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Shard Sep 18th 2019 7:44 pm

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 12737115)

Spot on.

Pica Sep 18th 2019 11:31 pm

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12737168)
Spot on.

Yup!

Pica Sep 18th 2019 11:33 pm

Re: Trudeau
 
I once wore a sombrero and a droopy moustache-am i ashamed or embarrassed? NO. It was a party, it was fun.

dbd33 Sep 19th 2019 12:34 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Boiler (Post 12737127)
The National Council of Canadian Muslims responded angrily to the report.

Executive director Mustafa Farooq said: "Seeing the prime minister in brownface/blackface is deeply saddening. The wearing of blackface/brownface is reprehensible, and hearkens back to a history of racism and an Orientalist mythology which is unacceptable.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49749851

The brown faced masses in this room, some of them mat wielding, overtly praying, Muslims, giggled at this but then "Mind Your Language" is remembered fondly in this crowd. People who have a lot of real causes to be offended seem able to draw a line.

Trudeau's a twat but it's not worse to dress up as an Arab than in a wedding dress in India.

Oakvillian Sep 19th 2019 2:01 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12737251)
The brown faced masses in this room, some of them mat wielding, overtly praying, Muslims, giggled at this but then "Mind Your Language" is remembered fondly in this crowd. People who have a lot of real causes to be offended seem able to draw a line.

Trudeau's a twat but it's not worse to dress up as an Arab than in a wedding dress in India.

Quite. Dressing up as an Aladdin character for a themed end-of-year revue (FFS, though, why would a presumably overwhelmingly white school administration decide to to "Arabian Nights" as a revue theme) is stupid, insensitive and inexcusable. It speaks to pretty poor judgement: sure, if this was the 2001 yearbook one imagines the party had been in May or June of that year, before the 9/11 attacks and all the anti-brown-people sentiment that erupted thereafter. But, as he has said to journalists in the 18 hours or so since this story broke, he should have known better, and shouldn't have worn brown-face makeup. It's not the costume that offends (although there's still a great deal of debate about "cultural appropriation," no sensible person would be offended by this costume worn in the context of a themed event), it's the makeup that is clearly wrong.

Compare this with some of the allegations against others, though (I'm thinking particularly about Brett Kavanaugh) and it pales into insignificance - if you'll excuse the insensitivity of that pun. Trudeau has not sexually assaulted anyone here, hasn't got his pecker out in public (thank the gods) and seems to have owned his error of judgement and apologized for it.

I have a feeling it won't move the needle much in the election campaign.

JamesM Sep 19th 2019 2:07 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Pica (Post 12737241)
I once wore a sombrero and a droopy moustache-am i ashamed or embarrassed? NO. It was a party, it was fun.

You should be ashamed.

With the right preparation you could have grown the mustache and sported it for months.

JamesM Sep 19th 2019 2:08 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12737162)
What offends me the most is all the time he spends in white face.

I'm waiting for the pig f**king ritual allegations to come out!

Shard Sep 19th 2019 2:11 am

Re: Trudeau
 
"Wrong" by today's standards, but not necessarily by the standards of 2001. I remember people doing that kind of thing, and most people just viewed it as a bit of fun or a bit weird, but not overtly racist. Not even sure if Justin needed to apologise so seriously, he could have just laughed it off as Donald or Boris would.

scrubbedexpat099 Sep 19th 2019 2:12 am

Re: Trudeau
 
and black...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/british...cb47e5c37d.jpg

Pica Sep 19th 2019 2:13 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by JamesM (Post 12737309)
You should be ashamed.

With the right preparation you could have grown the mustache and sported it for months.

LOL. Not into steroids I'm delighted to say.

Siouxie Sep 19th 2019 2:36 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Pica (Post 12737241)
I once wore a sombrero and a droopy moustache-am i ashamed or embarrassed? NO. It was a party, it was fun.



Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12737312)
"Wrong" by today's standards, but not necessarily by the standards of 2001. I remember people doing that kind of thing, and most people just viewed it as a bit of fun or a bit weird, but not overtly racist. Not even sure if Justin needed to apologise so seriously, he could have just laughed it off as Donald or Boris would.


:goodpost:

Exactly. I once put on heavy makeup and wore an off the shoulder dress and a rose in my hair - for a fancy dress party --- but apparently that's no longer allowed as it's 'cultural appropriation'... there was nothing bloomin racist about it, it was a bit of fun - no different than dressing up as a vampire... I've also draped myself in scarves to resemble arabian nights for parties - oh can we no longer dress in a bellydancing costume for fear of upsetting some eejit??? !!!

What a load of old bollocks... has everyone lost their haha??
:lol:

dbd33 Sep 19th 2019 3:27 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12737312)
"Wrong" by today's standards, but not necessarily by the standards of 2001.

Well isn't that a slippery slope.

caretaker Sep 19th 2019 3:40 am

Re: Trudeau
 
Have any of the Arab states or Jamaica threatened to close their embassies here because of this blatant cultural appropriation?

jimf Sep 19th 2019 4:06 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 12737312)
"Wrong" by today's standards, but not necessarily by the standards of 2001. I remember people doing that kind of thing, and most people just viewed it as a bit of fun or a bit weird, but not overtly racist. Not even sure if Justin needed to apologise so seriously, he could have just laughed it off as Donald or Boris would.

It’s a pretty gormless attention seeking thing to have done any time. At least the photo means he couldnt try the initial “I don’t recall any negative interactions that day” line.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...-case-reporter
He was 28 or 29 at the time of these incidents.

BristolUK Sep 19th 2019 4:25 am

Re: Trudeau
 

Originally Posted by jimf (Post 12737368)
It’s a pretty gormless attention seeking thing to have done any time.

Attention seeking to dress up in costume at a costume party? Surely that would be going in plain clothes :lol:



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