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BristolUK Oct 5th 2016 12:12 am

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Originally Posted by Dorothy (Post 12068822)
The international departures area at Perth airport smells like raw sewage. :sick:

Is that better or worse than the cooked variety?

Souvy Oct 5th 2016 3:15 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12068288)
I rest my case

Yes, I would absolutely agree about "bird"- the context used here is describing a very specific group of people who live in Brighton. It is the kind of language that would be used by my dad having watched "Are you being served?". But there again, similar generation..
Derogatory in this context?- Yes of course it was.

I think you are perhaps being a tad over-PC. It`s only offensive if the person at the receiving end finds it offensive.

Almost Canadian Oct 5th 2016 3:20 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12069122)
I think you are perhaps being a tad over-PC. It`s only offensive if the person at the receiving end finds it offensive.

:popcorn:

Teaandtoday5 Oct 5th 2016 3:30 am

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Originally Posted by BristolUK (Post 12068959)
Is that better or worse than the cooked variety?

I am finding you funny too often for you to get more karma so :rofl::rofl::rofl:


Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12069122)
I think you are perhaps being a tad over-PC. It`s only offensive if the person at the receiving end finds it offensive.


Originally Posted by Almost Canadian (Post 12069129)
:popcorn:

Ok I'll bite. That's rubbish. I admit I was surprised by the use of this term. I thought only my Dad still said stuff like that. I hadn't read far enough back in the thread to catch the wings theme, and the sexism of 'bird' but still... Also on a public forum you have no idea who is on the 'receiving end'. Are you seriously saying no words are offensive unless used directly in a name-calling situation?

Stinkypup Oct 5th 2016 3:43 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12069122)
I think you are perhaps being a tad over-PC. It`s only offensive if the person at the receiving end finds it offensive.

"The rule of Souvy" might be acceptable in your little world but I don't think that would be wise to apply on a public forum. Using this rule one could for example be racist but that is ok because it was a general comment and not pointed at anyone specifically who could find your comment offensive.

At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment? I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction but then you chose to continue it. Perhaps not surprising given that you have trivialised the comments.
Feel free to keep digging though, that hole is getting deeper.

Souvy Oct 5th 2016 3:44 am

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12069139)
I am finding you funny too often for you to get more karma so :rofl::rofl::rofl:





Ok I'll bite. That's rubbish. I admit I was surprised by the use of this term. I thought only my Dad still said stuff like that. I hadn't read far enough back in the thread to catch the wings theme, and the sexism of 'bird' but still... Also on a public forum you have no idea who is on the 'receiving end'. Are you seriously saying no words are offensive unless used directly in a name-calling situation?

As I say, offense is taken, not delivered. You cannot offend someone if you use a term that you consider or intend to be offensive and the other party doesn`t. Black people took back the N-word and gay men took back the word queer. Neutralisation.

bats Oct 5th 2016 4:01 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12069155)
As I say, offense is taken, not delivered. You cannot offend someone if you use a term that you consider or intend to be offensive and the other party doesn`t. Black people took back the N-word and gay men took back the word queer. Neutralisation.

Yet you didn't say the N word.

I think Stinky is right and wasn't being over sensitive. Using terms like fairy in a public conversation is wrong, you have to know your audience and that's impossible on a public forum.

BristolUK Oct 5th 2016 4:03 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12069164)
Yet you didn't say the N word...

I was in the middle of trying to post just that when BE had a funny 5 minutes.

dbd33 Oct 5th 2016 4:12 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12069153)
"At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment?

"receiving end" is a phrase that might bear rethinking in this context.

I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.

Stinkypup Oct 5th 2016 4:14 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12069153)
"The rule of Souvy" might be acceptable in your little world but I don't think that would be wise to apply on a public forum. Using this rule one could for example be racist but that is ok because it was a general comment and not pointed at anyone specifically who could find your comment offensive.

At the receiving end? I'm not sure what you mean. You are addressing a public forum... You have made your opinion clear but do you not think other people on the forum might be slightly more enlightened than the pair of you and might actually be offended by the comment? I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction but then you chose to continue it. Perhaps not surprising given that you have trivialised the comments.
Feel free to keep digging though, that hole is getting deeper.


Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12069172)
"receiving end" is a phrase that might bear rethinking in this context.

I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.

Strike out my highlighted comment- make it " than the three of you"

Teaandtoday5 Oct 5th 2016 5:07 am

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Originally Posted by Souvy (Post 12069155)
As I say, offense is taken, not delivered. You cannot offend someone if you use a term that you consider or intend to be offensive and the other party doesn`t. Black people took back the N-word and gay men took back the word queer. Neutralisation.

