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scrubbedexpat091 Jun 6th 2017 5:13 am

Road Pricing
 
Looks like we may be getting closer and closer to road pricing in Metro Vancouver.

If it happens Ill have to quit my job, doubt we could afford to drive if paying by distance driven.

Question is where in BC are there jobs and affordable cost of living that isnt a small town.

Metro Vancouver mayor’s council to release details on charging drivers to use roads - BC | Globalnews.ca

magnumpi Jun 6th 2017 6:43 am

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Toronto Mayor tried to bring that here on roads already built and paid for, but the Fed Gov said no way

Oink Jun 6th 2017 6:44 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12267422)
Looks like we may be getting closer and closer to road pricing in Metro Vancouver.

If it happens Ill have to quit my job, doubt we could afford to drive if paying by distance driven.

Question is where in BC are there jobs and affordable cost of living that isnt a small town.

Metro Vancouver mayor’s council to release details on charging drivers to use roads - BC | Globalnews.ca

You must be able to skirt any congestion charge area to get to the airport.

withabix Jun 6th 2017 7:11 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12267486)
Toronto Mayor tried to bring that here on roads already built and paid for, but the Fed Gov said no way

Was that pre-Trudeau?

scrubbedexpat091 Jun 6th 2017 9:23 am

Re: Road Pricing
 
I have a feeling if/when they bring it in, they will have it region wide for all of Metro Vancouver and not just downtown.

Right now I go down Clark/Knight to Marine Dr and over Arthur Laing Bridge.

Other route I know is down Clark/Knight to 41st, then onto Cambie to Marine Dr to Arthur Laing Bridge.

Both those routes average 20 mins at 3:30am and 30 to 45 mins in the early afternoon (145pm).


Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12267487)
You must be able to skirt any congestion charge area to get to the airport.


dave_j Jun 6th 2017 2:00 pm

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Might be needed and even accepted in downtown Vancouver but political suicide in the Fraser Valley.

As Sir Humphrey would point out.. 'That's a courageous policy Minister, do you really think it's a good idea?'

scrubbedexpat091 Jun 7th 2017 9:39 am

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I doubt it will be province wide, but I would venture it would include parts of the Fraser Valley such as Langley, Surrey, Aldergrove as I believe they are part of Metro Vancouver.




Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12267692)
Might be needed and even accepted in downtown Vancouver but political suicide in the Fraser Valley.

As Sir Humphrey would point out.. 'That's a courageous policy Minister, do you really think it's a good idea?'


dave_j Jun 7th 2017 12:00 pm

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There's no congestion east of Surrey... except on the disaster that's Highway 1 and only then when the blind habitually drive into a ditch. Like I say, political suicide in the east.

scrubbedexpat091 Jun 7th 2017 12:32 pm

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Highway 1 simply sucks, way outdated and 2 lanes should have gone to 3 minimum all the way to Whatcom Rd. One of the factors that went into our move was not needing to drive highway 1 so often, last year we spent over $300 in Port Mann tolls, sat in traffic barely moving for who knows how many hours, simply not work it unless you can find a job in the valley and don't need to go into Vancouver often, but we basically needed to go 3-5 times a month, so got annoying living so far.




Originally Posted by dave_j (Post 12268409)
There's no congestion east of Surrey... except on the disaster that's Highway 1 and only then when the blind habitually drive into a ditch. Like I say, political suicide in the east.


magnumpi Jun 7th 2017 12:52 pm

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Originally Posted by withabix (Post 12267496)
Was that pre-Trudeau?

No it was January this year

Oakvillian Jun 9th 2017 3:34 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12268429)
No it was January this year

You are, presumably, aware that this was a Provincial government decision? The Feds had nothing to do with it.

The big issue for Toronto (I don't know if it's the same as Vancouver in this regard) wasn't so much congestion - although that's a challenge, for sure - but the cost of upkeep of the roads. Mike Harris' provincial government downloaded costs for the Gardiner and the Don Valley Parkway to the City, but didn't give them any additional revenue, or any means of raising additional revenue, to pay for the upkeep of what are to all intents and purposes provincial highways.

I suspect that Council knew perfectly well that the Province would say no, but that this was another salvo in a wider discussion about revenue tools for managing congestion in the city. And it has led to that broader discussion at least being entertained at a provincial level, although the amount of funding is nowhere near enough yet. Of course, if the city actually had a coherent anti-congestion policy ambition that lasted more than six months before being debated to death and started again, I suspect that successive provincial and federal governments may be more inclined to fund some of it...


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