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Old Jan 16th 2020, 12:07 pm
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I was uneasy of her from the start because she is an actress, and not a I’m an actress for the love of acting type, more like a I’ll do any job going because I want to be famous type. I thought I’d give her a chance but the way she has behaved since has only reaffirmed my initial gut feeling. She seems to have a habit of using people until she’s got what she wanted then drops them when they are no longer useful.

I honestly don’t think she would’ve given Harry a second look if he wasn’t a prince.

I don’t really care what they do but they are really taking the p out of everyone by expecting to be able to keep the perks of being a Royal without doing the job. They shouldn’t be allowed to profiteer off the titles, use taxpayer money, or have the freedom to plonk themselves in any country they feel is worthy of them. They need to make their own way and not ride off of the Queen’s coattails.
Well said....and lets be honest "Suits" is pretty low brow fluff and is basically Melrose Place with power suits....
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Originally Posted by confused_uk
I was uneasy of her from the start because she is an actress, and not a I’m an actress for the love of acting type, more like a I’ll do any job going because I want to be famous type. I thought I’d give her a chance but the way she has behaved since has only reaffirmed my initial gut feeling. She seems to have a habit of using people until she’s got what she wanted then drops them when they are no longer useful.

I honestly don’t think she would’ve given Harry a second look if he wasn’t a prince.

I don’t really care what they do but they are really taking the p out of everyone by expecting to be able to keep the perks of being a Royal without doing the job. They shouldn’t be allowed to profiteer off the titles, use taxpayer money, or have the freedom to plonk themselves in any country they feel is worthy of them. They need to make their own way and not ride off of the Queen’s coattails.
This exactly how I see it!! I was also uneasy about her from the start.....but gave her the benefit of the doubt.....but everything thats occured confirmed what I thought...she has a very high opinion of herself, but in reality is a very average run of the mill actress that is on a social climbing mission.....I've met her type dozens of times, and to make it worse she is a diva to boot....with nothing to back up her self imposed diva status!

If they make their own way from here on I shall reassess my opinion.....but I feel doubtful of it....the words eat and cake spring immediately to mind....



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I was uneasy of her from the start because she is an actress, and not a I’m an actress for the love of acting type, more like a I’ll do any job going because I want to be famous type. I thought I’d give her a chance but the way she has behaved since has only reaffirmed my initial gut feeling. She seems to have a habit of using people until she’s got what she wanted then drops them when they are no longer useful.

I honestly don’t think she would’ve given Harry a second look if he wasn’t a prince.

I don’t really care what they do but they are really taking the p out of everyone by expecting to be able to keep the perks of being a Royal without doing the job. They shouldn’t be allowed to profiteer off the titles, use taxpayer money, or have the freedom to plonk themselves in any country they feel is worthy of them. They need to make their own way and not ride off of the Queen’s coattails.
wholeheartedly agree.
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Old Jan 16th 2020, 3:14 pm
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I was uneasy of her from the start because she is an actress, and not a I’m an actress for the love of acting type, more like a I’ll do any job going because I want to be famous type. I thought I’d give her a chance but the way she has behaved since has only reaffirmed my initial gut feeling. She seems to have a habit of using people until she’s got what she wanted then drops them when they are no longer useful.

I honestly don’t think she would’ve given Harry a second look if he wasn’t a prince.

I don’t really care what they do but they are really taking the p out of everyone by expecting to be able to keep the perks of being a Royal without doing the job. They shouldn’t be allowed to profiteer off the titles, use taxpayer money, or have the freedom to plonk themselves in any country they feel is worthy of them. They need to make their own way and not ride off of the Queen’s coattails.
I didn't like her from the beginning too, because so much of it seemed like she was acting the part, however bottom line is it should be "all or nothing" with being royalty, not picking the good bits. If they want to be royalty they need to do the job properly, otherwise become commoners and support themselves like everyone else.
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Originally Posted by confused_uk
I was uneasy of her from the start because she is an actress, and not a I’m an actress for the love of acting type, more like a I’ll do any job going because I want to be famous type. I thought I’d give her a chance but the way she has behaved since has only reaffirmed my initial gut feeling. She seems to have a habit of using people until she’s got what she wanted then drops them when they are no longer useful.

I honestly don’t think she would’ve given Harry a second look if he wasn’t a prince.

I don’t really care what they do but they are really taking the p out of everyone by expecting to be able to keep the perks of being a Royal without doing the job. They shouldn’t be allowed to profiteer off the titles, use taxpayer money, or have the freedom to plonk themselves in any country they feel is worthy of them. They need to make their own way and not ride off of the Queen’s coattails.
Your username seems increasingly apt. There's a lot of confusion here...