Assuming (dangerous as I don't know you) that you don't belong to either of those groups, are you seriously suggesting that attempts to reclaim those words make it acceptable for you to use them? As bats has pointed out, clearly you don't. You surely cannot justify the use of derogatory terms by suggesting others might not find them offensive? :huh:

dbd33 Oct 5th 2016 5:13 am

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12069231)
Assuming (dangerous as I don't know you) that you don't belong to either of those groups

Souvy is neither Black nor (primarily, overtly) homosexual.

Teaandtoday5 Oct 5th 2016 5:52 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12069172)
"receiving end" is a phrase that might bear rethinking in this context.

I think suggesting posters are unenlightened is going too far, people banter using terms that fit the flow of the theme, not necessarily the terms they would use on a job posting. As well, this is a forum which might reasonably be thought to be read primarily by Brits and so one would expect more freedom of expression here than one would in a public place in Canada. "Fairy" is not the worst description of a person I expect to see today.

The 'banter' justification has become a bit of a laughable cliche.
Should banter be banned? - BBC News

dbd33 Oct 5th 2016 6:15 am

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Originally Posted by Teaandtoday5 (Post 12069288)
The 'banter' justification has become a bit of a laughable cliche.
Should banter be banned? - BBC News

The banter itself aimed at being laughable cliché. No one uses "fairy" to describe a gay man in earnest; the archaic nature of the expression serves to make the usage camp rather than prejudiced. "Bird" is less defensible but I think the objection to this instance of "fairy" is po-faced and an instance of taking offense on behalf of others who may, or may not, be bothered. We should fetch a gaymo for comment.

Teaandtoday5 Oct 5th 2016 6:25 am

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Originally Posted by dbd33 (Post 12069308)
The banter itself aimed at being laughable cliché. No one uses "fairy" to describe a gay man in earnest; the archaic nature of the expression serves to make the usage camp rather than prejudiced. "Bird" is less defensible but I think the objection to this instance of "fairy" is po-faced and an instance of taking offense on behalf of others who may, or may not, be bothered. We should fetch a gaymo for comment.

The assertion that no-one would use such an expression in earnest I suspect belies the experience of many. It does however confirm my suspicion (not the first time I've thought this) that you are arguing for the sake of it, rather than from any real belief in the points you are making.:sneaky:

It would be great if these things could truly be described as archaic. When my oldest was in primary school I heard one of the mothers call the very suntanned son of her friend a 'darkie'. You would have thought that had died a rightful death in the seventies, but was still being used, with no shame, in this millennium. Sadly some things take longer to die than you would think.

Oink Oct 5th 2016 6:30 am

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I think I'd put this down to, old people say the darndest things. :lol:

Novocastrian Oct 5th 2016 7:34 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12069153)
I chose to say no more once Novacastrian had replied with yet another inappropriate comment in a thread which had clearly for the time being drifted in a more serious direction

So now you're picking on my wife? Woof.

magnumpi Oct 5th 2016 7:39 am

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Bought some new trainers today, 2 1/2 weeks post opp, Rebox without the strands :@) ready for cardio rehab now. (Still have to wait a week n a half) Can walk round our sub division now tho without stopping for air or sitting down to rest: #happywalker

scrubbedexpat091 Oct 5th 2016 7:42 am

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Vintage ads...

Lysol used to be marketed for a very different reason..

Oink Oct 5th 2016 7:44 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12069359)
Bought some new trainers today, 2 1/2 weeks post opp, Rebox without the strands :@) ready for cardio rehab now. (Still have to wait a week n a half) Can walk round our sub division now tho without stopping for air or sitting down to rest: #happywalker


Excellent. You want to get one of those running apps. I have Runtastic and Edmondo which are pretty good, although you have to remember to turn it off if you're popping into the pub on the way home for a couple of cheeky pints. :lol:

bats Oct 5th 2016 7:47 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12069359)
Bought some new trainers today, 2 1/2 weeks post opp, Rebox without the strands :@) ready for cardio rehab now. (Still have to wait a week n a half) Can walk round our sub division now tho without stopping for air or dsitting down to rest: #happywalker

That's good news. Why not take up cycling too? Much more fun and less hard on the joints.

Novocastrian Oct 5th 2016 7:50 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12069369)
That's good news. Why not take up cycling too? Much more fun and less hard on the joints.

Swimming. Swimming is best and cheaper than running shoes or a bike.

Stinkypup Oct 5th 2016 7:52 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12069356)
So now you're picking on my wife? Woof.

Great contribution Prof :thumbup:

Novocastrian Oct 5th 2016 7:52 am

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Originally Posted by Stinkypup (Post 12069376)
Great contribution Prof :thumbup:

Thank you Doc.

magnumpi Oct 5th 2016 7:55 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12069372)
Swimming. Swimming is best and cheaper than running shoes or a bike.

