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Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 5:29 am

Are trucks really this cheap?
 
I'll post the link to the Kijiji ad below, but there's a 1998 Dodge Ram crew cab pick up for only $1200

Looks nice in it's shiney red paint:

http://www.carartz.com/other/misc/ram1.jpeg

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ345442533

I've found a lot of trucks around the $1500 range which look amazing value.

So what's the deal, are they like the equivalent of a Vectra over here? Folk buy them new, keep them for three years and then they go on the bargain market?

Are they too expensive to maintain if you don't have the knowledge/tools to do it yourself?

Now I know there are plenty of puppy loving hippies out there that will want to damn me to hell for wanting one of these "crimes against humanity", so don't waste your time trying to convert me, I'm already going to hell :p

(ps, I love puppies)

magnumpi Jan 13th 2012 5:40 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
Did you email it?

Lots of scams on Kijiji regarding vcles. This one has 22000 km either a typo or a scam.

Oink Jan 13th 2012 5:41 am

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Its a 1998, its probably completely shagged out. Second hand cars and trucks are usually really expensive in Canada.

iaink Jan 13th 2012 5:42 am

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Its a 98, its basically waiting to die in Cdn terms, a transmission is probably due along with a bunch of other components.


Beyond a certain age any non collectors car/ truck that can be safetied and etested so you can drive it on the road legally, is worth $1500 regardless of what it is. If its not safetied and etested then its a gamble to buy, could cost a mint to get back registered.


Kijiji is full of car scams, but usually they are newer more upmarket vehicles for bargain prices.

Former Lancastrian Jan 13th 2012 5:43 am

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I think being on Kijiji says it all BEWARE.

iaink Jan 13th 2012 5:45 am

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Originally Posted by Former Lancastrian (Post 9840654)
I think being on Kijiji says it all BEWARE.

Nowt intrinsically wrong with kijiji, just apply common sense. Ive sold two of my old cars that way.

Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 5:45 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
It was just an example. Here's another one: $1300

http://www.carartz.com/other/misc/ram2.jpeg

Surely they're not ALL scams? lol

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ344903808

iaink Jan 13th 2012 5:46 am

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Originally Posted by Dave n Ailsa (Post 9840659)
It was just an example. Here's another one: $1300

http://www.carartz.com/other/misc/ram2.jpeg

Surely they're not ALL scams? lol

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ344903808

372000 km;)
No heater (need to take the cab off to do that I suspect)

Oink Jan 13th 2012 5:48 am

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Originally Posted by Dave n Ailsa (Post 9840620)
I'll post the link to the Kijiji ad below, but there's a 1998 Dodge Ram crew cab pick up for only $1200

Looks nice in it's shiney red paint:

http://www.carartz.com/other/misc/ram1.jpeg

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ345442533

I've found a lot of trucks around the $1500 range which look amazing value.

So what's the deal, are they like the equivalent of a Vectra over here? Folk buy them new, keep them for three years and then they go on the bargain market?

Are they too expensive to maintain if you don't have the knowledge/tools to do it yourself?

Now I know there are plenty of puppy loving hippies out there that will want to damn me to hell for wanting one of these "crimes against humanity", so don't waste your time trying to convert me, I'm already going to hell :p

(ps, I love puppies)

Has anyone else noticed how ugly the houses are here. They're all garage with a few rooms stuck on top and at the back. I realize they want them to blend in with the scenery but ffs couldn't they make a little less horrible to look at?

dbd33 Jan 13th 2012 5:48 am

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Originally Posted by iaink (Post 9840662)
372000 km;)

It's a Chrysler product and it's out of warranty and uncertified. $1,000 would be a lot.

Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 5:48 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
I know what you're all saying. I use Gumtree over here so I know what to look for and what to avoid.

I'm not averse to the odd engine swap or panel needing welded, as long as the car does exist to begin with lol.

dbd33 Jan 13th 2012 5:49 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9840667)
Has anyone else noticed how ugly the houses are here. They're all garage with a few rooms stuck on top and at the back. I realize they want them to blend in with the scenery but ffs couldn't they make a little less horrible to look at?