There's clearly a lack of understanding of how the film and TV industry works with "talent." Actors trying to break in to Hollywood - whatever their motivation, whether it's for "the craft" or in pursuit of fame and fortune - have to take small parts in whatever productions are offered, in order to be seen by producers and casting directors so that they're more likely to get the next, larger, part. I'm no apologist for Meghan, or for the Royal Family come to that, but your criticism of her choice of career seems bizarre.

I'd be interested to understand how your initial gut feeling (initial from when, by the way? Were you an avid follower of Ms Markle's career before she came to the public eye through her relationship with Harry?) has been reaffirmed. Which people has she used and dropped? What is it that she wants, that in your opinion she presumably has now got? How do you know that's what she wants?

On what basis do you form your view that she wouldn't have given Harry a second look if he wasn't a prince? Are you a confidant of hers, that you have this remarkable insight into the innermost thoughts concerning her emotions and motives for attachment? If so, you should really write a book about it, it'd sell millions.

Your last paragraph is where it the confusion seems to really derail your argument. You want them to make their own way, yet don't want them to have the freedom to decide where to live? If they're not able to separate themselves physically from the baying pack of tabloid journalists, how is it that you expect them to be able to work for a living and not "ride off of the Queen's coattails." There's a cake: you can have it, or you can eat it, but you can't do both.
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I didn't like her from the beginning too, because so much of it seemed like she was acting the part, however bottom line is it should be "all or nothing" with being royalty, not picking the good bits. If they want to be royalty they need to do the job properly, otherwise become commoners and support themselves like everyone else.
Spot on. I think she thought it was an easy pass to fame and fortune marrying a British prince.... you misjudged that one Meg....so now its make you mind up time.


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It was ‘the family she has never had’ during their engagement interview that did it for me. Warning bells went off straight away. I knew then that she had Harry exactly where she wanted him.

Although she’s a D list actress, she has been playing the part of her life for the last 3+ years. The way she constantly gazes at him, all for the cameras, it is so false. Once an actress always an actress.

Now has the fame and platform she wanted, she will have little use for Harry.
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What are these blaring headlines? I'm not a tabloid reader so the only one I am aware of was the intital much reported "Straight Outta Compton" one. In any case, I don't think race enters the equation of Megan dislike, I think it's more a mixture of "evil woman myth" and the fact that she's American. Saw an interview of a senior Sun journo absolutely lamenting what Megan had "done" to noble Harry, and found his protestations pathetic beyond measure. Royalist Britain appears to have lost some perspective the value and relevance of monarchy.
Of course you are correct about the race aspect, any reasonable person would share that view. The daily mail article states that her mother and aunt lived in Crenshaw and Inglewood at the time. The film Boyz N the Hood is set in those areas with Compton featuring as well. It’s not unreasonable to reference these. If the wife’s mother instead had lived in say Middlesbrough or Glasgow there would have been references to drugs, crime, gangs, deprivation etc to contrast with the privilege of Harry’s background whatever the ethnicity. If the wife was Australian they would have been looking for a convict transported there in the ancestry to put in an article.
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I didn't like her from the beginning too, because so much of it seemed like she was acting the part, however bottom line is it should be "all or nothing" with being royalty, not picking the good bits. If they want to be royalty they need to do the job properly, otherwise become commoners and support themselves like everyone else.
I don't think this is the case. Harry's what, sixth in line to the throne? It's exceedingly unlikely that the five people above him will all predecease him; if I cared enough for it to bother me I don't think there's anything intrinsically wrong with his desire to step back from "front line" royal duties. As the younger son of the heir, his place is much more like that of, say, Anne, or Edward (let's ignore Andrew, he's just a nightmare all to himself). Sure, be the patron of a few charities. Maybe be the colonel-in-chief of a regiment or two. Get trotted out for the big set-piece occasions of pomp and pageantry. But other than that, keep yourself to yourself. I can imagine that his kid will end up in much the same position as Peter and Zara Phillips, who are figureheads and patrons for causes they choose to support, but play no other active role in the life of the royal family. I'd be unsurprised if Harry and Meghan decide that he should continue not to have any formal title or HRH or any of that stuff.
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Your username seems increasingly apt. There's a lot of confusion here...

