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+1 to what Oakvillian said. & it's a pain in the neck when one is referred to a regional office :(.

I'm somewhat glad I'm no longer involved in organising fundraising activities at ground level.

S

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Charities is at the top of my 'what annoys me the most' followed by taxes.

IMO, charities are make work projects that siphon off (feed ourselves first) management & consulting fees, overhead, marketing etc with little to zero going to the real purpose. The Government of Canada charities website provides the financials on each one of them & did you know most charities get funded by the Federal & Provincial governments.

OK, back to the ;Poppy' does anyone know where they are made? My guess is some hole in the wall offshore sweat factory.

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If you're talking about the United Way then, yes, of course. And they depend on coercion in the workplace. A disgusting organisation, wouldn't give them the steam.

However, that's not all charities. It's hard to fault the financial efficiency of, for example, the Salvation Army.

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you are winding me up aren't you?

All charities have the same insider abuse - take a look at the charities website financials .. for the 'SallyAnn' its just another business

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/s...=1#pageControl

REGISTERED Charity's Return - Quick View

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You do realise, don't you, that the page you linked to is for the national governing council of the Salvation Army? That the bulk of the administration expenses (not least the costs of compliance with CRA rules and regulations for charities) are paid from this pot? That the 48% of expenditures that go to "other charitable organizations" almost all is to local Sally Ann ministries, who provide food banks, emergency shelters, soup kitchens and the like for homeless people? That most of the local organizations (linked in your edited post) are spending more than 80% of total revenues directly on community initiatives?

Where, exactly, is your beef? Do you regularly set up your own soup kitchen and provide direct support to those less fortunate than yourself? If not, then might I suggest that an organization like the Salvation Army would probably welcome support in kind from people such as yourself who are too concerned with mythical corruption to donate actual money? Why not find a local goodwill store, shelter or food bank run by the Sally Ann and volunteer your services?

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Tosh in other countries. Poppy Day is a farce or nonsense in Italy. There is nothing like a gigantuam poppy day. They have rememberance day and their little local festivals, people remember and celebrate. Poppies? Not really. Any flower really. If I suddenly started wearing a UK style poppy (which I would do if I only had one) I know folks would ask why.

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I think there was an incident in the UK last week where someone in their 80s collecting was told he had to stand outside in the rain and the store manager remarked to a customer who complained that he should bring a coat next time. It might not have been quite that simple but there was an apology and donation.

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yes I understand all of that

my beef is charities - all of them, which are a business that feeds themselves first as a make work project & that government funds a large part. Charities would have the common folk believe every cent of every dollar of money going to the charity is spent on charitable causes.

The Fed & Provincial government for its part funds charities - that money comes from the taxpaying public. Therefore all of us give to every charity in Canada through our taxes, so why is there a need to give more. Because its a make work project

For Oakville SallyAnn community church

REGISTERED Charity's Return - Quick View

I'm wasting my time on this, so forgive me at taking a shot at charities, its just my personal beef

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I am just against the bullying that seems to go on this time of year. Nobody should ever feel compelled to donate or support a charity of any sort which is the issue I have. I understand the legion does good stuff, and one should respect others, however those who choose not to participate should not be bullied into participating.

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Chugging is certainly annoying and won't get anywhere with me.

Poppies, Salvation Army, Guides, Scouts all ok to me. Precocious youth hockey players at the exit to Canadian Tire not so much.

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I think this is one reason why the expression "non governmental organization" has some traction, it is clearer about what they are, although the governmental funding confuses things still.

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My assertion is that, for domestic causes, donating to the Salvation Army is the most efficient use of money. Less money is used for administration by that charity than others. If you know of a more efficient charity do tell us about it; at the moment you seem to be saying "they pay people, they heat their buildings, I'll not give them anything, I'll keep it all for me". Fat lot of good that is to the poor and hungry.

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Poppies are made at the Poppy Factory in Richmond London which employs 40 mainly disabled people. Think there may be a factory in Scotland as well.
May be a "hole in the wall onshore sweat factory" but I doubt it ;).

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Unless they have changed the contract, as of 2011 the Canadian Poppies are made in Canada by a Ontario company.

The poppy makers | Woodstock Sentinel Review

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The phrase "pie in the sky" is about the salvation army. Something to do with them looking for converts rather than actually wanting to help.