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Former Lancastrian Mar 6th 2016 1:29 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11888144)
You do realize a US president only executes the laws not makes them. Secondly, the federal government itself has very limited powers, those which it does have are explicit. The rest of the goings on are really the purview of the states and local municipalities.
I know that but obviously others don't and perhaps that is why they are afraid of Trump.
I wonder if its too late for Frank Underwood to put his name on the ballot.

Oink Mar 6th 2016 2:58 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11888152)
I know that but obviously others don't and perhaps that is why they are afraid of Trump.
I wonder if its too late for Frank Underwood to put his name on the ballot.
They'd be better off with Frank Sidebottom.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 7th 2016 5:01 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11888073)
I fear that he'll make a mess of the shared economy. I don't think he'd be good with money and I don't think he'd be good with foreign affairs, he'd be likely to provoke a foreign war and domestic (domestic including Canada) terrorism by accident. Interestingly, he's the only politician, worldwide, in history, to have worse hair than Harper. That said, the Canadian Candidate is a bone fide lunatic so, if it's Repug, Little Marco is the least worst.
This is a good take on what it could well be like of Trump did become president. Canada would be in trouble after Trump messes up the "shared economy"

Many people like his straight talking, although a good thing in someways, i feel, this would also be his downfall....or the US's downfall, as due to his complete lack of diplomacy, then yes he could provoke a foreign war by accident. I agree.

I do see where some people draw the Rob Ford simularity, there would never be a shortage of comedy, but this would come at a dangerous price.

To be honest I dont know enough about Ted Cruz to comment on his level of lunacy.

dbd33 Mar 7th 2016 5:26 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Paul_Shepherd (Post 11888866)
To be honest I dont know enough about Ted Cruz to comment on his level of lunacy.
He's a religious fundamentalist and not a Muslim one; that makes him a poor choice to deal with ISIS.

Novocastrian Mar 7th 2016 5:35 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11888073)
I fear that he'll make a mess of the shared economy. I don't think he'd be good with money and I don't think he'd be good with foreign affairs, he'd be likely to provoke a foreign war and domestic (domestic including Canada) terrorism by accident. Interestingly, he's the only politician, worldwide, in history, to have worse hair than Harper. That said, the Canadian Candidate is a bone fide lunatic so, if it's Repug, Little Marco is the least worst.
I dispute that. Maggie?

dbd33 Mar 7th 2016 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11888915)
I dispute that. Maggie?
A laminated abomination but not untypical of her era (consider Ena Sharples), my grandmother's barnet was similarly permed and lacquered, Harper and Trump are not follically typical of their generation.

magnumpi Mar 7th 2016 5:50 am
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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11888926)
A laminated abomination but not untypical of her era (consider Ena Sharples), my grandmother's barnet was similarly permed and lacquered, Harper and Trump are not follically typical of their generation.
Dosnt Boris have some odd looking hair?

dbd33 Mar 7th 2016 6:17 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 11888930)
Dosnt Boris have some odd looking hair?
He does. I suppose it's a right wing thing.

macadian Mar 7th 2016 6:50 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11888961)
He does. I suppose it's a right wing thing.
My hair is amazing, I'm going to make it great again, and the liberal s will pay for it, their such low energy.....😂

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 7th 2016 10:34 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
If Trump wins somehow, hopefully the congress will be controlled by democrats and well a good congress will keep the president in check.

Not even sure Trump himself fully understands how restricted the president is in doing things and how much he does need congress to really get anything meaningful done.

If it is Trump hopefully the democrats have enough seats in congress to override vetoes.

I don't fear Trump as I know its basically not possible to do most of what he spews, and I just don't see him winning a general. And polls in primary season are so biased and one sided they only reflect how potential republican voters feel.

As an example he can say all he wants about changing the constitution, its not going to happen for any of the BS he spews, no way he will get support of the 37 or 38 states needed, and not even sure he realizes how hard it is to change that document.

