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Old May 29th 2013, 12:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Oink
Its one the few things my American friends do well. Apart from very tiny and precedented situations, freedom of speech should be absolute.
Are you saying there is absolute freedom of speech in the US ? Surely not.
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Are you saying there is absolute freedom of speech in the US ? Surely not.
No, of course not but they [courts] will only limit it in, err limited circumstances. I fear that the UK with its gradual erosion of such a concept is becoming less open. All this bollox about not offending this group or another is worrisome to me.
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Voltaire: ‘I detest what you say; I will defend to the death your right to say it.’

If the intellectual liberty which without a doubt has been one of the distinguishing marks of western civilisation means anything at all, it means that everyone shall have the right to say and to print what he believes to be the truth, provided only that it does not harm the rest of the community in some quite unmistakable way. Both capitalist democracy and the western versions of Socialism have till recently taken that principle for granted. Our Government, as I have already pointed out, still makes some show of respecting it. The ordinary people in the street-partly, perhaps, because they are not sufficiently interested in ideas to be intolerant about them-still vaguely hold that ‘I suppose everyone’s got a right to their own opinion.’ It is only, or at any rate it is chiefly, the literary and scientific intelligentsia, the very people who ought to be the guardians of liberty, who are beginning to despise it, in theory as well as in practice.

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Originally Posted by floatsy
Voltaire: ‘I detest what you say; I will defend to the death your right to say it.’

If the intellectual liberty which without a doubt has been one of the distinguishing marks of western civilisation means anything at all, it means that everyone shall have the right to say and to print what he believes to be the truth, provided only that it does not harm the rest of the community in some quite unmistakable way. Both capitalist democracy and the western versions of Socialism have till recently taken that principle for granted. Our Government, as I have already pointed out, still makes some show of respecting it. The ordinary people in the street-partly, perhaps, because they are not sufficiently interested in ideas to be intolerant about them-still vaguely hold that ‘I suppose everyone’s got a right to their own opinion.’ It is only, or at any rate it is chiefly, the literary and scientific intelligentsia, the very people who ought to be the guardians of liberty, who are beginning to despise it, in theory as well as in practice.

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Old May 30th 2013, 2:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Shard
(if indeed it was Islamists and not, say, the EDL that painted the word).
I didn't think for a second it was Muslims who did this. I thought that it was obvious it was EDL/similar minded who did it to frame/incite (additional) mania.
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Old May 31st 2013, 3:43 am
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Originally Posted by floatsy
I didn't think for a second it was Muslims who did this. I thought that it was obvious it was EDL/similar minded who did it to frame/incite (additional) mania.
A tad quick to be jumping to conclusions me thinks....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-memorial.html
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Originally Posted by floatsy
I didn't think for a second it was Muslims who did this. I thought that it was obvious it was EDL/similar minded who did it to frame/incite (additional) mania.
With your ability to get to the root of the problem..I wonder if you have been asked to attend future COBRA gatherings?

You seem such an ass-et. Now that does seem obvious.
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Old May 31st 2013, 4:03 am
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Drummer Lee Rigby’s regiment urges members not to participate in ‘self-serving’ demonstrations

http://metro.co.uk/2013/05/30/drumme...tions-3822991/
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Originally Posted by airbornesapper
A tad quick to be jumping to conclusions me thinks....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...-memorial.html
Maybe it because I am on a device, but what am I supposed to see in the photo? It looks like an alien.
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Maybe it because I am on a device, but what am I supposed to see in the photo? It looks like an alien.
It's a muslim goddammit! Any right minded patriotic Brit can see that!
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Old May 31st 2013, 4:16 am
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Originally Posted by kimilseung
Maybe it because I am on a device, but what am I supposed to see in the photo? It looks like an alien.
That one is for the authorities to sort out, hopefully.

Certainly, it could be an alien, or someone who has a legal right to be in the UK

In closing, Inshallah etc, they nab the bastard....soon?
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Originally Posted by cjones
The picture proves nothing.
How do you know they're a Muslim?
They were probably "misguided" or "disenfranchised"
Could someone kindly remove the above post for me, as Mr Anus has done a flounce and removed the post to which it referred. (Also remove this post. Thanks)
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When I lived across from Kits beach, there was this naffing bloke who played the naffing bongos until the early hours. I felt like shoving those bongos up his jaxy. Now, the media keeps mentioning this bloke was a drummer. I'm just positing another theory that this attack maybe not be theologically inspired ideology at all.
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Originally Posted by Oink
When I lived across from Kits beach, there was this naffing bloke who played the naffing bongos until the early hours. I felt like shoving those bongos up his jaxy. Now, the media keeps mentioning this bloke was a drummer. I'm just positing another theory that this attack maybe not be theologically inspired ideology at all.
On a somewhat related note. Do the military still have buglers to wake them up in the morning?...You'd think they'd be prime candidates for a spot of friendly fire wouldn't you?
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Originally Posted by Oink
When I lived across from Kits beach, there was this naffing bloke who played the naffing bongos until the early hours. I felt like shoving those bongos up his jaxy. Now, the media keeps mentioning this bloke was a drummer. I'm just positing another theory that this attack maybe not be theologically inspired ideology at all.
Originally Posted by cjones
On a somewhat related note. Do the military still have buglers to wake them up in the morning?...You'd think they'd be prime candidates for a spot of friendly fire wouldn't you?
He was a soldier who was murdered while serving his country. One who has yet to be laid to rest.

These posts need shoving-up jaxys.....

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