Reflections on my life in Vancouver after a trip back to UK
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East Vancouver. Apartment window faces north.
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What a very interesting thread!
It's just that Fredericton is very insular, and people really are not interested in anyone who isn't from a 50 mile radius so newcomers aren't really required, in a social capacity, just required to pay taxes, buy things and support their flagging economy. The people are friendly to a fault, but they don't want me as a friend! They feel just the same way about people from Toronto too, if you aren't from here, you just are 'from away'.
it's just miles and miles of emptiness. .
It's just that Fredericton is very insular, and people really are not interested in anyone who isn't from a 50 mile radius so newcomers aren't really required, in a social capacity, just required to pay taxes, buy things and support their flagging economy. The people are friendly to a fault, but they don't want me as a friend! They feel just the same way about people from Toronto too, if you aren't from here, you just are 'from away'.
it's just miles and miles of emptiness. .
Its the same 3 questions....Where are you from? How long have you been here? Do you like it? Occasionally I am asked Why did you come here? (standard response is that it was prison or here ) and Have actually been asked When are you leaving? (up yours too lol) My GF read me an article from Acadie Nouvelle a while ago about a French couple who had settled in the North of NB. They described the people in much the same way that we both are but surmised that people here are not really friendly but are just curious in regards to the questions above. Once you have answered those that is the end of it.
The last part of the quote really sums up my social life here.
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Which is in contrast to New York, where again I've spent a lot of time for work, particularly in the last three years, and leisure, over the past 30 years. While the city feels familiar to me, it doesn't have anything more for me than that. Maybe if I lived there for an extended period I'd feel differently.
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Are you sure about that? It must be about 'fitting in' and identity, and maybe they only accept people that are willing to be like themselves. I think many of us cling to original identities and make barriers for ourselves and then project that. It won't be as easy the fit in to a Maratimes community as a big city, but with extra effort (modifying your accent, ignoring your past travels, for example) it should be possible, if it's something you really really want.
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I miss the UK and while Vancouver is a fairly reasonable place to live, obviously apart from the five and half months of almost constant rain, the boring cultural life, the disingenuous people, rubbish internet shopping, the government control of alcohol, bad Mexican food and the bears.
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Its a reasonable point but the reality of living here is that no matter how well you assimilate yourself to the locals you will always be 'from away'. I have tried to fit in, get along with and go along with them for 8 1/2 years. I have exactly 1 friend here who is a local.
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This sums up my experience of living here very well. I was back in the UK in June. I had twinges of homesickness before but not like this time. I am moving to Windsor next week and I am very much looking forward to that and to the new start. I had to think long and hard about if i wanted to move there or to the UK. I concluded that I am fed up with NB not so much Canada. The people are a big part of that - I dont fit in here. I feel like a fish out of water. I really dont understand the friendly but dont want to be friends thing. It just seems disingenuous. I dont think that its intentional as such but just a way of being.
Its the same 3 questions....Where are you from? How long have you been here? Do you like it? Occasionally I am asked Why did you come here? (standard response is that it was prison or here ) and Have actually been asked When are you leaving? (up yours too lol) My GF read me an article from Acadie Nouvelle a while ago about a French couple who had settled in the North of NB. They described the people in much the same way that we both are but surmised that people here are not really friendly but are just curious in regards to the questions above. Once you have answered those that is the end of it.
The last part of the quote really sums up my social life here.
Its the same 3 questions....Where are you from? How long have you been here? Do you like it? Occasionally I am asked Why did you come here? (standard response is that it was prison or here ) and Have actually been asked When are you leaving? (up yours too lol) My GF read me an article from Acadie Nouvelle a while ago about a French couple who had settled in the North of NB. They described the people in much the same way that we both are but surmised that people here are not really friendly but are just curious in regards to the questions above. Once you have answered those that is the end of it.
The last part of the quote really sums up my social life here.
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Obviously it depends on the context. If it's a coworker and a conversation never gets beyond that then there's a problem. If it's a taxi driver, waitress, nurse, someone on the bus, checkout operator etc that's all there's time for and it's better than "find everything you were looking for?"
Originally Posted by Alex2201
I am fed up with NB not so much Canada. The people are a big part of that - I dont fit in here.
It's not something I experience either way as I'm not naturally a mixer anyway.
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I get annoyed about living here mostly due to high cost of living, wages not a whole lot higher anymore when compared to the west coast of the US, but basics like food just costing so much these days.
More difficult to survive in Canada in general in our income level.
More difficult to survive in Canada in general in our income level.
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Joys of renting, lack of stability.....We have been in our current building for a year and a half now, maybe closer to 2 years, I forget exactly...
We are pretty much stuck here now, moving costs money and well those with little money cannot exactly move.
We are pretty much stuck here now, moving costs money and well those with little money cannot exactly move.
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Of course, millions manage to get by on the same income, so every case isn't the same. Millions like living in Vancouver too, and wouldn't move even for a lower cost of living. I have friends in Vancouver in their 60's who will never own their own house and both will probably have to work until they die but they aren't interested in living anywhere else. They both have degrees but not anything that helps him create jewellery or her to work in an office. The one constant is their work ethic; bills don't pay themselves. A lot of his jewellery goes overseas with returning tourists via the airport gift shops but it took decades to get to that point. He complains from time to time (me too, I'm pretty broke right now), but you can't let it define you. I like to think of myself as a potential lottery winner.
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You're in a loving relationship, one of you is working bringing in income. You have a roof over your head and a view of boring mountains. You live near the ocean. You have a cute dog, an hobby in the aquarium and you can afford both of these, including feeding the dog raw food and not Purina and table scraps.
If you did own your apartment it would be way more expensive to move. Home ownership isn't the be all and end all.
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Of course, millions manage to get by on the same income, so every case isn't the same. Millions like living in Vancouver too, and wouldn't move even for a lower cost of living. I have friends in Vancouver in their 60's who will never own their own house and both will probably have to work until they die but they aren't interested in living anywhere else. They both have degrees but not anything that helps him create jewellery or her to work in an office. The one constant is their work ethic; bills don't pay themselves. A lot of his jewellery goes overseas with returning tourists via the airport gift shops but it took decades to get to that point. He complains from time to time (me too, I'm pretty broke right now), but you can't let it define you. I like to think of myself as a potential lottery winner.
A couple million may live in Metro Vancouver, but Vancouver proper doesn't even have a million people, not even 700,000 yet........
I have ideas I could possibly make money from, but zoning, rental leases, and other hurdles prevent such ideas from becoming a reality.
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It is definitely the feeling of not belonging to me- because of course never grew up and went to school over here in Canada. Then as you say the humour, we always have a great belly laugh at UK comedy and jokes....over here its like a deer in headlights look from our canadian friends. For me I really miss the food....cant beat a Aunt Bessies Roastie etc...THat said I do enjoy living in the countryside and having lots of space for my doggies and my hubby! Its a question of quality of life versus the UK and being able to afford to live the same way for us.
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