Supporting The Guardian
#18
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
Funny thing, coffee. People often think that it's addictive. It isn't. I haven't had a coffee since Monday. I got back home to discover that my darling missus had bought a new coffee maker. She isn't here and I can't be arsed to figure out how the thing works.
#19
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
I chucked a fiver in the voluntary contribution pot the other day. If it goes behind a paywall, I'll put a subscription on my Christmas list.
I like the live coverage of major worldwide happenings, & some of the 'in depth' stuff, but in general, it's not as good as it used to be.
I like the live coverage of major worldwide happenings, & some of the 'in depth' stuff, but in general, it's not as good as it used to be.
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
The comparison of "less than the price of a coffee" annoys me too.
I'm not Souvy's wife, but if I could just work out how MY new coffeemaker works, I'd be a bit happier...
#21
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
I'm one of those people who thinks she *needs* a coffee. One, very occasionally two, first thing in the morning. Brewed at home.
The comparison of "less than the price of a coffee" annoys me too.
I'm not Souvy's wife, but if I could just work out how MY new coffeemaker works, I'd be a bit happier...
The comparison of "less than the price of a coffee" annoys me too.
I'm not Souvy's wife, but if I could just work out how MY new coffeemaker works, I'd be a bit happier...
I'm not sure my missus knows how to use the thing either. She'd made coffee on Saturday before heading off. I got home on Tuesday. The machine was still on and the coffee in the jug had a healthy culture of mould growing on it.
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
Have you tried turning off and then on again?
I'm not sure my missus knows how to use the thing either. She'd made coffee on Saturday before heading off. I got home on Tuesday. The machine was still on and the coffee in the jug had a healthy culture of mould growing on it.
I'm not sure my missus knows how to use the thing either. She'd made coffee on Saturday before heading off. I got home on Tuesday. The machine was still on and the coffee in the jug had a healthy culture of mould growing on it.
It's too fancy for its own good . I should suggest Rhik Samadder review it...
#23
Re: Supporting The Guardian
I'm one of those people who thinks she *needs* a coffee. One, very occasionally two, first thing in the morning. Brewed at home.
The comparison of "less than the price of a coffee" annoys me too.
I'm not Souvy's wife, but if I could just work out how MY new coffeemaker works, I'd be a bit happier...
The comparison of "less than the price of a coffee" annoys me too.
I'm not Souvy's wife, but if I could just work out how MY new coffeemaker works, I'd be a bit happier...
Staying doggedly off topic, I too drink two mugs of self-brewed strong coffee every morning, but none during the rest of the day.
#24
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
Jeez. I've got people lining up to deny being my wife!
#26
Re: Supporting The Guardian
I've done the odd donation to it before. Wiki too.
I'm actually not keen on that at all. When something has happened it can often be a devil of a job to find out what as it's down the bottom somewhere and it keeps updating/moving just as I'm reading something.
I like the live coverage of major worldwide happenings
#27
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Re: Supporting The Guardian
She scared the crepe out of me the other day. She phoned up to ask how to use our son's table saw. My first thought was one of absolute terror. My second, more moderated, thought was one of total fear. I made her use the little circular saw instead. She knows how to use that.
#28
Re: Supporting The Guardian
I'm feeling more inclined to do it now.
Like many other websites they have "promoted links" (Outbrain) and although they are identified as such, there are times when it looks quite like the related stories or the People section. And the Guardian often does the same sort of ten best beaches/restaurants/cities etc.
Sometimes they do arouse my interest and it needs anything up to 30 'next' clicks to get what you want and the thing that sucked you in isn't even there.
Or the content doesn't match the hook. They even had one about Andre Agassi but the accompanying photo was John McEnroe.
But it's worse now. Instead of just fake news (© D Trump) sometimes disguised as advertising, there's also obvious advertising but it's based on my internet activity. I don't know why, but that image of a specific bike, computer, whatever, that I looked at on some other website annoys me far more than Amazon or Staples bombarding me with silly emails saying "you might be interested in something we know you already bought from us, but there you go"
So if I'm irritated, why am I getting closer to 'supporting' with a monthly payment?
Because now they actually respond to my emails complaining and they withdraw the misleading Outbrain links when I complain about individual ones.
If you could sign in as a 'subscriber' and elect to block (or at least minimise) certain sections, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
But maybe arguing that while actually a payer/supporter might have more weight?
Like many other websites they have "promoted links" (Outbrain) and although they are identified as such, there are times when it looks quite like the related stories or the People section. And the Guardian often does the same sort of ten best beaches/restaurants/cities etc.
Sometimes they do arouse my interest and it needs anything up to 30 'next' clicks to get what you want and the thing that sucked you in isn't even there.
Or the content doesn't match the hook. They even had one about Andre Agassi but the accompanying photo was John McEnroe.
But it's worse now. Instead of just fake news (© D Trump) sometimes disguised as advertising, there's also obvious advertising but it's based on my internet activity. I don't know why, but that image of a specific bike, computer, whatever, that I looked at on some other website annoys me far more than Amazon or Staples bombarding me with silly emails saying "you might be interested in something we know you already bought from us, but there you go"
So if I'm irritated, why am I getting closer to 'supporting' with a monthly payment?
Because now they actually respond to my emails complaining and they withdraw the misleading Outbrain links when I complain about individual ones.
If you could sign in as a 'subscriber' and elect to block (or at least minimise) certain sections, I'd do it in a heartbeat.
But maybe arguing that while actually a payer/supporter might have more weight?
#29
Re: Supporting The Guardian
We buy the actual newspaper in the UK on Saturdays and the Observer on Sundays. The Guardian group is in serious financial trouble though, so perhaps a subscription service (with basic free access for all) is the way forward.
I've thought a lot about signing up as a supporter but just have a natural disinclination to join things, even things I support or am in favour of.
If it's a choice between signing up or the Guardian closing, I'll sign up of course, but in the meantime I'll probably just continue buying the weekend papers.
I've thought a lot about signing up as a supporter but just have a natural disinclination to join things, even things I support or am in favour of.
If it's a choice between signing up or the Guardian closing, I'll sign up of course, but in the meantime I'll probably just continue buying the weekend papers.
#30
Re: Supporting The Guardian
We buy the actual newspaper in the UK on Saturdays and the Observer on Sundays. The Guardian group is in serious financial trouble though, so perhaps a subscription service (with basic free access for all) is the way forward.
I've thought a lot about signing up as a supporter but just have a natural disinclination to join things, even things I support or am in favour of.
If it's a choice between signing up or the Guardian closing, I'll sign up of course, but in the meantime I'll probably just continue buying the weekend papers.
I've thought a lot about signing up as a supporter but just have a natural disinclination to join things, even things I support or am in favour of.
If it's a choice between signing up or the Guardian closing, I'll sign up of course, but in the meantime I'll probably just continue buying the weekend papers.
However, they changed their advertising provider a couple of months ago and now the adverts crash my browser and hang not only the Guardian window but all other browser windows. Inferior technology rather than an ideological shift has me using the BBC for UK news.