That's what Ontario looks like.

el_richo Jan 13th 2012 5:51 am

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Originally Posted by Dave n Ailsa (Post 9840671)
I know what you're all saying. I use Gumtree over here so I know what to look for and what to avoid.

I'm not averse to the odd engine swap or panel needing welded, as long as the car does exist to begin with lol.

So you might as well up your budget and buy one that will work ;)

Former Lancastrian Jan 13th 2012 5:51 am

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OP should read this link
http://help.kijiji.net/ca/knowledgebase.php?category=7

I agree not all are scams even Craigslist and E Bay have scammers.
Due dilligence is all that is needed.

JonboyE Jan 13th 2012 6:00 am

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In BC there are a good number of people who will buy a vehicle new then keep it until the cost of repairing it exceeds the cost of payments on a new one. Then they sell them off as beaters. A 1998 truck for $1,200 sounds like it is in that category. There is probably a 4 or 5 missing off the front if the quoted kms is 22,000.

I suspect Iaink is right that there is something very expensive that needs doing soon. However, if you are a competent mechanic, or good mates with one, and can spot what needs doing right now and what could be put off for a while, this can be a cheap option to get you mobile.

ireland2canada Jan 13th 2012 6:05 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9840674)
That's what Ontario looks like.

Ahem. That's what the ugly, commuter belt parts of Ontario look like. You know, where people move to have a great big house on a teeny little plot, backing onto the motorway, for the kids.

As for the trucks, a new Dodge Ram will set you back about $20,000 for the most basic, featureless model available. I'd keep that in mind when looking at one costing $1500.

Furthermore, Dodge trucks are monumentally ugly. Put one beside a new F-150 and it looks very much like the poor relation. I can't be bothered to look up their towing capability, I'm struggling to recall if I've ever seen one towing anything worthy of note.

Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 6:09 am

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Ok guys, that's fine, you've answered my question (yes, but they will be crap) lol

And I agree the ram's are ugly. I want a Chevy ;)

dbd33 Jan 13th 2012 6:11 am

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Originally Posted by ireland2canada (Post 9840713)
Ahem. That's what the ugly, commuter belt parts of Ontario look like. You know, where people move to have a great big house on a teeny little plot, backing onto the motorway, for the kids.

Well, maybe not absolutely all of Ontario, but when I write that, for example, Mississauga or Oakville north of the QEW is a hellish wasteland that would make one see the good side of life at Broadwater Farm, that's the sort of thing I have in mind.

Oink Jan 13th 2012 6:15 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9840723)
Well, maybe not absolutely all of Ontario, but when I write that, for example, Mississauga or Oakville north of the QEW is a hellish wasteland that would make one see the good side of life at Broadwater Farm, that's the sort of thing I have in mind.

They say immigrants can endure many hardships but that's just so depressing. At least you have lots of nice neighbourhood pubs you wander down to get a bit of company and a nice pint.

dbd33 Jan 13th 2012 6:16 am

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9840729)
They say immigrants can endure many hardships but that's just so depressing. At least you have lots of nice neighbourhood pubs you wander down to get a bit of company and a nice pint.

In Tottenham? Yes.

snowcandy Jan 13th 2012 6:17 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
Cheap to buy...bloody expensive to run.

Everyone we know was buying F150's last year as they were so cheap here. Funny they now all seem to selling them and buying something more sensible.

We don't have one by the way.;)

magnumpi Jan 13th 2012 6:20 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
I just asked the red ram man if milage was a mistake.

Obviously it is, its 220000 km stil not bad. Looks like a genuine add, so yes, old trucks is cheap.

ireland2canada Jan 13th 2012 6:22 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 

Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9840723)
Well, maybe not absolutely all of Ontario, but when I write that, for example, Mississauga or Oakville north of the QEW is a hellish wasteland that would make one see the good side of life at Broadwater Farm, that's the sort of thing I have in mind.