There's clearly a lack of understanding of how the film and TV industry works with "talent." Actors trying to break in to Hollywood - whatever their motivation, whether it's for "the craft" or in pursuit of fame and fortune - have to take small parts in whatever productions are offered, in order to be seen by producers and casting directors so that they're more likely to get the next, larger, part. I'm no apologist for Meghan, or for the Royal Family come to that, but your criticism of her choice of career seems bizarre.

I'd be interested to understand how your initial gut feeling (initial from when, by the way? Were you an avid follower of Ms Markle's career before she came to the public eye through her relationship with Harry?) has been reaffirmed. Which people has she used and dropped? What is it that she wants, that in your opinion she presumably has now got? How do you know that's what she wants?

On what basis do you form your view that she wouldn't have given Harry a second look if he wasn't a prince? Are you a confidant of hers, that you have this remarkable insight into the innermost thoughts concerning her emotions and motives for attachment? If so, you should really write a book about it, it'd sell millions.

Your last paragraph is where it the confusion seems to really derail your argument. You want them to make their own way, yet don't want them to have the freedom to decide where to live? If they're not able to separate themselves physically from the baying pack of tabloid journalists, how is it that you expect them to be able to work for a living and not "ride off of the Queen's coattails." There's a cake: you can have it, or you can eat it, but you can't do both.
Oh look a second insult towards me, have you nothing better to do? Or are just a huge Markle fan intent on defending her honour.

I’m fully aware I don’t know her or her intentions but I have met similar toxic people in my life and can recognize the traits, good for you if everyone in your life has been perfect so you don’t see it. I would also like to point out you don’t know her either so aren’t exactly in a position to tell me I’m wrong.

You clearly don’t understand my last paragraph, yes they can have the freedom to live where they like but they should have to go through the same process to live there like anyone else would. They shouldn’t get the red carpet rolled out because of royalty connections. Like someone else said they want to pick and choose the best bits that suit them and dump the dull responsibilities they don’t like.

Im not even going to respond to you anymore because I don’t have to justify my opinion to you and I’m not going to give you more ammunition to insult me.

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Your username seems increasingly apt. There's a lot of confusion here...

There's clearly a lack of understanding of how the film and TV industry works with "talent." Actors trying to break in to Hollywood - whatever their motivation, whether it's for "the craft" or in pursuit of fame and fortune - have to take small parts in whatever productions are offered, in order to be seen by producers and casting directors so that they're more likely to get the next, larger, part. I'm no apologist for Meghan, or for the Royal Family come to that, but your criticism of her choice of career seems bizarre.

I'd be interested to understand how your initial gut feeling (initial from when, by the way? Were you an avid follower of Ms Markle's career before she came to the public eye through her relationship with Harry?) has been reaffirmed. Which people has she used and dropped? What is it that she wants, that in your opinion she presumably has now got? How do you know that's what she wants?

On what basis do you form your view that she wouldn't have given Harry a second look if he wasn't a prince? Are you a confidant of hers, that you have this remarkable insight into the innermost thoughts concerning her emotions and motives for attachment? If so, you should really write a book about it, it'd sell millions.

Your last paragraph is where it the confusion seems to really derail your argument. You want them to make their own way, yet don't want them to have the freedom to decide where to live? If they're not able to separate themselves physically from the baying pack of tabloid journalists, how is it that you expect them to be able to work for a living and not "ride off of the Queen's coattails." There's a cake: you can have it, or you can eat it, but you can't do both.

Kate has done it, she had bad press at first, she came through it....but then she was serious about what she wanted from day one, she knew what she was signing up for....Meg just wanted the fame and glamour and carry on living a normal life alongside. It doesn't work that way Meg.
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It was ‘the family she has never had’ during their engagement interview that did it for me. Warning bells went off straight away. I knew then that she had Harry exactly where she wanted him.

Although she’s a D list actress, she has been playing the part of her life for the last 3+ years. The way she constantly gazes at him, all for the cameras, it is so false. Once an actress always an actress.

Now has the fame and platform she wanted, she will have little use for Harry.
Another good post. Right on the mark!
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It was ‘the family she has never had’ during their engagement interview that did it for me. Warning bells went off straight away. I knew then that she had Harry exactly where she wanted him.

Although she’s a D list actress, she has been playing the part of her life for the last 3+ years. The way she constantly gazes at him, all for the cameras, it is so false. Once an actress always an actress.

Now has the fame and platform she wanted, she will have little use for Harry.
Wow, now that would be very sad.
It is possible. You could be right. Most of her relationships with family and a past marraige are unstable or broken.
He moves country for her, leaves family and heritage and home. She dumps him?
I don't want to even think it.
Witchly wicked that is.

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