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magnumpi Aug 27th 2013 7:16 am

Syria
 
Ohh dear, looks like another middle eastern war is about to get going.

UK is upset as are the French and US, oh and Canada at the back of the group are on the fence for now. (They should stay on the fence IMO)

But why will killing 2-3,000 people using cruise and other long range missiles make things any better? It's bad that they gassed a 1,000 people but killing 1,000's more ain't the answer.

Instead:
Just send in the SAS and kill the head guy who ordered the gassing but don't tell anyone who did it.

CanadaJimmy Aug 27th 2013 7:19 am

Re: Syria
 
Seems to be a very volatile issue, since Iraq everyone thinks the US starts wars for it's own benefit, even though it recently came out that the US didn't want to get involved before because it was thought that the rebel forces would not support US interests. That chemical attack was horrifying though, and those responsible should be held to account.

I hadn't heard anything about cruise missiles, I assumed it would be a more traditional military operation.

Oink Aug 27th 2013 7:29 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 10872765)
Ohh dear, looks like another middle eastern war is about to get going.

UK is upset as are the French and US, oh and Canada at the back of the group are on the fence for now. (They should stay on the fence IMO)

But why will killing 2-3,000 people using cruise and other long range missiles make things any better? It's bad that they gassed a 1,000 people but killing 1,000's more ain't the answer.

Instead:
Just send in the SAS and kill the head guy who ordered the gassing but don't tell anyone who did it.

Its not important what they think or do tbh. :rofl:

Now the Russians are going to be very grumpy and you've got to bet that the Russian-Snowden issue has a bearing on the US response.

magnumpi Aug 27th 2013 7:31 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by CanadaJimmy (Post 10872772)
Seems to be a very volatile issue, since Iraq everyone thinks the US starts wars for it's own benefit, even though it recently came out that the US didn't want to get involved before because it was thought that the rebel forces would not support US interests. That chemical attack was horrifying though, and those responsible should be held to account.

I hadn't heard anything about cruise missiles, I assumed it would be a more traditional military operation.

Just said on the news that they would "most likely start" with missiles, then go to land based fight.

http://www.itv.com/news/2013-08-27/s...uise-missiles/

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/4aba4736-0...#axzz2dCSQTcMG

Hard to know who to gun for tho ehh ?

For sure tho !!! Gas will go up !!!!

AllyS Aug 27th 2013 7:41 am

Re: Syria
 
CBC radio allocated it a 5 second slot this morning..... we were AMAZED to hear ANY international news at all.

mandymoochops Aug 27th 2013 8:24 am

Re: Syria
 
He's been. Killing his own people for ages just seems to be an issue now with how he's doing it.

magnumpi Aug 27th 2013 8:27 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by mandymoochops (Post 10872891)
He's been. Killing his own people for ages just seems to be an issue now with how he's doing it.

Looks like they stepped over the line now, should have just continued to use conventional methods of killing.

Mikeypm Aug 27th 2013 8:39 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 10872897)
Looks like they stepped over the line now, should have just continued to use conventional methods of killing.

Who decides what and where the line is?, the UN?

magnumpi Aug 27th 2013 8:41 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by Mikeypm (Post 10872911)
Who decides what and where the line is?, the UN?

Obama says jump, UK say high high

Greenhill Aug 27th 2013 9:03 am

Re: Syria
 
'Russia and China have stepped up their warnings against military intervention in Syria, with Moscow saying any such action would have "catastrophic consequences" for the region.' (BBC)

So the supplier of 80%+ of the military equipment to the Syrian Army doesn't want their client knocked out of power. Strange, that...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equipme...he_Syrian_Army

MarkG Aug 27th 2013 9:58 am

Re: Syria
 
Obama needs some news story to distract people from the NSA spying; bombing some random third-world coutnry is always good.

bats Aug 27th 2013 12:05 pm

Re: Syria
 
UK recalls parliament, Canada prorogues parliament.

How is getting involved supposed to help? A very expensive moral high ground. :Syria has been a shit place for years.

Souvy Aug 28th 2013 12:16 am

Re: Syria
 
We should not dismiss out of hand what the Russians are saying. It may be correct that some of the atrocities have been staged by the rebels (or the embedded Islamic militants) to goad the West into destroying the Assad regime, so that the Islamists can then take over.

Saddam, Gadaffi and Mubarak had their faults but they kept the God-botherers under control.

Almost Canadian Aug 28th 2013 1:23 am

Re: Syria
 

Originally Posted by bats (Post 10873152)
How is getting involved supposed to help? A very expensive moral high ground. :Syria has been a shit place for years.

Tell that to those that are being killed.

You appear to be an advocate for the withdrawal of all western forces from Iraq due to the number of innocent civilian casualties, but don't wish to offer the same protection for a similar number of innocent civilian casualties in Syria.

Greenhill Aug 28th 2013 1:36 am

Re: Syria
 
Similar reaction from Iran, too:

"Iran's Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei warned on Wednesday that US intervention would be a "disaster" for the region.

"The region is like a gunpowder store and the future cannot be predicted," Mr Khamenei said, according to Iran's Isna news agency." (BBC)


I'm not sure how this one will play out, probably just a few well-aimed cruise missiles at the ophthalmologist and his regime?


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