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Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Waggle
(Post 9650169)
On the contrary - what we all think about the capital punishment laws is at the very heart of this thread's debate.
Wayne. |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9650173)
Not in Iraq it isn't;)
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Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 9650163)
What people think about laws is what leads them to be adopted in the first place, or subsequently changed. Laws get changed all the time, I would have thought that as a lawyer you would have realised that.
It must be nice to live in a moral vacuum where you dont have any opinions on "right and wrong", although it must make for dull Friday afternoons. For the record, so as to avoid any doubt, I have no issue with the likes of Hitler, Saddam Hussein, Mladic, etc. being put to death. I really don't. Call it bloodlust, revenge, justice, whatever you wish to, I really don't care. I sleep in a very comfortable fashion each and every night. I'll leave the debate as to what type of person I am and how civilised I am to those that think it worthy of debate. |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 9650181)
Why, is the universal declaration of human rights different in Iraq:rolleyes:
How you do reconcile wishing to impose your wishes on Iraqis with your objection to the West "invading" Iraqi so as to overthrow a dictator? Is one any more justified that the other? Are they not attempting to benefit the Iraqi people (setting aside the incompetent way the "invasion" was handled? |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9650188)
According to Iraqi law it is.
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Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9650188)
According to Iraqi law it is.
How you do reconcile wishing to impose your wishes on Iraqis with your objection to the West "invading" Iraqi so as to overthrow a dictator? It simply wrong to take any human life in cold blood. I sleep fine at night too, (unless shes snoring:unsure:) |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Alan2005
(Post 9650203)
Yes, the law is immutable. It wasn't wrong to burn women at the stake or drown them because they might be witches because it was the law.
Tell you what, nip over to Iraq and tell them that they are all neanderthals and that the laws of the West are far superior. Take a picture of Mr. Trudeau and a copy of the Charter and tell them that he is the epitome of a decent chap and that they should all embrace all that he had to say. Different strokes, different folks and all that. |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 9650205)
Its a UNIVERSAL declaration, Iraq signed up to the UN articles in 1948.
Same way I reconcile wishing to impose my views with regard to capital punishment on the Americans, the Chinese, the Japanese etc ad nauseum. It simply wrong to take any human life in cold blood. I sleep fine at night too, (unless shes snoring:unsure:) |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9650140)
I said nothing about criminals. I don't believe one should execute people for stealing a bottle of water but I don't believe there is much amiss with executing those that have killed more than the digits most people have on their hands and feet. Maybe it would be better to simply execute them when they resist capture. Shit, can't do that, been tried and the public outcry was too much.
The old days were much better, then one could gas an entire district without so much as grumble (Hussein not Hitler):huh: |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 9650366)
Will you be the one who pulls the lever?
Having said that, hanging is a little inhumane, a round to the head would be much better. |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by Almost Canadian
(Post 9650469)
I wouldn't expect anyone to do anything I wouldn't be prepared to do myself, otherwise I would be guitly of Bono Syndrome so, the answer is: yes
Having said that, hanging is a little inhumane, a round to the head would be much better. |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Alright...for all you Bono haters, at least he is out there doing it and raising the awareness. What are others of that elk doing? F'all, unless they have a movie / album coming out. Bill Gates and Melinda also do their bit, and God bless them both. You don't read about Melinda coming out of some fancy restaurant exposing her knickers or t1t$, or walking down some red carpet
http://www.sott.net/image/image/s2/57962/full/bono_.jpg The guy has swagger and is the king of cool ;) |
Re: Troy Davis execution
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 9650770)
Alright...for all you Bono haters, at least he is out there doing it and raising the awareness. What are others of that elk doing? F'all, unless they have a movie / album coming out. Bill Gates and Melinda also do their bit, and God bless them both. You don't read about Melinda coming out of some fancy restaurant exposing her knickers or t1t$, or walking down some red carpet
http://www.sott.net/image/image/s2/57962/full/bono_.jpg The guy has swagger and is the king of cool ;) |
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