Does seadooing count as swimming?

I am negotiating with a neighbour regarding his bike and already have a stationary bike and treadmill at home for them colder winter months.

Novocastrian Oct 5th 2016 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12069381)
Does seadooing count as swimming?

I am negotiating with a neighbour regarding his bike and already have a stationary bike and treadmill at home for them colder winter months.

How good are you at not falling off?

Oink Oct 5th 2016 8:00 am

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Originally Posted by bats (Post 12069369)
That's good news. Why not take up cycling too? Much more fun and less hard on the joints.


Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12069372)
Swimming. Swimming is best and cheaper than running shoes or a bike.


Biking is okay, but swimming is much less dangerous and really good for you. You can get waterproof bluetooth headphones if you get bored easily.

magnumpi Oct 5th 2016 8:14 am

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Originally Posted by Novocastrian (Post 12069385)
How good are you at not falling off?

I don't fall off, but the wave jumping and fast handling get the pulse going, I used to have to stop n rest after a few mins of wave jumping, just glad I didn't have a heart attack middle of Lake Ontario knowing what I know now :ohmy:

I downloaded the fitness tracker Oink mentioned and I will use it on the bike as swimming isn't my strong point, I can swim back to a Seadoo but I am a crap swimmer. :thumbup:

BristolUK Oct 5th 2016 8:17 am

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12069360)
Vintage ads...

Speaking of which...
http://i3.mirror.co.uk/incoming/arti...st-adverts.jpg

Nine unbelievably sexist advertising campaigns from the 20th century - Mirror Online

:eek:

Novocastrian Oct 5th 2016 8:18 am

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Magnificent!

Siouxie Oct 5th 2016 8:21 am

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Originally Posted by magnumpi (Post 12069359)
Bought some new trainers today, 2 1/2 weeks post opp, Rebox without the strands :@) ready for cardio rehab now. (Still have to wait a week n a half) Can walk round our sub division now tho without stopping for air or sitting down to rest: #happywalker

Most excellent news! After my family member had the quadruple bypass they were encouraged to walk several times a day, starting at 5 minutes and eventually going for an hour. Best thing for you!

Are you having the cardio-rehab at the Y?

BristolUK Oct 5th 2016 8:24 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12069406)
Most excellent...

Yay...Bill and Ted

https://keeprunningcle.files.wordpre...0&h=256&crop=1

Party on....

Siouxie Oct 5th 2016 8:28 am

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35 Extremely Sexist Ads That You Should See

:ohmy:

magnumpi Oct 5th 2016 8:34 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12069406)
Most excellent news! After my family member had the quadruple bypass they were encouraged to walk several times a day, starting at 5 minutes and eventually going for an hour. Best thing for you!

Are you having the cardio-rehab at the Y?

No, they have a rehab class at the Whitby sports centre, it has a full size running track, I could do rehab closer to home but the track is small, they recommended the bigger place.

BristolUK Oct 5th 2016 9:19 am

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Originally Posted by Siouxie (Post 12069419)
...35 Extremely Sexist Ads That You Should See...

I'm going to look through in a minute with a post-supper coffee.

Many moons ago the Guardian used to run a section for sexist ads (called Naked Ape) where people sent in clippings of examples.

A couple I sent in were published and featured in the books they later published of them. Contributors named in the paper but not the books sadly...but I kept my clipping with the book as proof I submitted it. :rofl:

Oink Oct 5th 2016 1:32 pm

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Canadian bartenders are insufferable. I"m sorry you majored in communications or basic studies and now this is the only job you can get. Accept it, and stop telling me your great auntie is from Guilford. I don't care, I just want to watch the baseball.

caretaker Oct 5th 2016 1:39 pm

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Originally Posted by Oink (Post 12069562)
Canadian bartenders are insufferable.

Rash generalisation.

Oink Oct 5th 2016 1:43 pm

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Originally Posted by caretaker (Post 12069564)
Rash generalisation.

Yeah, sorry about that.
I meant most of the ones who work in Vancouver and are seemly oblivious to the Mets playing a one off wildcard game and are trying to talk to me.

scrubbedexpat091 Oct 5th 2016 2:02 pm

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A guy in Vancouver apparently was randomly shot in the hand on the way home from early in the early morning.

Police investigate random shooting in East Vancouver - BC | Globalnews.ca

Stinkypup Oct 5th 2016 2:06 pm

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Originally Posted by Jsmth321 (Post 12069570)
A guy in Vancouver apparently was randomly shot in the hand on the way home from early in the early morning.

Police investigate random shooting in East Vancouver - BC | Globalnews.ca

Well spotted :thumbup:


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