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Old Aug 31st 2020, 4:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Danny B
I worked a 4 on 4 off schedule for 6 years. The shifts were 2x 12hr days and 2x 12hr nights.
Sleeping during the day was very hard for me, I came home from work at 7am completely exhausted, sleep like a log until 11am and then I was wide awake.

To help tire me out again, I got up and did some stuff around the house (yard work in Summer, or shoveling snow in the winter) for a few hours and went back to bed at 1pm. I slept for another 2-3 hrs and was then ready to go back to work for my last night shift.

I do not miss working shifts, it is hard on your body constantly flipping between days and nights. We used to call it "two play dates and two sleepovers".
Employers really shouldn't do that type of scheduling, should be all days or all nights, overnight shifts are hard enough on the body, adding in the flip flop to where the body can never adjust really causes issues.

Daytime sleep is of lower quality, the human brain isn't wired to sleep during the day so that also doesn't help when trying to sleep either.

Hardest part for me on overnights, was I was almost always working alone, and just trying to keep myself awake was hard, I'd be done with my work by 1am, so had 6 solid hours of having absolutely nothing to do but having to stay awake. I am pretty sure I dozed off at least once in my hotel working life....
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I'm reading all the responses and am very grateful for all of them: at least I'm not alone although I'm sorry others are suffering too.
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Don’t you worry Snowy, we are a great big club of followers out there!

Sleep is perhaps one of the most sort after things, that we cannot control, and we all want to do...so...it’s priceless.

Wanting to do something about it, and wanting to change it however can have great effects. Let us know how it goes and anything that works for you , and, possibly, us/we...
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I guess i should be honest. I'm suffering from anxiety and depression since about March. In March, April & May the insomnia was occasional then it late June it became more frequent. Recently it's improved but still at least half the week

Does anyone take Melatonin or practise mindfulness?

I just hope it recedes as the depression does.
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Old Aug 31st 2020, 11:12 pm
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I am a terrible sleeper, always have been even when I was a kid, I find it hard to get to sleep but my main problem is staying asleep, sometimes I wake up every hour, and then cant sleep as i start thinking about stuff....as Bats says ancient history dug up from the past! I dont know why!

I found exercise helped me, I used to do boot camp classes 3 times a week, I slept well those nights (for my standards), but of course gyms are all closed now, well no classses anyway.....and I find the gym alone is mind numbingly boring compared to doing classses, I hope the opportunity for that returns someday soon.

I find nytol is good for a couple if evenings per week, then I may take a gravol on another night, I try to do without anything the remaining days in the week, but I need at least 2 or three nights per week when I know I am going to sleep reasonably well.
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It's normal for me to wake up not feeling rested and I accepted it. For me it's coffee, any amount it doesn't matter and I won't get a good night's sleep...slow metabolism I guess. I cut it out and within 48 hours I was sleeping great, did that for a month. Then I went back to drinking it with the knowledge that I can just quit for a bit and get some decent sleep....textbook addict.

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similar diagnosis here
melatonin did nothing for me.

CBT , mindfulness and talking therapy were a lot more successful for me.

usually a massive link for me between depression and my insomnia

the insomnia I’m suffering from now is not depression related

also be aware if you are taking an antidepressant or anti anxiety meds, they can screw with your sleep



Originally Posted by Snowy560
I guess i should be honest. I'm suffering from anxiety and depression since about March. In March, April & May the insomnia was occasional then it late June it became more frequent. Recently it's improved but still at least half the week

Does anyone take Melatonin or practise mindfulness?

I just hope it recedes as the depression does.
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Does anyone take Melatonin or practise mindfulness?
My wife used to take it early evening but that was more to make her receptive to a major sleeping pill later that had some hallucinogenic side effects. My SD also takes it with some success.

I had a tooth snap off a couple of weeks ago and the dentist had a complicated extraction. Included in my 'recovery' instructions was advice to take acetaminophen and ibuprofen, not only at the same time but 650 and 600 respectively, That surprised me as previously I've been told to alternate and at the 500/400 dose.

I alternated as previously and it was fine but I was already used to taking a 500 acetaminophen at bed time to ward off occasional diabetic foot pain so it was just a small step up. So at bedtime I took one of each (500/400) and I've been doing that for a week. I don't have a problem getting off, it's the interruptions I suffer from albeit, that's a different (prostate) story. But so far it mostly gives me 4 or 5 hours straight.

Might not be the best solution but it's cheap and I'm well within recommended limits.
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Originally Posted by Zoe Bell
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also be aware if you are taking an antidepressant or anti anxiety meds, they can screw with your sleep
I held off taking the ADs because I read they can make insomnia worse.
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I'd happily settle for 4-5 hours straight sleeping. ...regularly.

Has anyone tried CBD oil for either anxiety or sleeplessness?

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Originally Posted by Snowy560
I guess i should be honest. I'm suffering from anxiety and depression since about March. In March, April & May the insomnia was occasional then it late June it became more frequent. Recently it's improved but still at least half the week

Does anyone take Melatonin or practise mindfulness?

I just hope it recedes as the depression does.
I hope this isn't too personal of a question, but how is your gut health?
Happy gut = happy mind.

If you are lying in bed at night and cannot sleep, I highly recommend listening to some Joe Rogan & Rhonda Patrick podcasts, episode #1178 is my favourite

https://www.health.harvard.edu/disea...ain-connection



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Well when the insomnia got worse I developed acidity which has been on and off. It happened simultaneously.

I also seem to get hungry during the nights I cannot sleep.

Millie: is Headspace worth subscribing to?
I downloaded a free app called Medito which is quite good but I think I should try a couple. The Mindfulness Movement recordings on YouTube were recommended to me but the ads are annoying.

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OH and I have completely different sleep issues, he is snoring on the couch right now, we will go to bed in the next few minutes he will be snoring before I've finished taking my contacts out and brushed my teeth. I will read for a while until my eyes feel droopy. I rarely sleep without waking two or three times. OH will wake about 2am, go and said the fridge, snooze on the couch, cone back to bed and be up for 5am, he then wakes me for 6am because he wants company lol I did do melatonin for a few months after a car accident just to help my mind rest. Can't remember the last time I had one.

As for CBD, its6going to sound weird, my puppy has it for separation anxiety when I go to work. It helps her a lot, she Doesn't pace but she does get into mischeif instead.
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I'm up for the 2nd time, catching a little late night talk show. I know I want another 2 or 3 hours sleep because a few days ago I was awake since 1:30 and even though I stayed in bed till 4 was tired all day. If I can drop off soon and sleep till 5 that would be nice, so going to try some 50/50 cbd-thc tincture.
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