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Re: Stay in school kids!
It is good to encourage children to make the most of their opportunities. Sometimes a bit of tough love might be appropriate if you think your child is malingering. However, not all kids get much benefit from being in school. When I was young the vast majority of children left school at 16.
I hated my school. I am quite severely dyslexic and was not considered as university material. As a result, I was treated as a dead weight by the masters at my school who only seemed concerned with the prestige of the universities their pupils were accepted to. Although I stuck it out till 18 and emerged with an A level it was really two wasted, thoroughly unpleasant, years. I got into cash management and accounting because I did not have problem with numbers. I took an accounting A level by correspondence course when I was 22 to get the minimum necessary to enroll as a student with the ACCA. It was the same problem though. I could cope with the accounting courses but anything that required a written explanation was hopeless. I needed to edit and re-edit anything I wrote five or six times before it made sense. Impossible in the time allowed in an exam. I was 26 when I first had use of a computer with a word processor. My world changed overnight. This is all a preamble to my decision not to fight my son when he wanted to drop out in grade 11. Drop out might be the wrong word. He thought he was not benefiting from being there, something his teachers agreed with. It is not that he is stupid, but nothing in school motivated him to apply any effort. What was the point in forcing him? I knew from my own life that under-performing at school is not the end of the world. Sure, he spent a few years in minimum wage jobs, but he earns well above minimum wage now. He has never had trouble getting work, even though he often quits a job when he has saved enough money to go travelling. He always seems to find a new one as soon as he gets back. As a parent, you have to decide at what point you listen to your children and start to allow them to make their own life decisions. It is going to be a different age for different children. |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by Shirtback
(Post 11108124)
Sorry to 4Bells for contributing to nasty thread swerve :-(
Quebec does not recognize common law relationships, so couples shacked up together won't get nowt MORE BULL*** & inaccuracy http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ules-1.1322347 $50M lump sum sought by woman After separating, Lola sought spousal support, but Quebec's Civil Code provides no such provision for couples who are not legally married. Lola had been seeking a $50-million lump-sum payment as well as $56,000 a month from her former spouse — a well-known Quebec business tycoon known in the case as Eric. Lola was 17 when she met the then 32-year-old entrepreneur." In Canada, a disparity in income between two people in a relationship regardless of of gender when things down work out, is an automatic case for spousal support aka alimony. It's set in stone and I bet many people don't even know this....the highest earner will get nailed. BULL**** & inaccurate The Supreme Court of Canada in Bracklow v. Bracklow made the definition of entitlement very broad as it did state that a significant income disparity between the spouses that would result in a significant drop in the lower income spouse's standard of living, would generally mean entitlement for some support, as would cases where there have been children, as they might be the cause of a significant disparity in income because of child - rearing responsibilities. http://www.thepascoedifference.com/spousal-support.html |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108035)
I still think you are trying to pass the bucket to the teachers to fully educate your kids.....again, what is your job then? If one is not prepared to educate their own kids, why bother having them?
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Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108246)
I lived in the province of Quebec before and know what I speak of.......
here is a case that backs up what I speak of http://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/c...al_decides_on/ Backing up my fact again...it's clear that you are the one that is full of the "Bull" The Supreme Court of Canada in Bracklow v. Bracklow made the definition of entitlement very broad as it did state that a significant income disparity between the spouses that would result in a significant drop in the lower income spouse's standard of living, would generally mean entitlement for some support, as would cases where there have been children, as they might be the cause of a significant disparity in income because of child - rearing responsibilities. http://www.thepascoedifference.com/spousal-support.html |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11108256)
UR, we know that having to support your family burns you but it's got nothing to do with this thread. Why don't you go quietly into a corner and cut your nuts off so you don't make the same mistakes again?
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Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
(Post 11108259)
Please :)
I only have 1 child, and I can very well afford it, and be there for their education, as opposed to blaming the school and teachers :D |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108267)
At least least am not being a dead beat dad (dbd)....:D
I only have 1 child, and I can very well afford it, and be there for their education, as opposed to blaming the school and teachers :D Sorry , I meant I don't give a toss what you think :) |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108267)
I only have 1 child, and I can very well afford it, and be there for their education, as opposed to blaming the school and teachers :D
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Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by dbd33
(Post 11108286)
I think this string of words shows why that's not a very good idea. If you want someone who knows pipes you call a plumber, if you want someone who knows writing, you call a teacher.
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Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by The4BellsLondon
(Post 11108272)
Gods for you ! Right on ! Power to the people!
Sorry , I meant I don't give a toss what you think :) |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108294)
And if you want a parent...you definitely don't call a deadbeatdad, right?
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Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by ultrarunner
(Post 11108295)
Am sure you meant...Good? Yet you replied though?
And just reinforcing .. So you don't forget .. But you wouldn't as you are .... You choose..perfect? The dogs bollox, best thing since sliced bread? Bit of a mammary ? |
Re: Stay in school kids!
^^^All am saying is....if we as parents keep blaming the teachers and schools, what kind of message is that sending out to the kids and their future kids?
As I mentioned up thread, I don't believe the Asian parents amongst other races ever blame the schools...it takes a village and all that |
Re: Stay in school kids!
Originally Posted by Oink
(Post 11108025)
No. We know the role that culture/class has on academic expectations and success, so what happens to the children whose parents weren't fortunate to belong to higher socio-economic group and/or have had access to high levels of education. In Canada, there are a lot of immigrant children, children whose parents barely speak English. Are we to condemn these children to poorer educational expectations and chances because of an accident of birth. If the goal is a fairer society then schools are main institutions to help achieve this situation.
Parental drive and responsibility is wonderful, where available, but the system has to pick up any slack. |
Re: Stay in school kids!
I thinks it's the schools responsibility to educate a child, they are supposed to be the experts. It is my responsibility to make sure the child attends school. If the child is not attending, the responsibility of the school ends with informing the parent that the student is not there.
I believe that raising a child under the age of 12 is a very different experience to raising one over the age of 12 and those with no experience of the latter are in no position to criticize. |
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