Almost Canadian

What do you intend to do?

Gozit

Thanks

Oink

probably, learn Arabic, go back to Malta and open up a Bert’s, Fred’s or Bob’s Bar and Internet café and work for the Chinese MSS.

Former Lancastrian

Yes its right they should be allowed these apprenticeships. From the article
European freedom of movement laws mean the UK is powerless to stop EU migrants taking up coveted apprenticeship spots ahead of British people who are also looking for work.

If the shoe was on the other foot would Brits be complaining that why can't they get these apprenticeships under the EU rules.
The UK voted to join the EU so they either abide by the laws or vote to leave the EU if not happy.

JamesM

When did they vote to join the EU?

Piff Poff

It's high time the UK opted out of the EU, from a very limited knowledge of everything the EU does, it does seem to me that the EU rules benefits EU countries except the UK by allowing all other EU countries to move to the UK and claim benefits. Benefits that are better than their home country. I do think that if you are moving to another country, to better your life, you should be able to support yourself and your family by way of work, regardless of whether you are in the EU or not.

I know a couple, he is English and she Canadian, they got married last year. On two occasions she has tried to enter the UK without having the proper paperwork in place, he at the time could not have supported her as he was on benefits, I believe he has a job now. They were both annoyed that she could not gain entry (cheat the system) and have made some rather racist remarks. In this case I think it's right she was turned away, as they were trying to cheat the system. It's just a shame that the EU being what it is, can overcrowd a country to the point of breaking the infrastructure it has in place.

I'm not sure if the point I'm trying to make is coming across clearly or in the right way. I think the UK should be able to say something like these apprenticeships are designed to aid UK Nationals, if in the event places are not filled then non UK Nationals will be allowed to apply.

Almost Canadian

Do you have any actual evidence that the UK is becoming overrun with benefit seeking immigrants from the EU? I thought the objection was that Polish workers were "stealing" all the work from British ones.

I appreciate that I am a simpleton but both "arguments" cannot be correct

Former Lancastrian

1975

Labour Prime Minister Harold Wilson had a referendum on Britain’s membership – the last national referendum this country has had. 66% voted yes – to stay in the European Community

Almost Canadian

And their membership of the EU was authorised by their elected representatives.

JamesM

So basically no one under 40 who is able to vote now could vote then. Half the working populace and tax payers.

I'm indifferent about the whole apprenticeship thing. But it is probably time another referendum was held so the people can reaffirm their commitment to the EU or not.

orly

The European Union didn't exist in 1975. The EC did, but that's a completely different entity. The funny bit about Maastricht (1992) was it had a lot of focus on the Euro and financial responsibility rules. Stuff about deficits, inflation rates and government debt. Obviously as no citizens (to my knowledge) voted on it the EU inevitably decided there was no mandate to stick to it. We all saw what happened.

So no...1975 is a load of crap being honest.

Almost Canadian

I'll be interested to see what happens if a referendum on remaining/leaving is ever permitted. I also look forward to viewing the arguments put forward by both camps.

The simple fact of the matter is that most of the laws that expats wish were in operation in Canada came about as a result of EU directives.

Gozit

Well you got learn Arabic right I was contemplating learning Arabic as well as Maltese... Oh, and go back to Malta is right too

So to answer your question Almost Canadian, everything Oink has said. Oink knows me well

Oink

I know Malta very well.

Gozit