JonboyE Mar 7th 2016 11:22 am
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I have heard that one of the reasons Trump does so well in the primaries is that Democrats are registering as Republicans just so they can vote for him.

scrubbedexpat091 Mar 7th 2016 11:34 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11889242)
I have heard that one of the reasons Trump does so well in the primaries is that Democrats are registering as Republicans just so they can vote for him.
That would be interesting. In an open primary state one doesn't need to re-register to a party, but I am not sure how many open primary states exist and how many have voted thus far.


I vote in a big but useless state as it will go democrat and it will go Clinton, Sanders likely won't even be in the race by June unless something big happens.


I just registered well re-registered since I moved. Have to re-register anytime something changes on your voter record. I am a bit excited they can now send the ballot by email which should reduce delays, in last election, I barely got it, and had to send back Fedex overnight.

caretaker Mar 7th 2016 11:44 am
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I assume you'll vote correctly, comrade.
(You can disregard that, just noticed your avatar.)

Former Lancastrian Mar 7th 2016 12:25 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 11889195)
If Trump wins somehow, hopefully the congress will be controlled by democrats and well a good congress will keep the president in check.

Not even sure Trump himself fully understands how restricted the president is in doing things and how much he does need congress to really get anything meaningful done.

If it is Trump hopefully the democrats have enough seats in congress to override vetoes.

I don't fear Trump as I know its basically not possible to do most of what he spews, and I just don't see him winning a general. And polls in primary season are so biased and one sided they only reflect how potential republican voters feel.

As an example he can say all he wants about changing the constitution, its not going to happen for any of the BS he spews, no way he will get support of the 37 or 38 states needed, and not even sure he realizes how hard it is to change that document.
So thats 2 of us who don't fear Trump as President and your a Yank to boot :lol:

Alan2005 Mar 7th 2016 12:59 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by JonboyE (Post 11889242)
I have heard that one of the reasons Trump does so well in the primaries is that Democrats are registering as Republicans just so they can vote for him.
I'd do that if I was a septic. Btw, would you like to see my monkeys paw?

BristolUK Mar 7th 2016 1:27 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11889289)
So thats 2 of us who don't fear Trump as President and your a Yank to boot :lol:
I'm not entirely clear why you think it's fear. It's more a case of being ridiculous isn't it?

It would be a bit like Boris becoming PM. :rofl:

Former Lancastrian Mar 7th 2016 1:52 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11889307)
I'm not entirely clear why you think it's fear. It's more a case of being ridiculous isn't it?

It would be a bit like Boris becoming PM. :rofl:
Or Jeremy Corbyn;) The voters will decide not us Canadians so we don't really get a say. We could do the Canadian thing and write a strongly worded letter to the Merican people telling them why they should not vote for him and we promise to spend more money in their country and offer them free poutine on their next visit washed down with a Timmies double double.

MillieF Mar 7th 2016 2:11 pm
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I fully applaud you on the "us Canadian" front....but once having reached the acme and gaining Citizenship, this surely doesn't mean that 'life goes on' and your other faculties are short circuited when it comes to international perspectives?

Unfortunately, the idea of democracy doesn't reach far, so even the thought of anyone having their say seems pointless in some parts of the world, here in Canada surely apathetic thoughts need to be discouraged actively?

BristolUK Mar 8th 2016 1:05 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11889307)
It's more a case of being ridiculous isn't it? It would be a bit like Boris becoming PM. :rofl:
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11889313)
Or Jeremy Corbyn;)
Well not really. Trump going from 'Reality' TV game show host to President of the USA is a bit different to decades as an MP to opposition leader to PM.

There's a certain logic to one, a series of steps as it were, compared to something ridiculous. Imagine Hughie Green or Davina McCall becoming PM after their stints hosting Opportunity Knocks and Big Brother. At least Hughie was sincere. :rofl:

Novocastrian Mar 8th 2016 2:55 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
It seems that the Republican Party don't like Trump after all...

