Re: Uk immigration
 

Not where I lived.

Re: Uk immigration
 

That assertion does seem to be twaddle:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Populat...ated_countries

though, by some measures, Jersey and the Isle of Man are a bit crowded:


http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0934666.html

Re: Uk immigration
 

you do have google don't you?

"With over 51 million inhabitants, England is by far the most populous country of the United Kingdom, accounting for 84% of the combined total.[163] England taken as a unit and measured against international states has the fourth largest population in the European Union and would be the 25th largest country by population in the world.[164] With a density of 395 people per square kilometre, it would be the second most densely populated country in the European Union after Malta"

Re: Uk immigration
 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density

53 rd most dense by this measure......if one factors out contries of less than 10 million the picture worsens (13 th).....|further if one looks at England in isolation from the rest of teh UK the picture is even worse still with a density of 395 persons per sq km vs about 255 for the UK as a whole.

If one wishes to include bermuda or Jersey...hell why not include Vatican City, maybe the UK looks good, but I stand by my original comment....the UK is one of the most dense places on the planet.

Which ever way you slice it,it's pretty grim. Maybe it's not as bad as China or India, but the way we're going it will before too long.

Re: Uk immigration
 

Manchester, yes.

Re: Uk immigration
 

The method of comparison is, of course, hopelessly flawed. Most of Canada is unhabitable tundra or rainforest so the great majority of the people live between Windsor and Quebec City. If we eliminate the rest of the country then we have a population density similar to the UK.

The suggestion that having neighbours makes a place "grim" and having more neighbours makes it "even worse" is also ill founded. The presence of people is what makes the UK a vibrant and exciting place and Canada (outside the part mentioned) a bit, well, empty.

Canada (outside the part mentioned) is better, of course, if you don't like people.

Re: Uk immigration
 

really? This is the best you can do? Talk about spinning.......bollocks if you ask me. Are you suggesting that when like for like comparisons are made, that Canadian cities are as cozy as UK ones?

Fact is, if one looks at pop density in England, its worse than Holland:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...in-Europe.html

Re: Uk immigration
 

Yet a lot of Brits want to move to Canada go figure eh or have already moved here.

Re: Uk immigration
 

I've given you a couple of links to show that your original assertion is wrong, your own link doesn't put the UK in the top ten crowded countries. No spin there.

Whether or not it's reasonable to consider the whole of countries such as Australia, Canada or Mongolia in such comparisons when most of the country is unhabitable depends on the purpose of the comparison. I suggest that, if the purpose is to look at the possilbity of a person living there then most of Canada is irrelevant.

Re: Uk immigration
 

attempting in your now familair way to defend the undefendable..yawn..If England is considered apart from the UK, it may well be in the top 10 (actually, top 10 greater than 10 million: England comes in at 7 above India). Not sure what your point is.

Now, how about your point that Canada is as equally cozy? Where are your links for that one? Canada's major urban areas are not as crowded as the UK, to suggest otherwise is not even worth debating.

As i said, bollocks

Re: Uk immigration
 

According to the statistics far fewer people from the UK settle in Canada than used to in the past.

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-402-.../tbl02-eng.htm

Re: Uk immigration
 

It's probably because of the internet and cheap air travel.

Re: Uk immigration
 

From your own post:

"53 rd most dense by this measure"

how many countries do you think there are in world? Suppose 200, then 53rd isn't in the top quartile. You may come from a crowded house but not everyone does.

Re: Uk immigration
 

And that's probably a good thing.

Re: Uk immigration
 

ah, so you discount everything else and select one thing that, at least on first appearances, supports your view. When one takes out inconsequential comparisons, oh like, Jersey, Vatican City and Bermuda, things aren't as rosy. Top 13 in fact.

England is in the UK, most of us on here are from there. It is in the top 10 somewhere between Holland and India, even when including smaller nations (over a million).

Typical dbd33 approach..... "it's crowded so more vibrant" "its crime rate is higher, so more exciting" you talk a load of bollocks