Well yes, but who wants to move continents to end up there? Oh, hang on, BE'ers!


Originally Posted by snowcandy (Post 9840732)
Cheap to buy...bloody expensive to run.

Everyone we know was buying F150's last year as they were so cheap here. Funny they now all seem to selling them and buying something more sensible.

We don't have one by the way.;)

Cheap compared to what though? If you need a truck (and I accept that many people are just poseurs) then it's getting pretty hard to find a new mid-sized pick up, they are all being phased out.

lmartin999 Jan 13th 2012 8:41 am

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
I really like cars and have owned a large number. Why though, unless you have lots of stuff to move frequently, would you possibly want a truck like that?

R I C H Jan 13th 2012 9:25 am

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9840910)
I really like cars and have owned a large number. Why though, unless you have lots of stuff to move frequently, would you possibly want a truck like that?

Ever towed a reasonably large boat, camping trailer, horse trailer etc with a car?

lmartin999 Jan 13th 2012 9:44 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 9840983)
Ever towed a reasonably large boat, camping trailer, horse trailer etc with a car?

Apologies, my list was not exhaustive. Is the OP planning on owning any of the above I wonder?

Almost Canadian Jan 13th 2012 10:12 am

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Originally Posted by R I C H (Post 9840983)
Ever towed a reasonably large boat, camping trailer, horse trailer etc with a car?

RICH.

I have a half ton Yukon. Assuming typical horses (Warmbloods, Quarterhorse) have big a horse trailer could I reasonably pull, 1 horse, 2 horses, 3 horses? Assume a modern aluminium trailer (I know they are not available in North America:p)

Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 12:59 pm

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Originally Posted by lmartin999 (Post 9840910)
I really like cars and have owned a large number. Why though, unless you have lots of stuff to move frequently, would you possibly want a truck like that?

That's a fair question...

I plan to buy old broken cars/sports cars and restore them, so truck will tow trailers, and have space for spare engines/trannies, parts etc.

It also makes it easier for me to shop on Kijiji for furniture and all the usual crap you chuck in your rec rooms and never use, like exercise equipment :D

And of course I just bloomin like them ;)

Piff Poff Jan 13th 2012 1:24 pm

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Originally Posted by Dave n Ailsa (Post 9840659)
It was just an example. Here's another one: $1300

http://www.carartz.com/other/misc/ram2.jpeg

Surely they're not ALL scams? lol

http://hamilton.kijiji.ca/c-cars-veh...AdIdZ344903808

Is that not rusty all along the bottom doors? We buy and sell lots on Kijiji, we also have lots of wild goose chases, due to misinformation by the sellers.

caretaker Jan 13th 2012 2:37 pm

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People buy Ontario vehicles cheap, bring them to Saskatchewan then try to get them safetied and sell them or sell them needing the safety cert.. Ontario has more sleet and freezing rain than anywhere else in Canada and so uses way more road salt. The result is the vehicles rust out faster so at 10 years the rocker panels are rusting out and depending which province you're in holes in the body are enough for the law to condemn your car if you get snared in a safety check. My sister in Ont. who worked for Chrysler thought it was silly of me to buy a 2000 van with 317 thou k. She said cars just don't last that long, but nearly 3 years later next oil change is due @ 380 thou but the little brown dots I saw on the rocker panels then are holes now. Even though I could drive it across the country metal fatigue will eventually kill it. Buying used means looking at the glass, tires, body, power train and a few use indicators. Look at how much rubber is gone off the brake pedal; that can say how much is highway and how much is city mileage. See if the paint on the firewall and inside the doors matches the body and see how the doors and trunk fit. It might of been hit before the seller bought it and he may not even know. A 2000 half ton goes for around $5000 so if something looks too good to be true look it over extra carefully. New truck prices have gone down but the ads are misleading. The $21,000 truck might cost 6 grand more by the time you buy a few extras and pay tax and delivery. My friend bought a bare bones 1/4 ton Ranger for $15k 2 years ago and it cost 20 even without extras. I still can't understand it..... 2wd and no power anything. He could of got one for the same price loaded to the nuts with 4wd if he'd bought a 3 year old one with 50,000 k on it.

printer Jan 13th 2012 4:58 pm

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
My take on these is that they are both RWD not 4WD which would make them worth a lot more. Rear wheel drive trucks suck in bad weather most of the time.

