Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Aug 31st 2019, 2:04 pm
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Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
wow every single day now a shooting, sometimes even 2-3 or more shootings a day, in daylight too
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Aug 31st 2019, 2:21 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Political correctness. Take a deep dive into these shootings and who is responsible then you might just see a pattern but of course coming out and saying this is frowned upon.
Aug 31st 2019, 2:27 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Hmm, Ajax just had a shoot out the other night, at Rum Diaries a Caribbean bar, one of the shooters was arrested at home, at Jane Finch ?? WTF shoot ya own neighbours not mine you idiot !!!
Aug 31st 2019, 2:32 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
wow every single day now a shooting, sometimes even 2-3 or more shootings a day, in daylight too
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Aug 31st 2019, 2:42 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
The issue is these idiots fired off a dozen shots Thursday eve and missed their target, that’s a possible 12 stray bullets hitting passing cars or entering a house window yards away
Aug 31st 2019, 2:51 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
wow every single day now a shooting, sometimes even 2-3 or more shootings a day, in daylight too
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Bank holiday weekend is upon us, start counting the shootings now, last night one dead in brampton
Why can’t the police get a grip on this, what’s stopping them?
Mandantary sentencing would be a start but no mention of that yet.
Canada is so left, liberal and human rights orientated that the policing and the tactics that the police are allowed to use is frankly too soft.
Aug 31st 2019, 3:39 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
And, am I correct in assuming that you accuse our 'left, liberal and human rights orientated' politicians of preventing the police from actively doing their job?
Perhaps a Trump-like administration would be more to your liking where pardons are dangled to encourage government employees to serve the state by breaking the law, or would a Duterte-like regime would suit, where police death squads roam the streets to rid the streets of feral children, or maybe a far left Stalin-like administration would help.
Personally, I prefer to know that the cop I see on the street is bound by the laws of the nation and not by the whims of some lunatic politician of whatever hue you'd prefer.
It's a slippery slope and once on it it's difficult to get off.
Aug 31st 2019, 3:50 pm
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Do I suspect from your post that you're politics lies a little right of centre?
And, am I correct in assuming that you accuse our 'left, liberal and human rights orientated' politicians of preventing the police from actively doing their job?
Perhaps a Trump-like administration would be more to your liking where pardons are dangled to encourage government employees to serve the state by breaking the law, or would a Duterte-like regime would suit, where police death squads roam the streets to rid the streets of feral children, or maybe a far left Stalin-like administration would help.
Personally, I prefer to know that the cop I see on the street is bound by the laws of the nation and not by the whims of some lunatic politician of whatever hue you'd prefer.
It's a slippery slope and once on it it's difficult to get off.
And, am I correct in assuming that you accuse our 'left, liberal and human rights orientated' politicians of preventing the police from actively doing their job?
Perhaps a Trump-like administration would be more to your liking where pardons are dangled to encourage government employees to serve the state by breaking the law, or would a Duterte-like regime would suit, where police death squads roam the streets to rid the streets of feral children, or maybe a far left Stalin-like administration would help.
Personally, I prefer to know that the cop I see on the street is bound by the laws of the nation and not by the whims of some lunatic politician of whatever hue you'd prefer.
It's a slippery slope and once on it it's difficult to get off.
With 350 gun crime individuals being let out on bail this year alone it maybe another issue at the court level too
Aug 31st 2019, 4:24 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
The path to reducing gun violence in Canada is clear enough; fight the NRA, get gun bans introduced in the US, cut down the supply of weaponry, It's not going to happen under the Trump administration.
Aug 31st 2019, 4:31 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
The meth trade is tied into gun crime as well; meth use goes up and gun crime goes up with it.
Aug 31st 2019, 5:34 pm
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Hard cases make bad laws.
One can only hope that this doesn't become an excuse for repressive legislation targeting the likes of me who has never owned a firearm.
Sep 2nd 2019, 12:23 am
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Hi
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
Sep 2nd 2019, 12:52 am
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Hi
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
At least with a gang on gang knife stabbing issue, no bystanders will get killed by stray knife stabs
Sep 3rd 2019, 12:34 am
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Do I suspect from your post that you're politics lies a little right of centre?
And, am I correct in assuming that you accuse our 'left, liberal and human rights orientated' politicians of preventing the police from actively doing their job?
Perhaps a Trump-like administration would be more to your liking where pardons are dangled to encourage government employees to serve the state by breaking the law, or would a Duterte-like regime would suit, where police death squads roam the streets to rid the streets of feral children, or maybe a far left Stalin-like administration would help.
Personally, I prefer to know that the cop I see on the street is bound by the laws of the nation and not by the whims of some lunatic politician of whatever hue you'd prefer.
It's a slippery slope and once on it it's difficult to get off.
And, am I correct in assuming that you accuse our 'left, liberal and human rights orientated' politicians of preventing the police from actively doing their job?
Perhaps a Trump-like administration would be more to your liking where pardons are dangled to encourage government employees to serve the state by breaking the law, or would a Duterte-like regime would suit, where police death squads roam the streets to rid the streets of feral children, or maybe a far left Stalin-like administration would help.
Personally, I prefer to know that the cop I see on the street is bound by the laws of the nation and not by the whims of some lunatic politician of whatever hue you'd prefer.
It's a slippery slope and once on it it's difficult to get off.
I've voted Labour in the UK and at the ballot box last time out I voted Liberal in Canada.
Canada is a ridiculously left leaning country though in my opinion. We're stuck with a civil service that is large, inefficient and overpaid that punishes the rest of us and the policing is too soft.
I'm not sure what Donald Trump has to do with Canadian politics as he is president of the United States which is a different country that has a very different political system.
Last edited by JamesM; Sep 3rd 2019 at 12:37 am.
Sep 3rd 2019, 12:40 am
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Re: Toronto Guns n Gangs problem
Hi
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
My opinion, the problem is the gangs
getting rid of the guns won't do it
maybe stopping the guns coming up from the US illegally across the border may help a bit
but it will then be a knife/stabbing problem, like there is in the UK
It needs some sort of new approach
cheers J
The police need more powers to take preventative measures against known crime linked individuals.
In London the riots were broken by hacking Blackberry messenger and paying the ring leaders a nice visit. That would never happen in Canada as the backbone simply isn't in place.