... Maybe - it's down a lot (in the UK), agreed, but if many people decide that it is OK to abandon SD and their masks, then the numbers could accelerate back upwards very quickly, and that's the point I was making - although the numbers are down, it is still a "big deal", and only by continuing to act as if it is a big deal, will the numbers stay low.

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It will be interesting to see the figures In the UK and US in a week or two, due to crowded beaches/bars etc and the demonstrations...not to mention Trump’s rally.

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Well, yes, exactly.

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:goodpost:

+1

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:goodpost:

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That sums it up beautifully, and why I am not going out.