I currently own an old GMC which has over 450,000 kms on it and it still starts on the button and is perfect for those runs to the tip or hauling loads but i wouldn't want to drive it on long distance cruises, it's not the most comfortable vehicle and the steering is vague as are the brakes.

Boy d Jan 13th 2012 5:43 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 9840667)
Has anyone else noticed how ugly the houses are here. They're all garage with a few rooms stuck on top and at the back. I realize they want them to blend in with the scenery but ffs couldn't they make a little less horrible to look at?

a bit of a sweeping generalization...its not as if the UK is all thatched cottages and georgian townhouses

there is the modern take on the classic coronation street terrace, the 'semi' (which is equally common in the north west) and the modern detached has, lets wait it for it......a few rooms stuck on top of the garage:

The UK has left us with as many eyesores in recent years.

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Boy d Jan 13th 2012 5:44 pm

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the garage is at the back you will be pleased to know.

Dave n Ailsa Jan 13th 2012 8:08 pm

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 9841336)
People buy Ontario vehicles cheap, bring them to Saskatchewan then try to get them safetied and sell them or sell them needing the safety cert.. Ontario has more sleet and freezing rain than anywhere else in Canada and so uses way more road salt. The result is the vehicles rust out faster so at 10 years the rocker panels are rusting out and depending which province you're in holes in the body are enough for the law to condemn your car if you get snared in a safety check. My sister in Ont. who worked for Chrysler thought it was silly of me to buy a 2000 van with 317 thou k. She said cars just don't last that long, but nearly 3 years later next oil change is due @ 380 thou but the little brown dots I saw on the rocker panels then are holes now. Even though I could drive it across the country metal fatigue will eventually kill it. Buying used means looking at the glass, tires, body, power train and a few use indicators. Look at how much rubber is gone off the brake pedal; that can say how much is highway and how much is city mileage. See if the paint on the firewall and inside the doors matches the body and see how the doors and trunk fit. It might of been hit before the seller bought it and he may not even know. A 2000 half ton goes for around $5000 so if something looks too good to be true look it over extra carefully. New truck prices have gone down but the ads are misleading. The $21,000 truck might cost 6 grand more by the time you buy a few extras and pay tax and delivery. My friend bought a bare bones 1/4 ton Ranger for $15k 2 years ago and it cost 20 even without extras. I still can't understand it..... 2wd and no power anything. He could of got one for the same price loaded to the nuts with 4wd if he'd bought a 3 year old one with 50,000 k on it.

Thanks bud, lots of good advice there.

And I agree I would want a 4x4 too.

magnumpi Jan 14th 2012 1:23 am

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Well i like the garage at the front look. Our garage sticks out from the house and dont take up any house room.

We looked at a few houses with garage in the house, rooms on top, but the inside of the house was so much smaller.

dbd33 Jan 14th 2012 1:45 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 9841832)
We looked at a few houses with garage in the house, rooms on top, but the inside of the house was so much smaller.

And the room over garage is always cold and usually full of poisonous fumes. An in-law suite, perhaps.

magnumpi Jan 14th 2012 2:18 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 9841864)
And the room over garage is always cold and usually full of poisonous fumes. An in-law suite, perhaps.

:D

Kirsty John and Dominic Jan 14th 2012 5:34 pm

Re: Are trucks really this cheap?
 
Also they are gas trucks look at the same year truck in diesel and they will be alot more.

Dave n Ailsa Jan 14th 2012 11:58 pm

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Originally Posted by Kirsty John and Dominic (Post 9842763)
Also they are gas trucks look at the same year truck in diesel and they will be alot more.

That's fine, diseasels are for farmers and tractors anyway. ;)


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