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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7550857)
AmazonUS will charge $10 for a book produced in the US at US costs to someone in the USA. They'll sell the same book to me for the same $10 providing I pay the extra bit for the shipping costs. The test strips produced in the US at US costs, they will sell to someone in the US for $50. They won't let me buy them at all. Another company will sell the same strips in the US for the same $50 plus the postal rate for the US. They will sell the same strips to me but they'll charge $100 for them plus the additional cost to send them to me. That's not about production costs or delivery costs or import duties. something. Edited to add....sorry....in my example I'm not talking about cost variations. I know the woman who runs my store has had problems dealing with US companies, even small ones, esp on the east coast for some reason - getting them to do the right paperwork (NAFTA) to ship something....it's like they don't want to be bothered or don't get it or something. I guess they don't have to be because they have so many homegrown customers. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by bodgerx
(Post 7550881)
To send something out of the US, all you have to do is fill out a customs declaraction which all the major postal companies supply - takes seconds, state the declared value, what the item is, job done, not hard.
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by bodgerx
(Post 7550881)
To send something out of the US, all you have to do is fill out a customs declaraction which all the major postal companies supply - takes seconds, state the declared value, what the item is, job done, not hard.
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 7550932)
As a private individual thats true. As a business there is a world of paperwork involved, Our company was fined $500000 (HALF A MILLION) a few years ago for using the wrong codes in error. This is serious shit, our people are regularly retrained to prevent any reoccurance.
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by Kiwilass
(Post 7550944)
Wow.
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 7550878)
Because it costs them hundred of thousands to complete the canada specific medical licensing requirements and testing;)
The company that sells the test strips. Let's say they have 100 boxes to sell. Ignoring shipping costs that the mail order customer pays for, are you saying they incur some other additional expense in sending some of those boxes to Canada whereas they wouldn't incur them if they were all sent to US addresses? Another funny situation is ordering from Amazon's Marketplace sellers when the seller is in the US. If you order via Amazon.ca you pay for the item and then the 'domestic' postage rate. Order the same item from the same seller via the Amazon.com site and you pay the same cost but an international postage rate. You pay double when the same person is packing it, taking it to the PO and paying the same postage rate whether ordered via ca or com.:blink: |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7551072)
But hasn't that already been done and already paid for?
The company that sells the test strips. Let's say they have 100 boxes to sell. Ignoring shipping costs that the mail order customer pays for, are you saying they incur some other additional expense in sending some of those boxes to Canada whereas they wouldn't incur them if they were all sent to US addresses? Another funny situation is ordering from Amazon's Marketplace sellers when the seller is in the US. If you order via Amazon.ca you pay for the item and then the 'domestic' postage rate. Order the same item from the same seller via the Amazon.com site and you pay the same cost but an international postage rate. You pay double when the same person is packing it, taking it to the PO and paying the same postage rate whether ordered via ca or com.:blink: Hypothetically, as I have no idea of the legal position, lets say that they cant sell them in canada without meeting additional canadian testing requirements and federally mandated english and french language packaging... A not uncommon situation. They can either A: pass that cost on to the US customers too, making their position with 300Million US consumers less attractive by raising costs across the board. or B: Pass that cost onto the Canadian consumers alone, given that there are only 30M of them and there competitor is not interested in serving a market that small anyway so where else are they going to go. Which would you do... As for amazon, i dont know if they have two shipping warehouses, one north, one south of the border or not. I do know other mail order businesses that do that in order to bulk ship items over the border and ship from Canada at a lower rate, also avoiding delays for clearance on individual customers shipments at the border in the process. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by Kiwilass
(Post 7550888)
Not if you're trying to import something under NAFTA, I don't think. But whatever. That's the reality of what we've found, and even if it is easy, some US companies just aren't interested in doing it.
Yep, fair comment Iaink about the private individuals. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by bodgerx
(Post 7551124)
Isn't NAFTA supposed to make it easier?!
However, some people just don't want to know, because they don't have to fill out NAFTA paperwork for US customers do they? It's frustrating but if they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. Also they don't understand that's it's easy, they've never had to do it before, where the hell is Vancouver anyway, etc. etc. It's hard for me to understand too, believe me. NZ survives by exporting. It's just a whole new mentality. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by bodgerx
(Post 7551124)
Isn't NAFTA supposed to make it easier?!
Yep, fair comment Iaink about the private individuals. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by iaink
(Post 7551112)
Which would you do?
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7551193)
I'd do the sensible one:rofl: But given (in this example) the strips are produced by the same medical company to the same standards (north or south) anyway, there should be no additional testing procedures. I'm not sure that the supplier sticking a French label on the box justifies charging $100 instead of $50.:eek:
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by Kiwilass
(Post 7551141)
YES.
However, some people just don't want to know, because they don't have to fill out NAFTA paperwork for US customers do they? It's frustrating but if they don't want to do it, they don't want to do it. Also they don't understand that's it's easy, they've never had to do it before, where the hell is Vancouver anyway, etc. etc. Trying to get US companies to complete NAFTA certificates can be very trying. |
Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by BristolUK
(Post 7551193)
I'd do the sensible one:rofl: But given (in this example) the strips are produced by the same medical company to the same standards (north or south) anyway, there should be no additional testing procedures. I'm not sure that the supplier sticking a French label on the box justifies charging $100 instead of $50.:eek:
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Re: Rip Off Canada!
Originally Posted by Novocastrian
(Post 7551243)
I haven't paid much attention to this thread, I suppose I find it less interesting than blockheaters, but isn't this an example of "Rip off America"?
Although it is those north of the border being ripped off. |
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