Boy d

Boy d

I haven't been following the noted case and can't really comment. I do know the new commish Paulson has set up a task force to deal with the complaints and has made it known he is taking the complaints seriously.

Granted where there is smoke there is fire, but 140 allegations does not mean they are yet founded. If there are criminal offenses that are uncovered and there is enough evidence to lay charges, they will happen.

Harassment can also mean many things from something like a rude joke to something more serious and criminal.

There are 35000 employees in the RCMP so some perspective is needed. I have never seen any serious harassment of any type personally, but have heard of incidents, most are more idiotic than criminal.

ExKiwilass

But seriously dboy - do you think an officer planning to make a pass at a female officer would do it in front of everyone? etc?

el_richo

Maybe it's because i rarely read the papers or watch the news anymore but i've always felt Canada either glosses over these issues more than the UK, or even just ignores it in the media.

I recal in the UK anything remotely juicy would be ran with like a rat up a drainpipe, vilifying those involved whether guilty or not.

It wasn't long ago that a very short report in the morning news spoke of a guy sexually assaulting children in his daycare somewhere in BC (i forget). I've not noticed any coverage since (but i'm not really looking for it). In the UK it'd be hard to miss i would imagine.

The same was of a teacher out in the valley somewhere who did the same to school kids ages ago. Since a short bit on it.......nothing.

Probably why many Canadians appear happy and nice. They're removed from real life in many ways (or at least many negative aspects when compared to people in the UK). The other morning on the news there was a little bit about a stabbing and the guy was on the loose. The main part of the news was showing the news people trying to milk goats, giggling at innuendo.

ExKiwilass

I've found CBC radio pretty good and the Globe and Mail. I know what you mean though.

Jingsamichty

Canadians are a very docile lot on the whole, and tend to be quite happy to allow people in uniform to tell them what to do. Equally, they tend not to like it when other 'ordinary people' criticize their uniformed services, they take it almost as a personal slight on their judgement. Consequently, it's made much easier for things to be covered up, swept under the carpet... because people don't want to hear it.

Contrast that with the near-constant "hassle" British police forces/border clerks get... they don't like it, but I think ultimately they're all the better for it.

ExKiwilass

FWIW I don't think that's true here ( in Vancouver).

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1998338/

Former Lancastrian

Woah
Where does it say in the article I commented on that they were raped or there were allegations of rape? There are several cases involving the RCMP by former female members and again the story I commented on has no mention of the word rape in it.
Mine was a generilization of lewd conduct, groping, unwanted touching etc definitely not to include rape.
I accept chocolate bars as an apology

mandymoochops

apologies but your comment did come across as a generalisation of 'all' forms of sexual harrassment and rape being the most extreme end of that spectrum.

Unfortunately I am not prey, so the choccie bars stay firmly in my pocket - it's kind of a 'guard it with your life' policy

(that was tongue in cheek btw and am not insinuating that fo one minute you are a border officer predator )

Former Lancastrian

Apparently a lot of my comments on here at times get misconstrued or read in the wrong context and yes sometimes I might appear to convey it that way.
My previous jobs used to be all male dominated (HM Forces, Police and CBSA).
Times are changing and while I dont agree with most of the sexual harrassment stigma in the workforce there is a certain amount of the flirting and innuendos double entardes etc still in the workplace which on the most is harmless enough providing you know your audience.
BTW harrass is still 2 words in my vocabulary

ExKiwilass

I agree.

Oink

They do like their authority figures over here. I was at the meat raffle in our local legion on the weekend and they were fawning all over this scruffy fat bloke with little pudgy hands who turned out to be the president of the hall. I swear I’ve seen him down GI market selling hot chestnuts.

mandymoochops

Me too and tbh things like that are VERY easily misconstrued, so what might be acceptable in one workplace by a group of people would have you hung drawn and quartered in another.

I totally agree with FL when he says "know your audience".

This bloody man / woman thing is a goddam nightmare

Former Lancastrian

Yeah whats with it comments like nice hairstyle, nice shoes or nice dress are widely accepted but nice tits, ass, or you look fit as a butchers dog can get you into trouble

ExKiwilass