Trump Hits a Wall Within the GOP; His Critics Back a Convention Fight (POLL) - ABC News

dbd33 Mar 8th 2016 3:27 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11889734)
It seems that the Republican Party don't like Trump after all...

Trump Hits a Wall Within the GOP; His Critics Back a Convention Fight (POLL) - ABC News
Meanwhile, I saw a piece, in the Atlantic I think, suggesting that Marco Rubio has an elaborate comb over and is, in fact, as much of a follicle fraud as Trump.

Paul_Shepherd Mar 8th 2016 4:25 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 11889313)
Or Jeremy Corbyn;) The voters will decide not us Canadians so we don't really get a say. We could do the Canadian thing and write a strongly worded letter to the Merican people telling them why they should not vote for him and we promise to spend more money in their country and offer them free poutine on their next visit washed down with a Timmies double double.
I think Trump has actually more chance of becoming US President than Jeremy Corbyn British PM! that guy really is from another planet!

That situation that currently exists in the labour party must be part of some bigger plan that us mortals dont know of yet, its so ludicorus!..

Novocastrian Mar 8th 2016 5:42 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11889751)
Meanwhile, I saw a piece, in the Atlantic I think, suggesting that Marco Rubio has an elaborate comb over and is, in fact, as much of a follicle fraud as Trump.
Oh of course, all the remaining GOP wannabes are utterly repugnant, it's just that Trump is such a disgusting fraud and a fool that there would be a complete circus if he were the nominee.

dbd33 Mar 8th 2016 6:39 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11889877)
Oh of course, all the remaining GOP wannabes are utterly repugnant, it's just that Trump is such a disgusting fraud and a fool that there would be a complete circus if he were the nominee.
I once thought Ronald Reagan to be a dangerous joke candidate. Now, by Republican standards, he seems a thoughtful moderate.

Alan2005 Mar 8th 2016 8:34 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 11889877)
Oh of course, all the remaining GOP wannabes are utterly repugnant, it's just that Trump is such a disgusting fraud and a fool that there would be a complete circus if he were the nominee.
It's that already. Trump or not, the repubs are done. I expect that Hilary will saunter in come November with a similar result to Obama in 2012.

Oink Mar 8th 2016 9:11 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11889999)
It's that already. Trump or not, the repubs are done. I expect that Hilary will saunter in come November with a similar result to Obama in 2012.
While I can certainly understand your position, I wouldn't be so sure, there's been a Democrat in office for the last eight years, it'd be surprising they'd tolerate another four years of them controlling the WH. Bush 'won' the 2000 and 2004 Presidency while losing California, NY and Pennsylvania. It could well come down to Florida again.

Alan2005 Mar 8th 2016 9:55 am
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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11890024)
While I can certainly understand your position, I wouldn't be so sure, there's been a Democrat in office for the last eight years, it'd be surprising they'd tolerate another four years of them controlling the WH. Bush 'won' the 2000 and 2004 Presidency while losing California, NY and Pennsylvania. It could well come down to Florida again.
I don't know enough how about how it all works technically to make a more nuanced prediction based on whose votes come from where. Maybe it's a mistake, but I'm sort of assuming that this will play out like it would if similar events were happening in the UK. Specifically undignified party infighting of the sort they are currently engaging in has to be a bit off-putting to ordinary voters - even American ones.

BristolUK Mar 8th 2016 10:01 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11890024)
Bush 'won' the 2000 and 2004 Presidency while losing California, NY and Pennsylvania. It could well come down to Florida again.
Was that the Florida scandal where incorrect counting of the votes made the difference in winning and losing?

Presumably that's why you had it as 'won' rather than won. ;)

dbd33 Mar 8th 2016 12:50 pm
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 11890077)
Was that the Florida scandal where incorrect counting of the votes made the difference in winning and losing?

Presumably that's why you had it as 'won' rather than won. ;)
Chads no longer dangle though, the world has moved on.

