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Alan2005 Feb 14th 2013 4:02 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10544893)
and there's always denial.

don't forget dissonance.

Hawk13 Feb 14th 2013 4:02 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10544875)
http://www.thestar.com/yourtoronto/e...vey_finds.html

"The overwhelming worry and anxiety that kids as young as 12 are suffering from is not only a “wake-up call” but a call to action, said Canada’s largest school board in releasing the results of a student survey showing troubling numbers of Toronto tweens and teens are stressed out about their futures, lacking confidence and feeling down'


better life for the kids my arse.

I dunno, my kids have it easier than I had but then I had it easier than my parents.

I think that has a lot to do with how your raised as everyone has those feelings, it's how you deal with it the matters.

ExKiwilass Feb 14th 2013 4:07 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by Alan2005 (Post 10544911)
don't forget dissonance.

:thumbup:

Shard Feb 14th 2013 4:09 am

Re: Suicides
 
You can't really write off experiences other kids have based on your own and your own kids' experience. The fact is everyone is different, and actual suicides prove the degree of difference that can exist.

Previous generations of kids grew up in a (slightly) less materialistic, sexualised world. And there was no social-networking like Facebook to contend with. It is a different time with different factors.

magnumpi Feb 14th 2013 4:11 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by Shard (Post 10544936)
You can't really write off experiences other kids have based on your own and your own kids' experience. The fact is everyone is different, and actual suicides prove the degree of difference that can exist.

Previous generations of kids grew up in a (slightly) less materialistic, sexualised world. And there was no social-networking like Facebook to contend with. It is a different time with different factors.

How are your kids coping with life in CAnada. Maybe this could be a good place for a survey on ex pat kids new life, just to gat a feel of if it is ok or not for them?

Maybe Brit kids are made of sterner stuff?

ExKiwilass Feb 14th 2013 4:13 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 10544945)
How are your kids coping with life in CAnada. Maybe this could be a good place for a survey on ex pat kids new life, just to gat a feel of if it is ok or not for them?

that's anecdotal evidence -not a study. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing.

It's interesting to me that we have an actual study here - of hundreds of kids - and posters are downplaying the results - which are BAD - based on their own/kid's experiences. Not what they want to read, perhaps?

magnumpi Feb 14th 2013 4:23 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10544951)
that's anecdotal evidence -not a study. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing.

It's interesting to me that we have an actual study here - of hundreds of kids - and posters are downplaying the results - which are BAD - based on their own/kid's experiences. Not what they want to read, perhaps?

Not my own kid, although he is a start. He knows other kids, I also know them too, they appear normal, also his soccer team, and church friends, they all appear to be none suicidal.

Although we do have one Canadian friend who son is drug dependant. But in the UK I knew lots of drug dependant people, and a few kids, a lot more than I see here. But that's drugs not suicide, although similar outcome.

Danny B Feb 14th 2013 4:31 am

Re: Suicides
 
What a morbid thread to start on this joyous Valentines day...

Hawk13 Feb 14th 2013 4:36 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by ExKiwilass (Post 10544951)
that's anecdotal evidence -not a study. Anecdotal evidence proves nothing.

It's interesting to me that we have an actual study here - of hundreds of kids - and posters are downplaying the results - which are BAD - based on their own/kid's experiences. Not what they want to read, perhaps?

Downplaying the results? Didn't read that into any of the posts so far - people are just giving their own view.

Don't think I'd base everything in life on studies and statistics.

Hawk13 Feb 14th 2013 4:37 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 10544995)
What a morbid thread to start on this joyous Valentines day...

+1 On any day actually

magnumpi Feb 14th 2013 4:38 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by Danny B (Post 10544995)
What a morbid thread to start on this joyous Valentines day...

It's ok, the report does not say all the kids are suicidal, it says they are stressed out about their futures and schooling. Who isn't a bit stressed, we ain't all 70's hippies feeling the chill man.

So relax and go back to bed and wait. :ohmy:

ExKiwilass Feb 14th 2013 4:54 am

Re: Suicides
 
I disagree, it's a good thread about an important topic :thumbup:

Oink Feb 14th 2013 5:20 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 10544979)
Not my own kid, although he is a start. He knows other kids, I also know them too, they appear normal, also his soccer team, and church friends, they all appear to be none suicidal.

Although we do have one Canadian friend who son is drug dependant. But in the UK I knew lots of drug dependant people, and a few kids, a lot more than I see here. But that's drugs not suicide, although similar outcome.

:zzz:

magnumpi Feb 14th 2013 5:22 am

Re: Suicides
 

Originally Posted by Oink (Post 10545150)
:zzz:

Who knows tho ehh?

ninaDGBCA Feb 14th 2013 7:05 am

Re: Suicides
 
IMO it can happen anywhere and is a more teenage specific problem and not country specific. Growing up is confusing for teenagers, dealing with hormonal changes, wanting to be liked and fitting in. Today they have even more pressure put on them through all the social media and the worse economy and therefore the feeling they need to succeed. I think it is a mix of more pressure through society to become rich or famous or "somebody", pretty and likable. Some parents being too busy to finance the lifestyle they want to have and sometimes overseeing their children's needs. And just that being a teenager sucks in general. Classmates being mean and teachers overwhelmed. Also some children cope better. I don't believe it is particularly a Canadian problem.


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