UK election June 8
#166
Re: UK election June 8
Pack up your desk and security will escort you and your box from the building.
#169
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There's every possibility to go back on it, after all it is such a sh1t idea.
Don't roll over or jump off the cliff like a prize lemming, it's far from over yet.
#170
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On the one hand we have May et al who have committed themselves politically to ensuring that Brexit happens and, election permittiing, will ensure that it happens. They will do this, not because it's a reasonable or logical thing to do, but because their personal standing is inextricably linked to it's completion.
On the other hand we have EU bureaucrats and politicians who feel personally aggrieved and dare not permit a soft brexit. They will act, like May et al, unreasonably and illogically because they're continually looking over their shoulders at others waiting to stab them in the back if they do otherwise and noone wants to be blamed for making it too easy to leave.
It's like a pub brawl, where next morning they will ask themselves, 'Why did we behave like that?'. They shake their heads and fight again the next night because that's what they do.
#171
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I don't see that happening. Too much momentum on Brexit, there's been minimal pushback from the Remain politicians over the past nine months (save for the Lib Dems, who unfortunately are seen as irrelevant). Every politician's statement has been prefaced by a "of course we're leaving" or "the will of the people" which is understandable by Brexiteers, but not be the supposed 78% that were Remain. So most people are resigned to it. At the end of the, the public are lemmings.
#172
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Every politician's statement has been prefaced by a "of course we're leaving" or "the will of the people"....the public are lemmings.
#173
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Still, it was only ever going to end badly for the lib dems; people think they collaborated and didn't vote for them or they got in the way and didn't vote for them.
#174
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Re: UK election June 8
Edit: If my wife, (UK) came to me (EU) and said look me and the kids aint happy, we feel you're being an arse and we're on the brink of leaving. I (Reasonable EU) would say, Christ, I had no idea I was making you feel like that, give us another chance and we can compromise, or I (unreasonable EU) could say, well best you piss off then, I'll help you pack, how dare you criticize me. The EU has been unreasonable since before the referendum, and are behaving like someone who can't take criticism.
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#175
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Edit: If my wife, (UK) came to me (EU) and said look me and the kids aint happy, we feel you're being an arse and we're on the brink of leaving. I (Reasonable EU) would say, Christ, I had no idea I was making you feel like that, give us another chance and we can compromise, or I (unreasonable EU) could say, well best you piss off then, I'll help you pack, how dare you criticize me. The EU has been unreasonable since before the referendum, and are behaving like someone who can't take criticism.
#176
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An interesting analogy. It might even be a fair one were only two parties involved and not talking to each other rather than the 28 who are constantly debating, discussing anything and everything as well as making collective decisions based on all that active participation.
#177
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An interesting analogy. It might even be a fair one were only two parties involved and not talking to each other rather than the 28 who are constantly debating, discussing anything and everything as well as making collective decisions based on all that active participation.
I think this is absolutely right. The UK had a target on its back for even calling a referendum in the first place. There's no going back now without massive repercussions., bothe from Europe and Brexit voters.
#178
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The key part is will be. As in not happened yet whereas your analogy originally was about something that already happened with wife/UK having told you/Europe they were thinking of leaving (as opposed to already having started divorce proceedings) and you/Europe not realising she/UK felt that way (because you'd not been communicating) and that now you know, you want another chance to make it right.
#179
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The key part is will be. As in not happened yet whereas your analogy originally was about something that already happened with wife/UK having told you/Europe they were thinking of leaving (as opposed to already having started divorce proceedings) and you/Europe not realising she/UK felt that way (because you'd not been communicating) and that now you know, you want another chance to make it right.
#180
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.. And now she's suing for all that alimony I'm supposed to have promised in that prenup.. well she can sing for that.. I'm spending it all on a round the world trip to find new friends.
Last edited by dave_j; Apr 26th 2017 at 2:43 am.