Former Lancastrian Mar 8th 2016 1:09 pm
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Is Mississippi burning? Well its burning up with votes for Trump & Clinton.
Projected results have them winning in Mississippi. What does Michigan have in store?

MarkG Mar 9th 2016 5:45 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11889999)
It's that already. Trump or not, the repubs are done. I expect that Hilary will saunter in come November with a similar result to Obama in 2012.
As I understand it, Trump has the highest support among Democrats since Reagan, and many Sanders supporters would vote for Trump if Clinton is the Democrat nominee. This is why the Republican establishment are scared of him: not because they think he'd lose, but because they think he'd win.

They'd much rather have Clinton in the White House, because she'll guarantee support and donations to the Republicans for eight years to come.

I still think he should pick Sanders for his VP, then Clinton would be toast. Plus it would result in a complete meltdown of the Republican establishment.

Alan2005 Mar 9th 2016 8:23 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 11890856)
As I understand it, Trump has the highest support among Democrats since Reagan, and many Sanders supporters would vote for Trump if Clinton is the Democrat nominee. This is why the Republican establishment are scared of him: not because they think he'd lose, but because they think he'd win.

They'd much rather have Clinton in the White House, because she'll guarantee support and donations to the Republicans for eight years to come.

I still think he should pick Sanders for his VP, then Clinton would be toast. Plus it would result in a complete meltdown of the Republican establishment.
Care to make an avatar bet?

Hilary is the next president then I get to choose your avatar, if she loses, you can choose mine.

Loser must use said avatar for 3 months.

BristolUK Mar 10th 2016 12:15 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11890992)
Care to make an avatar bet?

Hilary is the next president then I get to choose your avatar, if she loses, you can choose mine.

Loser must use said avatar for 3 months.
Like that bet Homer Simpson and Ned Flanders had where the loser had to dress as a woman.
http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/...20130715042639

MarkG Mar 10th 2016 1:16 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11890992)
Care to make an avatar bet?
Why would I bet against Clinton being President when I've already said the Republicans are determined to lose at any cost?

Alan2005 Mar 11th 2016 7:54 am
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Originally Posted by MarkG (Post 11891525)
Why would I bet against Clinton being President when I've already said the Republicans are determined to lose at any cost?
Well, your post was positing scenarios where Hilary doesn't win. I misread that as your view on what would happen rather than you just playing devils advocate. Because of this I was just suggesting a friendly inconsequential wager. But yes, if you think she's going to win it would be a bit pointless.

Anyone else wants to take the bet?

Oink Mar 11th 2016 9:31 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11893054)
Well, your post was positing scenarios where Hilary doesn't win. I misread that as your view on what would happen rather than you just playing devils advocate. Because of this I was just suggesting a friendly inconsequential wager. But yes, if you think she's going to win it would be a bit pointless.

Anyone else wants to take the bet?
Maybe after the conventions. :sneaky:

caretaker Mar 11th 2016 9:48 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Most of my recent predictions have been wrong, i have no confidence left.

Alan2005 Mar 11th 2016 10:31 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Oink (Post 11893136)
Maybe after the conventions. :sneaky:
I shall now prepare a penis image to add to your avatar. Just in case;)

dbd33 Mar 11th 2016 10:40 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 11893054)
Well, your post was positing scenarios where Hilary doesn't win. I misread that as your view on what would happen rather than you just playing devils advocate. Because of this I was just suggesting a friendly inconsequential wager. But yes, if you think she's going to win it would be a bit pointless.

Anyone else wants to take the bet?
You take Hilary to be the next POTUS and I take not-Hilary, that is, any other outcome?

If that's the bet then, yes, I'll take it.

Alan2005 Mar 11th 2016 10:42 am
Re: Trump doesn't like us!
 
Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 11893174)
You take Hilary to be the next POTUS and I take not-Hilary, that is, any other outcome?

If that's the bet then, yes, I'll take it.
Done.


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