PM Boris
Oct 28th 2019, 5:23 pm
#841
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Re: PM Boris
The current proposition is that the Johnson clique is pushing a no-deal Brexit in the full knowledge that it'll cripple the UK economy but they're apparently content with this because they're wealthy and they'll be able to sustain any impact on their wealth because they're all using their hedge fund mates to bet on this outcome and clean up afterwards.
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The proposition itself is ludicrous when you stand back, study it, and ask yourself the question, 'Why, when the government has no control over what happens, would Johnson et al bet the farm on anything, especially a no-deal?'
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The proposition itself is ludicrous when you stand back, study it, and ask yourself the question, 'Why, when the government has no control over what happens, would Johnson et al bet the farm on anything, especially a no-deal?'
Oct 28th 2019, 7:13 pm
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Re: PM Boris
Oct 28th 2019, 9:38 pm
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I'm afraid that's the nature of the beast. Especially politicians, Blair for example was prepared to take his country to war by spreading lies to ensure his legacy, and journalists on all colours selectively cherry pick information to promote their personal agenda. Let the reader beware.
Pure speculation without evidence. As I've said, it might be true, but you're playing the Journalist Johnson game by supporting rumour simply because you'd like it to be true.
Pure speculation without evidence. As I've said, it might be true, but you're playing the Journalist Johnson game by supporting rumour simply because you'd like it to be true.
Oct 28th 2019, 11:18 pm
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Re: PM Boris
Originally Posted by Boris
“Later on this evening, the government will give notice for the presentation a short bill an election on 12 December so we can finally get Brexit done. The house cannot any longer keep this country hostage … Now that no deal is off the table, we have a great new deal. It’s time to put that to the
voters.”
voters.”
Oct 29th 2019, 8:24 pm
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Re: PM Boris
It appears that Boris will have his election on 12 December, but the Lords might yet throw their teddy out of the pram.
I did find it strange that a bid to get an election under the Fixed Term Parliament Act requires a two thirds majority but this can be readily set aside by the simple expedient of passing a short bill requiring only a simple majority. So what was the point of requiring two thirds in the first place?
I did find it strange that a bid to get an election under the Fixed Term Parliament Act requires a two thirds majority but this can be readily set aside by the simple expedient of passing a short bill requiring only a simple majority. So what was the point of requiring two thirds in the first place?
Oct 30th 2019, 12:48 am
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Re: PM Boris
It appears that Boris will have his election on 12 December, but the Lords might yet throw their teddy out of the pram.
I did find it strange that a bid to get an election under the Fixed Term Parliament Act requires a two thirds majority but this can be readily set aside by the simple expedient of passing a short bill requiring only a simple majority. So what was the point of requiring two thirds in the first place?
I did find it strange that a bid to get an election under the Fixed Term Parliament Act requires a two thirds majority but this can be readily set aside by the simple expedient of passing a short bill requiring only a simple majority. So what was the point of requiring two thirds in the first place?
Oct 30th 2019, 1:54 am
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Oct 30th 2019, 2:32 pm
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Re: PM Boris
The thing is that the act that fianlly suceeded CAN be amended by anyone getting a majority, and the vote regarding the fixed Parlaiment act can't, so far there have been several attempts to amend it, and it still has to pass the House of Lords, where it can also be amended.
Oct 31st 2019, 8:38 pm
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Re: PM Boris
In true Boris style of hippocracy and bs he is going to campaign on undoing all the things that his party has been inflicting on the country over the last 9 years. I really hope that the British voting public see him for what he is.
Oct 31st 2019, 8:41 pm
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They do not. At least half do not. They see him as the guy who will get Brexit done and then shake the money tree for a golden future.
Oct 31st 2019, 8:57 pm
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Re: PM Boris
The problem that I have with him is that it doesn't matter what his policies are and whether or not you can agree with them. It is that he has been proven time and time again to be a complete and utter liar. Barefaced and blatant. When pressed on this he just lies all the more. His political career being dead in a ditch would be a good thing. I am genuinely at a complete loss as to why anyone would support him.
Oct 31st 2019, 9:18 pm
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Re: PM Boris
What was it that Thatcher said?
Oh yeah... 'There is no alternative'
Whilst there are others out there straining at the leash, they've all shown themselves unable to put anything above their personal wants.. Parliament's shown itself to be like a three year old at dinner.. 'Whaaahhh don't want that!'
The public are fed up to the back teeth with it, like they are with the EU.
ps.
What happened to those rumours about JRM et al and the hedge fund - no deal conspiracy. All gone a bit quiet hasn't it.
Oh yeah... 'There is no alternative'
Whilst there are others out there straining at the leash, they've all shown themselves unable to put anything above their personal wants.. Parliament's shown itself to be like a three year old at dinner.. 'Whaaahhh don't want that!'
The public are fed up to the back teeth with it, like they are with the EU.
ps.
What happened to those rumours about JRM et al and the hedge fund - no deal conspiracy. All gone a bit quiet hasn't it.
Oct 31st 2019, 9:19 pm
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Re: PM Boris
He went to Addenbrooks Hospital in Cambridge, who were promised extra money in his '40 new hospitals' deal, he met carefully selected people and visited areas which were carefully screened and vetted. However he had to walk out past staff and visitors, he was greeted with a chorus of boos, so much that his bodyguards hurried him past and out the door.
Oct 31st 2019, 9:31 pm
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Re: PM Boris
What was it that Thatcher said?
Oh yeah... 'There is no alternative'
Whilst there are others out there straining at the leash, they've all shown themselves unable to put anything above their personal wants.. Parliament's shown itself to be like a three year old at dinner.. 'Whaaahhh don't want that!'
The public are fed up to the back teeth with it, like they are with the EU.
ps.
What happened to those rumours about JRM et al and the hedge fund - no deal conspiracy. All gone a bit quiet hasn't it.
Oh yeah... 'There is no alternative'
Whilst there are others out there straining at the leash, they've all shown themselves unable to put anything above their personal wants.. Parliament's shown itself to be like a three year old at dinner.. 'Whaaahhh don't want that!'
The public are fed up to the back teeth with it, like they are with the EU.
ps.
What happened to those rumours about JRM et al and the hedge fund - no deal conspiracy. All gone a bit quiet hasn't it.
Parliament actually doing exactly what it is designed to do is acting like a 3 year old at dinner?
give your head a wobble mate.
Oct 31st 2019, 9:42 pm
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