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bats Jul 24th 2013 3:28 pm

and talking of black boxes
 
http://www.thepeterboroughexaminer.c...orough-airport

Yesterday,

As a non planey person i don't understand why, if the plane was amphibious, that it didn't land in the lake instead?

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 3:30 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 
If an amphib tries to land on water with wheels down ( or even just one) they tend to flip upside down
like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IoiW8n5mc

Souvy Jul 24th 2013 3:44 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817011)
If an amphib tries to land on water with wheels down ( or even just one) they tend to flip upside down
like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IoiW8n5mc

That's probably not a good thing, right?

bats Jul 24th 2013 3:54 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817011)
If an amphib tries to land on water with wheels down ( or even just one) they tend to flip upside down
like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56IoiW8n5mc

Well they do that deliberately with kayaks, could be a nice stunt trick?

Jingsamichty Jul 24th 2013 3:55 pm

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"I'm just glad he landed safely" said a witness, through gritted teeth as he put away his phone video camera and kissed goodbye to any hopes of selling the dramatic crash footage.

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 3:58 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 
I'm not sure if anyone has ever tried to eskimo roll a float plane.

I think it does qualify as one of those "things we generally try to avoid doing"

I could ask my instructor but he may wonder what I plan on getting up to when he cuts me loose for my next solo flight , so maybe not.

(especially as I didn't exactly do what I was meant to last time either!)

Animal Jul 24th 2013 4:05 pm

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817054)
I could ask my instructor but he may wonder what I plan on getting up to when he cuts me loose for my next solo flight , so maybe not.

(especially as I didn't exactly do what I was meant to last time either!)

plan spam. I'm sure what the instructor says is only for guidance anyway ;)

Souvy Jul 24th 2013 4:08 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817054)
I'm not sure if anyone has ever tried to eskimo roll a float plane.

I think it does qualify as one of those "things we generally try to avoid doing"

I could ask my instructor but he may wonder what I plan on getting up to when he cuts me loose for my next solo flight , so maybe not.

(especially as I didn't exactly do what I was meant to last time either!)

I often wonder about the float planes. We get quite a few passing overhead from, I guess, the Ottawa River to some lake or other. They come low, seem to have the aerodynamic qualities of a brick and move very slowly. How the hell do they stay in the air?

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 4:11 pm

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the best I can figure is a honking big engine and an insane pilot

the local guys who take off the amphibs from City are certifiable. Even when using the runway they pull of moves that would have my instructor grounding me permanently.

Souvy Jul 24th 2013 4:15 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817066)
the best I can figure is a honking big engine and an insane pilot

the local guys who take off the amphibs from City are certifiable. Even when using the runway they pull of moves that would have my instructor grounding me permanently.

I think we have the makings of a TV series here.

"Billy Bishop Certifiables" <working title>

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 4:21 pm

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no one calls it Billy Bishop

to ATC it is still "City Tower" you call (or City ground)

Occasionally I hear someone call it "Billy-Bob" airport which amuses me for some reason

it was a silly name to pick , although I fully intend to fly from the "South terminal" to the "North terminal" when I get my license

Souvy Jul 24th 2013 4:29 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817083)
no one calls it Billy Bishop

to ATC it is still "City Tower" you call (or City ground)

Occasionally I hear someone call it "Billy-Bob" airport which amuses me for some reason

it was a silly name to pick , although I fully intend to fly from the "South terminal" to the "North terminal" when I get my license

There is more than one terminal?

I didn't think the island was big enough.

Simon Legree Jul 24th 2013 4:33 pm

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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell (Post 10817066)
the best I can figure is a honking big engine and an insane pilot

the local guys who take off the amphibs from City are certifiable. Even when using the runway they pull of moves that would have my instructor grounding me permanently.

I used to fly a 172 amphib and it had no bother getting off the water. Hardly a honking big engine ! I might well be insane though. :)

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 4:33 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 
two billy bishop airports

one in Toronto ( south terminal) and another whose location escapes me at the momwnt
slightly north of GTA i think

Zoe Bell Jul 24th 2013 4:34 pm

Re: and talking of black boxes
 

Originally Posted by Simon Legree (Post 10817107)
I used to fly a 172 amphib and it had no bother getting off the water. Hardly a honking big engine ! I might well be insane though. :)

bigger engine than my little R model though I suspect.

I've seen the guys at City turn onto final half way down the runway :ohmy:


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